date:20121205

I seem to have lost my links to deployment resources from WOnder frameworks, 
like so:

/WebObjects/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/datepicker.css

Is this because of apache rules or something, or do I actually need to install 
new frameworks and resources on my old AWS server?

I'm uncertain when this error started and was looking through deployment docs

http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deployment

but didn't really find anything that rang a bell.

thoughts on that?



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Re: deployment resources -?

2012-12-05 Thread programmingosx

Have you set the -server flag in deployment recently? If so, you'll need to 
specify your frameworks URL in properties.

WOFrameworksBaseURL=/Webobjects/Application_v14.woa/Frameworks

David


On 2012-12-05, at 8:34 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:

 I seem to have lost my links to deployment resources from WOnder frameworks, 
 like so:
 
 /WebObjects/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/datepicker.css
 
 Is this because of apache rules or something, or do I actually need to 
 install new frameworks and resources on my old AWS server?
 
 I'm uncertain when this error started and was looking through deployment docs
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deployment
 
 but didn't really find anything that rang a bell.
 
 thoughts on that?
 
 
 
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Re: deployment resources -?

Thanks David -

let me see if I understand -

do I even have a -server or WOFrameworksBaseURL in my properties? no. but I'd 
suppose I never have?

also, where's this actually pointing on the server?

 Webobjects/Application_v14.woa/Frameworks

into my app wrapper ? the .woa ?

of course, I'm using the embedded deployment but I was kinda looking for 
something outside the app?


On Dec 5, 2012, at 12:23 PM, programming...@mac.com wrote:

 Have you set the -server flag in deployment recently? If so, you'll need to 
 specify your frameworks URL in properties.
 
 WOFrameworksBaseURL=/Webobjects/Application_v14.woa/Frameworks
 
 David
 
 
 On 2012-12-05, at 8:34 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:
 
 I seem to have lost my links to deployment resources from WOnder frameworks, 
 like so:
 
 /WebObjects/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/datepicker.css
 
 Is this because of apache rules or something, or do I actually need to 
 install new frameworks and resources on my old AWS server?
 
 I'm uncertain when this error started and was looking through deployment docs
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deployment
 
 but didn't really find anything that rang a bell.
 
 thoughts on that?
 
 
 
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Re: deployment resources -?


Le 2012-12-05 à 12:23, programming...@mac.com a écrit :

 Have you set the -server flag in deployment recently? If so, you'll need to 
 specify your frameworks URL in properties.
 
 WOFrameworksBaseURL=/Webobjects/Application_v14.woa/Frameworks

That should be set in the script that launch the application when you build 
with Ant:

  echo ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS} -WOFrameworksBaseURL 
/WebObjects/MyApplication.woa/Frameworks

  eval exec ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath 
WOBootstrap.jar com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS} 
-WOFrameworksBaseURL /WebObjects/MyApplication.woa/Frameworks

So you shouldn't need to add the property in JavaMonitor or anywhere else 
unless your build was done years ago. I think Maven builds don't have that by 
default.

 David
 
 
 On 2012-12-05, at 8:34 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:
 
 I seem to have lost my links to deployment resources from WOnder frameworks, 
 like so:
 
 /WebObjects/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/datepicker.css
 
 Is this because of apache rules or something, or do I actually need to 
 install new frameworks and resources on my old AWS server?
 
 I'm uncertain when this error started and was looking through deployment docs
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deployment
 
 but didn't really find anything that rang a bell.
 
 thoughts on that?
 
 
 
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Re: deployment resources -?


Le 2012-12-05 à 12:43, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com a écrit :

 Thanks David -
 
 let me see if I understand -
 
 do I even have a -server or WOFrameworksBaseURL in my properties? no. but I'd 
 suppose I never have?
 
 also, where's this actually pointing on the server?
 
 Webobjects/Application_v14.woa/Frameworks
 
 into my app wrapper ? the .woa ?
 
 of course, I'm using the embedded deployment but I was kinda looking for 
 something outside the app?

I'm lost here… So your Web resources links right now are 
/WebObjects/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework and you want to switch 
them to /WebObjects/MyApp.woa/Frameworks, or it's the other way around. What is 
the problem you are facing?

 
 On Dec 5, 2012, at 12:23 PM, programming...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Have you set the -server flag in deployment recently? If so, you'll need to 
 specify your frameworks URL in properties.
 
 WOFrameworksBaseURL=/Webobjects/Application_v14.woa/Frameworks
 
 David
 
 
 On 2012-12-05, at 8:34 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:
 
 I seem to have lost my links to deployment resources from WOnder 
 frameworks, like so:
 
 /WebObjects/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/datepicker.css
 
 Is this because of apache rules or something, or do I actually need to 
 install new frameworks and resources on my old AWS server?
 
 I'm uncertain when this error started and was looking through deployment 
 docs
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deployment
 
 but didn't really find anything that rang a bell.
 
 thoughts on that?
 
 
 
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Re: deployment resources -?


Ok, from the top -

I am troubleshooting a small variety of deployment issues that popped up around 
the time I changed developer machines, the server stuff has been working a few 
years without much change which I found odd.

At this moment, the app is operating and connecting to the database etc., but 
it looks bad -- so, you notice links like:

https://ec.planaby.com/WebObjects/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/datepicker.css

don't work, eh? error 404 so - I figured I didn't install my webserverresources 
properly but they seem normal and then I wondered where that file should be 
residing or why it got moved or if it were apache configurations or something 
else entirely.

any idea what I'm missing here?

thanks!


On Dec 5, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:

 
 Le 2012-12-05 à 12:23, programming...@mac.com a écrit :
 
 Have you set the -server flag in deployment recently? If so, you'll need to 
 specify your frameworks URL in properties.
 
 WOFrameworksBaseURL=/Webobjects/Application_v14.woa/Frameworks
 
 That should be set in the script that launch the application when you build 
 with Ant:
 
  echo ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
 com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS} 
 -WOFrameworksBaseURL /WebObjects/MyApplication.woa/Frameworks
 
  eval exec ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath 
 WOBootstrap.jar com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS} 
 -WOFrameworksBaseURL /WebObjects/MyApplication.woa/Frameworks
 
 So you shouldn't need to add the property in JavaMonitor or anywhere else 
 unless your build was done years ago. I think Maven builds don't have that by 
 default.
 
 David
 
 
 On 2012-12-05, at 8:34 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:
 
 I seem to have lost my links to deployment resources from WOnder 
 frameworks, like so:
 
 /WebObjects/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/datepicker.css
 
 Is this because of apache rules or something, or do I actually need to 
 install new frameworks and resources on my old AWS server?
 
 I'm uncertain when this error started and was looking through deployment 
 docs
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deployment
 
 but didn't really find anything that rang a bell.
 
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Re: deployment resources -?


Le 2012-12-05 à 13:01, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com a écrit :

 
 Ok, from the top -
 
 I am troubleshooting a small variety of deployment issues that popped up 
 around the time I changed developer machines, the server stuff has been 
 working a few years without much change which I found odd.
 
 At this moment, the app is operating and connecting to the database etc., but 
 it looks bad -- so, you notice links like:
 
 https://ec.planaby.com/WebObjects/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/datepicker.css
 
 don't work, eh? error 404 so - I figured I didn't install my 
 webserverresources properly but they seem normal and then I wondered where 
 that file should be residing or why it got moved or if it were apache 
 configurations or something else entirely.
 
 any idea what I'm missing here?

What's missing is the WOFrameworksBaseURL in the application script if you are 
embedding frameworks (system and local). What is the two last lines in the 
application script (MyApplication.woa/MyApplication) ?

 thanks!
 
 
 On Dec 5, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 
 Le 2012-12-05 à 12:23, programming...@mac.com a écrit :
 
 Have you set the -server flag in deployment recently? If so, you'll need to 
 specify your frameworks URL in properties.
 
 WOFrameworksBaseURL=/Webobjects/Application_v14.woa/Frameworks
 
 That should be set in the script that launch the application when you build 
 with Ant:
 
 echo ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
 com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS} 
 -WOFrameworksBaseURL /WebObjects/MyApplication.woa/Frameworks
 
 eval exec ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath 
 WOBootstrap.jar com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS} 
 -WOFrameworksBaseURL /WebObjects/MyApplication.woa/Frameworks
 
 So you shouldn't need to add the property in JavaMonitor or anywhere else 
 unless your build was done years ago. I think Maven builds don't have that 
 by default.
 
 David
 
 
 On 2012-12-05, at 8:34 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:
 
 I seem to have lost my links to deployment resources from WOnder 
 frameworks, like so:
 
 /WebObjects/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/datepicker.css
 
 Is this because of apache rules or something, or do I actually need to 
 install new frameworks and resources on my old AWS server?
 
 I'm uncertain when this error started and was looking through deployment 
 docs
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deployment
 
 but didn't really find anything that rang a bell.
 
 thoughts on that?
 
 
 
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Re: deployment resources -?

2012-12-05 Thread Bastian Triller

There's also a parameter in build.xml, which sets the JVM Option field in
{mac,unix}classpath.txt, which is added to the command line options. But i
cannot remember it ...
Am 05.12.2012 18:51 schrieb Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca:


 Le 2012-12-05 à 12:23, programming...@mac.com a écrit :

  Have you set the -server flag in deployment recently? If so, you'll need
 to specify your frameworks URL in properties.
 
  WOFrameworksBaseURL=/Webobjects/Application_v14.woa/Frameworks

 That should be set in the script that launch the application when you
 build with Ant:

   echo ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath
 WOBootstrap.jar com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}
 -WOFrameworksBaseURL /WebObjects/MyApplication.woa/Frameworks

   eval exec ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath
 WOBootstrap.jar com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}
 -WOFrameworksBaseURL /WebObjects/MyApplication.woa/Frameworks

 So you shouldn't need to add the property in JavaMonitor or anywhere else
 unless your build was done years ago. I think Maven builds don't have that
 by default.

  David
 
 
  On 2012-12-05, at 8:34 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:
 
  I seem to have lost my links to deployment resources from WOnder
 frameworks, like so:
 
 
 /WebObjects/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/datepicker.css
 
  Is this because of apache rules or something, or do I actually need to
 install new frameworks and resources on my old AWS server?
 
  I'm uncertain when this error started and was looking through
 deployment docs
 
  http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deployment
 
  but didn't really find anything that rang a bell.
 
  thoughts on that?
 
 
 
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Re: deployment resources -?


On Dec 5, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:

 What's missing is the WOFrameworksBaseURL in the application script if you 
 are embedding frameworks (system and local). What is the two last lines in 
 the application script (MyApplication.woa/MyApplication) ?

I'm uncertain which script you mean? The WOMan.woa/WOMan would be the binary, 
no? in my developer system, I have no references to to that WOFrameworksBaseURL 
but --

Could this by my own linking?

I see in my PageWrapper a link like so:

link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=screen 
href=/WebObjects/WOMan.woa/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/default_screen_stylesheet.css/


Should that href really be set with a direct path like that? Or did I just hard 
code that at some point I've forgotten of?

I didn't quite realize this link was a call from my own PageWrapper and not 
something embedded.

Maybe I just need to get my href's properly aligned with my deployment strategy 
there somehow?



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Re: deployment resources -?

Le 2012-12-05 à 13:34, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com a écrit :

On Dec 5, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:

What's missing is the WOFrameworksBaseURL in the application script if you
are embedding frameworks (system and local). What is the two last lines in
the application script (MyApplication.woa/MyApplication) ?

I'm uncertain which script you mean? The WOMan.woa/WOMan would be the binary,
no?

Have you looked at it? It's a shell script...

in my developer system, I have no references to to that WOFrameworksBaseURL
but --

Could this by my own linking?

I see in my PageWrapper a link like so:

link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=screen
href=/WebObjects/WOMan.woa/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/default_screen_stylesheet.css/

So the problem is there.

Should that href really be set with a direct path like that? Or did I just
hard code that at some point I've forgotten of?

No, you should use WOResourceManager or other components like ERXStyleSheet
filename=default_screen_stylesheet.css framework=ERModernDefaultSkin /

I didn't quite realize this link was a call from my own PageWrapper and not
something embedded.

Maybe I just need to get my href's properly aligned with my deployment
strategy there somehow?

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Re: deployment resources -?

Thanks Pascal!

thats starting to look better for sure --

On Dec 5, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:

Le 2012-12-05 à 13:34, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com a écrit :

On Dec 5, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:

I'm uncertain which script you mean? The WOMan.woa/WOMan would be the
binary, no?

Have you looked at it? It's a shell script...

in my developer system, I have no references to to that WOFrameworksBaseURL
but --

Could this by my own linking?

I see in my PageWrapper a link like so:

link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=screen
href=/WebObjects/WOMan.woa/Frameworks/ERModernDefaultSkin.framework/WebServerResources/default_screen_stylesheet.css/

So the problem is there.

Should that href really be set with a direct path like that? Or did I just
hard code that at some point I've forgotten of?

No, you should use WOResourceManager or other components like ERXStyleSheet
filename=default_screen_stylesheet.css framework=ERModernDefaultSkin /

I didn't quite realize this link was a call from my own PageWrapper and not
something embedded.

Maybe I just need to get my href's properly aligned with my deployment
strategy there somehow?

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Model Frameworks and Library Conflict Question

I have two frameworks. Each has its own model.

FrameworkModel1
FrameworkModel2

In order for me to see the models I have to import the other's framework.

This then causes a red explanation point error. Because they are referring to 
each other.
How do I get around this?

Thanks
James


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Re: Model Frameworks and Library Conflict Question

2012-12-05 Thread Chuck Hill

Refactor so that you don't have cyclic references.  Or implement EOMöbius.


Chuck


On 2012-12-05, at 4:55 PM, James Cicenia wrote:

 I have two frameworks. Each has its own model.
 
 FrameworkModel1
 FrameworkModel2
 
 In order for me to see the models I have to import the other's framework.
 
 This then causes a red explanation point error. Because they are referring to 
 each other.
 How do I get around this?
 
 Thanks
 James
 
 
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Re: Model Frameworks and Library Conflict Question

2012-12-05 Thread Lon Varscsak

Yeah, I agree with Chuck.  Have 1 framework…if those types of
dependencies exist, keeping them separate isn't going to provide
anything other than headaches.

-Lon

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:
 Refactor so that you don't have cyclic references.  Or implement EOMöbius.


 Chuck


 On 2012-12-05, at 4:55 PM, James Cicenia wrote:

 I have two frameworks. Each has its own model.

 FrameworkModel1
 FrameworkModel2

 In order for me to see the models I have to import the other's framework.

 This then causes a red explanation point error. Because they are referring 
 to each other.
 How do I get around this?

 Thanks
 James


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Re: Model Frameworks and Library Conflict Question

Suboptimal. :-(

FM1.User == FM2.Person

Now I have to give up the reflexive relationship or the two one relationship.

How does one then ever fully bridge two models from two frameworks?

James


On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:

 Refactor so that you don't have cyclic references.  Or implement EOMöbius.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 On 2012-12-05, at 4:55 PM, James Cicenia wrote:
 
 I have two frameworks. Each has its own model.
 
 FrameworkModel1
 FrameworkModel2
 
 In order for me to see the models I have to import the other's framework.
 
 This then causes a red explanation point error. Because they are referring 
 to each other.
 How do I get around this?
 
 Thanks
 James
 
 
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Re: Model Frameworks and Library Conflict Question

2012-12-05 Thread Chuck Hill

ERPartials


On 2012-12-05, at 5:33 PM, James Cicenia wrote:

 Suboptimal. :-(
 
 FM1.User == FM2.Person
 
 Now I have to give up the reflexive relationship or the two one relationship.
 
 How does one then ever fully bridge two models from two frameworks?
 
 James
 
 
 On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:
 
 Refactor so that you don't have cyclic references.  Or implement EOMöbius.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 On 2012-12-05, at 4:55 PM, James Cicenia wrote:
 
 I have two frameworks. Each has its own model.
 
 FrameworkModel1
 FrameworkModel2
 
 In order for me to see the models I have to import the other's framework.
 
 This then causes a red explanation point error. Because they are referring 
 to each other.
 How do I get around this?
 
 Thanks
 James
 
 
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Re: Model Frameworks and Library Conflict Question

I don't think my pay grade give me the top secret clearance for those esoteric 
fringes of wonder.

I will brake the bound and move on.

Maybe one day to revisit it with some ERPartial magic.

Thanks


On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:

 ERPartials
 
 
 On 2012-12-05, at 5:33 PM, James Cicenia wrote:
 
 Suboptimal. :-(
 
 FM1.User == FM2.Person
 
 Now I have to give up the reflexive relationship or the two one relationship.
 
 How does one then ever fully bridge two models from two frameworks?
 
 James
 
 
 On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:
 
 Refactor so that you don't have cyclic references.  Or implement EOMöbius.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 On 2012-12-05, at 4:55 PM, James Cicenia wrote:
 
 I have two frameworks. Each has its own model.
 
 FrameworkModel1
 FrameworkModel2
 
 In order for me to see the models I have to import the other's framework.
 
 This then causes a red explanation point error. Because they are referring 
 to each other.
 How do I get around this?
 
 Thanks
 James
 
 
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Re: Model Frameworks and Library Conflict Question

2012-12-05 Thread Ramsey Gurley

Subclass :-)

James Cicenia ja...@jimijon.com wrote:

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Re: Model Frameworks and Library Conflict Question

Ramsey knows what I am trying to do.

But that leads to other quandaries:

We have an ERUser framework, and I have my project framework. 

I would like to separate User/Auth from my account, profile, business, etc.

So which is proper? Does a person subclass a user or does a user subclass a 
person.
In my case practicalities seem to dictate that I subclass user. But then the 
issue of actual
database storage comes into play. I want my user table separate for my person 
table.

So I still think I should punt and just break one side and and bridge where 
needed in code.


On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Ramsey Gurley ramseygur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subclass :-)
 
 James Cicenia ja...@jimijon.com wrote:
 
 Suboptimal. :-(
 
 FM1.User == FM2.Person
 
 Now I have to give up the reflexive relationship or the two one relationship.
 
 How does one then ever fully bridge two models from two frameworks?
 
 James
 
 
 On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:
 
 Refactor so that you don't have cyclic references.  Or implement EOMöbius.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 On 2012-12-05, at 4:55 PM, James Cicenia wrote:
 
 I have two frameworks. Each has its own model.
 
 FrameworkModel1
 FrameworkModel2
 
 In order for me to see the models I have to import the other's framework.
 
 This then causes a red explanation point error. Because they are referring 
 to each other.
 How do I get around this?
 
 Thanks
 James
 
 
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Re: Model Frameworks and Library Conflict Question

2012-12-05 Thread programmingosx

We've started using ERXPartial for just this purpose. With David's notes, it is 
pretty straightforward to implement.

On 2012-12-05, at 7:12 PM, James Cicenia ja...@jimijon.com wrote:

 Ramsey knows what I am trying to do.
 
 But that leads to other quandaries:
 
 We have an ERUser framework, and I have my project framework. 
 
 I would like to separate User/Auth from my account, profile, business, etc.
 
 So which is proper? Does a person subclass a user or does a user subclass a 
 person.
 In my case practicalities seem to dictate that I subclass user. But then the 
 issue of actual
 database storage comes into play. I want my user table separate for my person 
 table.
 
 So I still think I should punt and just break one side and and bridge where 
 needed in code.
 
 
 On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Ramsey Gurley ramseygur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Subclass :-)
 
 James Cicenia ja...@jimijon.com wrote:
 
 Suboptimal. :-(
 
 FM1.User == FM2.Person
 
 Now I have to give up the reflexive relationship or the two one relationship.
 
 How does one then ever fully bridge two models from two frameworks?
 
 James
 
 
 On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:
 
 Refactor so that you don't have cyclic references.  Or implement EOMöbius.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 On 2012-12-05, at 4:55 PM, James Cicenia wrote:
 
 I have two frameworks. Each has its own model.
 
 FrameworkModel1
 FrameworkModel2
 
 In order for me to see the models I have to import the other's framework.
 
 This then causes a red explanation point error. Because they are referring 
 to each other.
 How do I get around this?
 
 Thanks
 James
 
 
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Re: Model Frameworks and Library Conflict Question

2012-12-05 Thread Ramsey Gurley

On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:12 PM, James Cicenia wrote:

 Ramsey knows what I am trying to do.
 
 But that leads to other quandaries:
 
 We have an ERUser framework, and I have my project framework. 
 
 I would like to separate User/Auth from my account, profile, business, etc.
 
 So which is proper? Does a person subclass a user or does a user subclass a 
 person.


I think you understood me to mean subclass User is Person. I mean have a 
subclass User is MyUser and relate it to Person. That's my plan with it anyway. 
Your subclass can live in framework 2 and you can relate it to anything you 
want there. Partials sounds appropriate if what you need is something like 
multiple inheritance.


 In my case practicalities seem to dictate that I subclass user. But then the 
 issue of actual
 database storage comes into play. I want my user table separate for my person 
 table.
 
 So I still think I should punt and just break one side and and bridge where 
 needed in code.
 
 
 On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Ramsey Gurley ramseygur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Subclass :-)
 
 James Cicenia ja...@jimijon.com wrote:
 
 Suboptimal. :-(
 
 FM1.User == FM2.Person
 
 Now I have to give up the reflexive relationship or the two one relationship.
 
 How does one then ever fully bridge two models from two frameworks?
 
 James
 
 
 On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:
 
 Refactor so that you don't have cyclic references.  Or implement EOMöbius.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 On 2012-12-05, at 4:55 PM, James Cicenia wrote:
 
 I have two frameworks. Each has its own model.
 
 FrameworkModel1
 FrameworkModel2
 
 In order for me to see the models I have to import the other's framework.
 
 This then causes a red explanation point error. Because they are referring 
 to each other.
 How do I get around this?
 
 Thanks
 James
 
 
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