b in server exception strings

2014-02-04 Thread John Pollard
Hi List,

For deny delete rules, exception messages contain embedded html formatting, for 
example:

Cannot delete this bOrganisation/b. You should first delete items in its 
bBlah Blahs Related Objects/b

As I present these in a Java Client window, rather than a browser, they look 
odd. Is there a quick work-around to not have the html formatting in error 
messages.

Many thanks,
John
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Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1

2014-02-04 Thread Hugi Thordarson
I’m getting an error on 4.3 where if I open a component (the component editor), 
it just shows up empty and then proceeds to throw bazillion 
nullpointerexceptions at me.

I seem to recall having seen this before, but can’t for the life of me remember 
what I did to fix it. Light any bulbs for anyone?

Cheers,
- hugi



On 3.2.2014, at 13:55, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:

 3.x does the same thing...
 
 On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately I got side tracked this weekend, so I did not get a chance to 
 clean up the code. 
 
 However, I have not seen the issue you are describing in EOModeler. There 
 are times when the properties panel does not populate, but you just have to 
 click on something else and then click back. So it is just an annoyance and 
 not a problem.
 
 Frank
 
 
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Lon Varscsak lon.varsc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There was some wonkiness in the EOModeler tool too.  I vaguely remember 
 you'd go to edit a field (like class name) and it would clear all the 
 contents...so it was sort of impossible to work with.  Did that ever get 
 resolved?
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 And Eclipse 4.x full support is one of the recurrent requests in the 
 surveys!
 
 De: David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com
 À: Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com
 Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Envoyé: Vendredi 31 Janvier 2014 09:41:56
 Objet: Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1
 
 
 Awesome! I would love to move forward!
 
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 I have been using it for a few weeks now and it seems to be working. I will 
 try to get it all cleaned up this weekend and then all I will need it help 
 moving it from my personal guthub to the official project guthub.
 
 Frank
 
 
 On Jan 29, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 Frank,
 
 While I volunteered to look at this at the last meeting, I have not had the 
 time.  I would love to help, especially if you’ve gotten something going 
 already which would alleviate the dreaded “figure it out first” problem.
 
 Ken
 
 On Jan 21, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 I finally got tired of being stuck with Eclipse 3.x and sat dow to figure 
 out what was causing the NullPointerException. 
 
 I found the problem and fixed it and built it locally. I have been running 
 it for a couple of days now without any problems. However, there are a 
 couple of problems with getting this out to everyone:
 
 1) There were some libraries that were referenced with environment 
 variables. I hard coded the paths (It was 4am). I could probably go back 
 and fix this myself after a couple of days.
 
 2) I took out support for JRebel and JProfiler, because I did not want to 
 track down any libraries those are dependent on (again it was 4am). Does 
 anyone have experience with these parts?
 
 3) I am not very familiar with Git so I created my own repository 
 (https://github.com/fcobia/wolips). Can someone help me get my changes 
 moved into the official repository so that jenkins can be successful 
 building for Eclipse 4.3?
 
 Is there anyone interested in having a functioning WOLips for Eclipse 4.3 
 that could help me at least with numbers 2 and 3?
 
 Thanks,
 Frank
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Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1

2014-02-04 Thread Jesse Tayler

did you perform standard voodoo tasks like restarting eclipse and even your 
machine?

I had something like that not long ago after some updates and time without 
launch…maybe java changes…I dunno —

works now!

ha!

good luck


On Feb 4, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is wrote:

 I’m getting an error on 4.3 where if I open a component (the component 
 editor), it just shows up empty and then proceeds to throw bazillion 
 nullpointerexceptions at me.
 
 I seem to recall having seen this before, but can’t for the life of me 
 remember what I did to fix it. Light any bulbs for anyone?
 
 Cheers,
 - hugi
 
 
 
 On 3.2.2014, at 13:55, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 3.x does the same thing...
 
 On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately I got side tracked this weekend, so I did not get a chance to 
 clean up the code. 
 
 However, I have not seen the issue you are describing in EOModeler. There 
 are times when the properties panel does not populate, but you just have to 
 click on something else and then click back. So it is just an annoyance and 
 not a problem.
 
 Frank
 
 
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Lon Varscsak lon.varsc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There was some wonkiness in the EOModeler tool too.  I vaguely remember 
 you'd go to edit a field (like class name) and it would clear all the 
 contents...so it was sort of impossible to work with.  Did that ever get 
 resolved?
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 And Eclipse 4.x full support is one of the recurrent requests in the 
 surveys!
 
 De: David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com
 À: Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com
 Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Envoyé: Vendredi 31 Janvier 2014 09:41:56
 Objet: Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1
 
 
 Awesome! I would love to move forward!
 
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 I have been using it for a few weeks now and it seems to be working. I 
 will try to get it all cleaned up this weekend and then all I will need it 
 help moving it from my personal guthub to the official project guthub.
 
 Frank
 
 
 On Jan 29, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 Frank,
 
 While I volunteered to look at this at the last meeting, I have not had 
 the time.  I would love to help, especially if you’ve gotten something 
 going already which would alleviate the dreaded “figure it out first” 
 problem.
 
 Ken
 
 On Jan 21, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 I finally got tired of being stuck with Eclipse 3.x and sat dow to figure 
 out what was causing the NullPointerException. 
 
 I found the problem and fixed it and built it locally. I have been running 
 it for a couple of days now without any problems. However, there are a 
 couple of problems with getting this out to everyone:
 
 1) There were some libraries that were referenced with environment 
 variables. I hard coded the paths (It was 4am). I could probably go back 
 and fix this myself after a couple of days.
 
 2) I took out support for JRebel and JProfiler, because I did not want to 
 track down any libraries those are dependent on (again it was 4am). Does 
 anyone have experience with these parts?
 
 3) I am not very familiar with Git so I created my own repository 
 (https://github.com/fcobia/wolips). Can someone help me get my changes 
 moved into the official repository so that jenkins can be successful 
 building for Eclipse 4.3?
 
 Is there anyone interested in having a functioning WOLips for Eclipse 4.3 
 that could help me at least with numbers 2 and 3?
 
 Thanks,
 Frank
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Rép: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1

2014-02-04 Thread Jean-François Veillette
I do what Lars recommended and it work!

I did a compare of the file before/after and the only diff is the number of 
that properties:
org.objectstyle.wolips.componenteditor.sashWeights=805,194
so you can simply remove that properties and it will work again.

From what I looked at, the fix from Frank Cobia was commenting out the line 
culprit.  I did not looked enough to conclude if it was a real fix, or a mere 
workaround for now.

jfv

 De : Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
 Objet : Workaround for annoying NPE bug when opening WOComponent Editor
 Date : 22 octobre 2013 06:49:28 HAE
 À : webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com List List 
 webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 
 Hi List,
 
 I don't know if you're also affected by this, but all my coworkers 
 experience from time to time those annoying cascades of NPEs when opening a 
 WOComponent in the WOComponent Editor on Eclipse Kepler (4.3) and WOLips 4.3 
 which, once they're happening, never go away by themselves.
 
 Now my coworker Tommy has found a workaround for this:
 
 - shutdown Eclipse
 - delete 
 .metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.core.runtime/.settings/org.objectstyle.wolips.wodclipse.core.prefs
  from your workspace
 - restart Eclipse
 
 - everything should work fine now. When the problem recurs just delete this 
 file again.
 
 
 I hope this was helpful to some of you.
 
 cheers,
 
  Lars
 
 
 Le 2014-02-04 à 09:05, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is a écrit :
 
 I’m getting an error on 4.3 where if I open a component (the component 
 editor), it just shows up empty and then proceeds to throw bazillion 
 nullpointerexceptions at me.
 
 I seem to recall having seen this before, but can’t for the life of me 
 remember what I did to fix it. Light any bulbs for anyone?
 
 Cheers,
 - hugi
 
 
 
 On 3.2.2014, at 13:55, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 3.x does the same thing...
 
 On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately I got side tracked this weekend, so I did not get a chance 
 to clean up the code. 
 
 However, I have not seen the issue you are describing in EOModeler. There 
 are times when the properties panel does not populate, but you just have 
 to click on something else and then click back. So it is just an annoyance 
 and not a problem.
 
 Frank
 
 
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Lon Varscsak lon.varsc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There was some wonkiness in the EOModeler tool too.  I vaguely remember 
 you'd go to edit a field (like class name) and it would clear all the 
 contents...so it was sort of impossible to work with.  Did that ever get 
 resolved?
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 And Eclipse 4.x full support is one of the recurrent requests in the 
 surveys!
 
 De: David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com
 À: Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com
 Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Envoyé: Vendredi 31 Janvier 2014 09:41:56
 Objet: Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1
 
 
 Awesome! I would love to move forward!
 
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 I have been using it for a few weeks now and it seems to be working. I 
 will try to get it all cleaned up this weekend and then all I will need 
 it help moving it from my personal guthub to the official project guthub.
 
 Frank
 
 
 On Jan 29, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 Frank,
 
 While I volunteered to look at this at the last meeting, I have not had 
 the time.  I would love to help, especially if you’ve gotten something 
 going already which would alleviate the dreaded “figure it out first” 
 problem.
 
 Ken
 
 On Jan 21, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 I finally got tired of being stuck with Eclipse 3.x and sat dow to figure 
 out what was causing the NullPointerException. 
 
 I found the problem and fixed it and built it locally. I have been 
 running it for a couple of days now without any problems. However, there 
 are a couple of problems with getting this out to everyone:
 
 1) There were some libraries that were referenced with environment 
 variables. I hard coded the paths (It was 4am). I could probably go back 
 and fix this myself after a couple of days.
 
 2) I took out support for JRebel and JProfiler, because I did not want to 
 track down any libraries those are dependent on (again it was 4am). Does 
 anyone have experience with these parts?
 
 3) I am not very familiar with Git so I created my own repository 
 (https://github.com/fcobia/wolips). Can someone help me get my changes 
 moved into the official repository so that jenkins can be successful 
 building for Eclipse 4.3?
 
 Is there anyone interested in having a functioning WOLips for Eclipse 4.3 
 that could help me at least with numbers 2 and 3?
 
 Thanks,
 Frank
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Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1

2014-02-04 Thread Hugi Thordarson
This worked like a charm, thanks guys! :)

Cheers,
- hugi



On 4.2.2014, at 14:56, Jean-François Veillette 
jean_francois_veille...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 I do what Lars recommended and it work!
 
 I did a compare of the file before/after and the only diff is the number of 
 that properties:
 org.objectstyle.wolips.componenteditor.sashWeights=805,194
 so you can simply remove that properties and it will work again.
 
 From what I looked at, the fix from Frank Cobia was commenting out the line 
 culprit.  I did not looked enough to conclude if it was a real fix, or a mere 
 workaround for now.
 
 jfv
 
 De : Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
 Objet : Workaround for annoying NPE bug when opening WOComponent Editor
 Date : 22 octobre 2013 06:49:28 HAE
 À : webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com List List 
 webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 
 Hi List,
 
 I don't know if you're also affected by this, but all my coworkers 
 experience from time to time those annoying cascades of NPEs when opening a 
 WOComponent in the WOComponent Editor on Eclipse Kepler (4.3) and WOLips 
 4.3 which, once they're happening, never go away by themselves.
 
 Now my coworker Tommy has found a workaround for this:
 
 - shutdown Eclipse
 - delete 
 .metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.core.runtime/.settings/org.objectstyle.wolips.wodclipse.core.prefs
  from your workspace
 - restart Eclipse
 
 - everything should work fine now. When the problem recurs just delete 
 this file again.
 
 
 I hope this was helpful to some of you.
 
 cheers,
 
 Lars
 
 
 Le 2014-02-04 à 09:05, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is a écrit :
 
 I’m getting an error on 4.3 where if I open a component (the component 
 editor), it just shows up empty and then proceeds to throw bazillion 
 nullpointerexceptions at me.
 
 I seem to recall having seen this before, but can’t for the life of me 
 remember what I did to fix it. Light any bulbs for anyone?
 
 Cheers,
 - hugi
 
 
 
 On 3.2.2014, at 13:55, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 3.x does the same thing...
 
 On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately I got side tracked this weekend, so I did not get a chance 
 to clean up the code. 
 
 However, I have not seen the issue you are describing in EOModeler. There 
 are times when the properties panel does not populate, but you just have 
 to click on something else and then click back. So it is just an 
 annoyance and not a problem.
 
 Frank
 
 
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Lon Varscsak lon.varsc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There was some wonkiness in the EOModeler tool too.  I vaguely remember 
 you'd go to edit a field (like class name) and it would clear all the 
 contents...so it was sort of impossible to work with.  Did that ever get 
 resolved?
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 And Eclipse 4.x full support is one of the recurrent requests in the 
 surveys!
 
 De: David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com
 À: Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com
 Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Envoyé: Vendredi 31 Janvier 2014 09:41:56
 Objet: Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1
 
 
 Awesome! I would love to move forward!
 
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 I have been using it for a few weeks now and it seems to be working. I 
 will try to get it all cleaned up this weekend and then all I will need 
 it help moving it from my personal guthub to the official project guthub.
 
 Frank
 
 
 On Jan 29, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com 
 wrote:
 
 Frank,
 
 While I volunteered to look at this at the last meeting, I have not had 
 the time.  I would love to help, especially if you’ve gotten something 
 going already which would alleviate the dreaded “figure it out first” 
 problem.
 
 Ken
 
 On Jan 21, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 I finally got tired of being stuck with Eclipse 3.x and sat dow to 
 figure out what was causing the NullPointerException. 
 
 I found the problem and fixed it and built it locally. I have been 
 running it for a couple of days now without any problems. However, there 
 are a couple of problems with getting this out to everyone:
 
 1) There were some libraries that were referenced with environment 
 variables. I hard coded the paths (It was 4am). I could probably go back 
 and fix this myself after a couple of days.
 
 2) I took out support for JRebel and JProfiler, because I did not want 
 to track down any libraries those are dependent on (again it was 4am). 
 Does anyone have experience with these parts?
 
 3) I am not very familiar with Git so I created my own repository 
 (https://github.com/fcobia/wolips). Can someone help me get my changes 
 moved into the official repository so that jenkins can be successful 
 building for Eclipse 4.3?
 
 Is there anyone interested in having a functioning WOLips for Eclipse 
 4.3 that could help me at 

Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1

2014-02-04 Thread Frank Cobia
I will give this a try and see if that fixes things for me. I am not sure what 
sashWeights does, but I am not sure that is the problem. I have tried doing 
similar things to this in the past and it would work for a while and then go 
back to throwing the NPEs.

Here are the two things I did in the source to fix things. 

1) There are a lot of source files with garbled comments. I am not sure what 
happened there, but the comments seem to have been added years ago. I think the 
files got corrupted somehow. The java compiler complains about the characters 
not being UTF-8. Since they are not code and I don't know how to recover the 
un-garbbled comments, I just deleted them.

2) There is a kind of race condition. When you open the editor, while preparing 
the editor, it makes a call that makes a call, that makes a call, etc. 
Eventually that gets to a line that call core eclipse code. The core eclipse 
code then tries to access the editor. The problem is that the editor is still 
in the process of opening. There is probably a more elegant way to fix this, 
since the problem is that it is trying to access a variable that has not been 
set yet. The data that will be set already exists in a temporary variable, so 
one possible fix could be to set the variable sooner, but I am not sure if that 
would cause larger problems. However, the line that was causing the problem, 
appeared, based on the comment, to fix an obscure seldom encountered problem. 
So I commented that line out and I have not had any problems.

Even if deleting that file fixes the current problem, if you go to Jenkins, you 
will see that the source no longer compiles. So, the plugin still needs to be 
fixed.

Frank


On Feb 4, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is wrote:

 This worked like a charm, thanks guys! :)
 
 Cheers,
 - hugi
 
 
 
 On 4.2.2014, at 14:56, Jean-François Veillette 
 jean_francois_veille...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 
 I do what Lars recommended and it work!
 
 I did a compare of the file before/after and the only diff is the number of 
 that properties:
 org.objectstyle.wolips.componenteditor.sashWeights=805,194
 so you can simply remove that properties and it will work again.
 
 From what I looked at, the fix from Frank Cobia was commenting out the line 
 culprit.  I did not looked enough to conclude if it was a real fix, or a 
 mere workaround for now.
 
 jfv
 
 De : Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
 Objet : Workaround for annoying NPE bug when opening WOComponent Editor
 Date : 22 octobre 2013 06:49:28 HAE
 À : webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com List List 
 webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 
 Hi List,
 
 I don't know if you're also affected by this, but all my coworkers 
 experience from time to time those annoying cascades of NPEs when opening 
 a WOComponent in the WOComponent Editor on Eclipse Kepler (4.3) and WOLips 
 4.3 which, once they're happening, never go away by themselves.
 
 Now my coworker Tommy has found a workaround for this:
 
 - shutdown Eclipse
 - delete 
 .metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.core.runtime/.settings/org.objectstyle.wolips.wodclipse.core.prefs
  from your workspace
 - restart Eclipse
 
 - everything should work fine now. When the problem recurs just delete 
 this file again.
 
 
 I hope this was helpful to some of you.
 
 cheers,
 
Lars
 
 
 Le 2014-02-04 à 09:05, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is a écrit :
 
 I’m getting an error on 4.3 where if I open a component (the component 
 editor), it just shows up empty and then proceeds to throw bazillion 
 nullpointerexceptions at me.
 
 I seem to recall having seen this before, but can’t for the life of me 
 remember what I did to fix it. Light any bulbs for anyone?
 
 Cheers,
 - hugi
 
 
 
 On 3.2.2014, at 13:55, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 3.x does the same thing...
 
 On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately I got side tracked this weekend, so I did not get a chance 
 to clean up the code. 
 
 However, I have not seen the issue you are describing in EOModeler. 
 There are times when the properties panel does not populate, but you 
 just have to click on something else and then click back. So it is just 
 an annoyance and not a problem.
 
 Frank
 
 
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Lon Varscsak lon.varsc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 There was some wonkiness in the EOModeler tool too.  I vaguely remember 
 you'd go to edit a field (like class name) and it would clear all the 
 contents...so it was sort of impossible to work with.  Did that ever 
 get resolved?
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 And Eclipse 4.x full support is one of the recurrent requests in the 
 surveys!
 
 De: David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com
 À: Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com
 Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Envoyé: Vendredi 31 Janvier 2014 09:41:56
 Objet: Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1
 
 
 Awesome! I would 

Upgrading WebObjects?

2014-02-04 Thread Calven Eggert
Hi, All

I've been working in WO for a number of years at my current job and our 
multiple WO systems generally work without a major problems, however, I am 
getting sporadic issues that I think could be fixed going to Project Wonder. 
Plus, I want to integrate AJAX into our applications.

My company is buying me a new iMac (yay!) and so I thought that this would be a 
good time to upgrade.  I believe that the steps I need to follow are on the 
Wonder Tutorial 
page(http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Wonder+Tutorials).  
Specifically, I'll do the Installation, Setup and Upgrading step and then 
I'll need to follow the steps in the Integrating Wonder into your webobjects 
app section.  Is this fairly painless?  Any caveats?

I currently build my apps and frameworks in Eclipse using the WOLips Ant Tools 
Install menu item.  On this page 
(http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Binary+Frameworks+Installation+and+Upgrade)
 it talks about the different versions of WO.  I could not figure out how to 
determine my WO version, although I found a wolips.properties.533 file in a 
WOLips folder in my Library/Application Support folder.  Does this mean that I 
am running WO5.3.3?  Are there any concerns, in regards to the WO version that 
I need to be aware of in performing this upgrade?

Any other comments or suggestions to help make this transition go smoothly 
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Calven



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Re: Upgrading WebObjects?

2014-02-04 Thread Chuck Hill
Hi Calven,

If you are on 5.3.3, this might help:
http://www.global-village.net/chill/webobjects_5.4.2_changes

Try this to see which version you are running

grep -A 1 CFBundleShortVersionString 
/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/Resources/Info.plist


E.g.

keyCFBundleShortVersionString/key

string5.4.3/string



Chuck

On 2/4/2014, 8:25 AM, Calven Eggert wrote:

Hi, All

I've been working in WO for a number of years at my current job and our 
multiple WO systems generally work without a major problems, however, I am 
getting sporadic issues that I think could be fixed going to Project Wonder. 
Plus, I want to integrate AJAX into our applications.

My company is buying me a new iMac (yay!) and so I thought that this would be a 
good time to upgrade.  I believe that the steps I need to follow are on the 
Wonder Tutorial 
page(http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Wonder+Tutorials).  
Specifically, I'll do the Installation, Setup and Upgrading step and then 
I'll need to follow the steps in the Integrating Wonder into your webobjects 
app section.  Is this fairly painless?  Any caveats?

I currently build my apps and frameworks in Eclipse using the WOLips Ant Tools 
Install menu item.  On this page 
(http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Binary+Frameworks+Installation+and+Upgrade)
 it talks about the different versions of WO.  I could not figure out how to 
determine my WO version, although I found a wolips.properties.533 file in a 
WOLips folder in my Library/Application Support folder.  Does this mean that I 
am running WO5.3.3?  Are there any concerns, in regards to the WO version that 
I need to be aware of in performing this upgrade?

Any other comments or suggestions to help make this transition go smoothly 
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Calven



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Re: Upgrading WebObjects?

2014-02-04 Thread Calven Eggert
Thanks Chuck, Now I know that I'm using 5.4.3.

On 2014-02-04, at 12:00 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

 Hi Calven,
 
 If you are on 5.3.3, this might help:
 http://www.global-village.net/chill/webobjects_5.4.2_changes
 
 Try this to see which version you are running
 grep -A 1 CFBundleShortVersionString 
 /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/Resources/Info.plist 
 
 E.g.
 keyCFBundleShortVersionString/key
 string5.4.3/string
 
 
 Chuck
 
 On 2/4/2014, 8:25 AM, Calven Eggert wrote:
 
 Hi, All
 
 I've been working in WO for a number of years at my current job and our 
 multiple WO systems generally work without a major problems, however, I am 
 getting sporadic issues that I think could be fixed going to Project Wonder. 
 Plus, I want to integrate AJAX into our applications.
 
 My company is buying me a new iMac (yay!) and so I thought that this would be 
 a good time to upgrade.  I believe that the steps I need to follow are on the 
 Wonder Tutorial 
 page(http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Wonder+Tutorials).  
 Specifically, I'll do the Installation, Setup and Upgrading step and then 
 I'll need to follow the steps in the Integrating Wonder into your webobjects 
 app section.  Is this fairly painless?  Any caveats?
 
 I currently build my apps and frameworks in Eclipse using the WOLips Ant 
 Tools Install menu item.  On this page 
 (http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Binary+Frameworks+Installation+and+Upgrade)
  it talks about the different versions of WO.  I could not figure out how to 
 determine my WO version, although I found a wolips.properties.533 file in a 
 WOLips folder in my Library/Application Support folder.  Does this mean that 
 I am running WO5.3.3?  Are there any concerns, in regards to the WO version 
 that I need to be aware of in performing this upgrade?
 
 Any other comments or suggestions to help make this transition go smoothly 
 would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Calven
 
 
 
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success installing new WO dev platform

2014-02-04 Thread ray
Apple's MacBook strategy has finally done it. I have bought my first non-Apple computer since 1989. I went to the Apple Store to replace my main dev machine, a 2012-ish MacBook Pro, which worked great for me even if it did seem fiendishly heavy. But I could not get myself to buy one of the new models.Sorry I just do not care so much about the Retina display. I want computation power and disk space. Apparently this is too much to ask of Apple. Smallish hard disks and not really enough RAM and who the heck thinks soldering that RAM to the board is a good idea? Really! And at the store I could get the barely adequate RAM or the maybe-enough disk space, but not both. If I want both, I have to order on-line. Wow. Never mind.So I got an Asus with twice as much hard disk space and similar CPU speeds for less than half the price. I figured out enough about WIndows 8 to install Ubuntu over it and it is good. I guess if Apple's strategy is to dumb down the general-purpose computer so it can only be a phone or tablet, then they are succeeding.It was relatively easy to get my MySQL databases moved over and to re-build my eclipse environment. I will have to recheck the Project Wonder install page. There are some details that may need to be fixed, but nothing that stopped me.I think I am going to miss the two-finger drag on the Mac's trackpad, though. And I seriously need to figure out how to left-click on the trackpad more reliably. And hitting the grow box on the windows is a challenge, to say the least. I see the "grow box" icon and then click and, oops, missed the window again! O well. So far, this seems a small price to pay. And can Apple's DRM mess up my music collection, as it has done twice? Nope. And I am so not going to miss iTunes or the App StoreWell, it was nice to see that installing and using WO and Wonder on non-Apple hardware is just fairly easy and just works, as it should. Now, back to work.cheers - ray
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Re: success installing new WO dev platform

2014-02-04 Thread Ken Anderson
Sorry you feel that way Ray!  I am typing this on my late 2013 MBP and I love 
it!

500GB of solid state disk is enough for me - and the performance is awesome.  I 
felt the same way about the retina display, but I’ve come to really appreciate 
it, if only when I’m traveling and not in front of my 27”.

Take care,
Ken


On Feb 4, 2014, at 4:29 PM, r...@ganymede.org wrote:

 
 Apple's MacBook strategy has finally done it. I have bought my first 
 non-Apple computer since 1989. I went to the Apple Store to replace my main 
 dev machine, a 2012-ish MacBook Pro, which worked great for me even if it did 
 seem fiendishly heavy. But I could not get myself to buy one of the new 
 models.
 
 Sorry I just do not care so much about the Retina display. I want computation 
 power and disk space. Apparently this is too much to ask of Apple. Smallish 
 hard disks and not really enough RAM and who the heck thinks soldering that 
 RAM to the board is a good idea? Really! And at the store I could get the 
 barely adequate RAM or the maybe-enough disk space, but not both. If I want 
 both, I have to order on-line. Wow. Never mind.
 
 So I got an Asus with twice as much hard disk space and similar CPU speeds 
 for less than half the price. I figured out enough about WIndows 8 to install 
 Ubuntu over it and it is good. I guess if Apple's strategy is to dumb down 
 the general-purpose computer so it can only be a phone or tablet, then they 
 are succeeding.
 
 It was relatively easy to get my MySQL databases moved over and to re-build 
 my eclipse environment. I will have to recheck the Project Wonder install 
 page. There are some details that may need to be fixed, but nothing that 
 stopped me.
 
 I think I am going to miss the two-finger drag on the Mac's trackpad, though. 
 And I seriously need to figure out how to left-click on the trackpad more 
 reliably. And hitting the grow box on the windows is a challenge, to say the 
 least. I see the grow box icon and then click and, oops, missed the window 
 again! O well. So far, this seems a small price to pay. And can Apple's DRM 
 mess up my music collection, as it has done twice? Nope. And I am so not 
 going to miss iTunes or the App Store
 
 Well, it was nice to see that installing and using WO and Wonder on non-Apple 
 hardware is just fairly easy and just works, as it should. Now, back to work.
 
 cheers - ray
 
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Suggestions for WOWODC Topics?

2014-02-04 Thread Chuck Hill
Hi,

Another year and I am looking about for WOWODC presentation topics.  Two that I 
am considering:

1. Using a framework for testing high concurrency in applications.  It is not 
my framework but has applications in testing code where locking and 
multithreaded concurrent access is a concern.

2. How qualifiers work in memory and at the database and how to write your own. 
 This will look at the pieces of code in WO that make qualifiers work (e.g. 
generate the SQL) and how to use them to create your own qualifiers.


Other ideas welcome, I need to get writing!


Chuck


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Re: success installing new WO dev platform

2014-02-04 Thread Quinton Dolan

On 5 Feb 2014, at 8:29 am, r...@ganymede.org wrote:

 
 Well, it was nice to see that installing and using WO and Wonder on non-Apple 
 hardware is just fairly easy and just works, as it should. Now, back to work.

And in violation of the WO license agreement if you use it for development.

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Fwd: success installing new WO dev platform

2014-02-04 Thread Jonathan Miller
Forgot to cc: the list.

Glad you found the right computer for you but just in case someone would
like to read the review of someone who went the other way I'll state my
experience.  I received a new MacBook Pro at work and I had a 2012 model.
 This new model is easily the best laptop I've ever owned.  I don't really
use the retina display but you can scale the screen to 1920 x 1200 which is
very useful for me because I like to use Eclipse/WebStorm with two editors
open.  The SSD is the big difference though - the time it takes to boot
from sleep and write files has dramatically decreased.  But most
importantly, for me, it's no longer like having a furnace in your lap.
 It's very quiet and cool.   I believe it's a combination of the SSD and
the processor but I can now run Eclipse, WebStorm, Photoshop and VMWare in
Unity mode without feeling the computer slowly turning to a halt.  In fact,
I don't even notice a drop in performance with those and about a dozen
other lighter weight apps open.

Anyway, that's my experience...

MB Pro i7 2.7 16GB RAM with 500 GB SSD


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:29 PM, r...@ganymede.org wrote:


 Apple's MacBook strategy has finally done it. I have bought my first
 non-Apple computer since 1989. I went to the Apple Store to replace my main
 dev machine, a 2012-ish MacBook Pro, which worked great for me even if it
 did seem fiendishly heavy. But I could not get myself to buy one of the new
 models.

 Sorry I just do not care so much about the Retina display. I want
 computation power and disk space. Apparently this is too much to ask of
 Apple. Smallish hard disks and not really enough RAM and who the heck
 thinks soldering that RAM to the board is a good idea? Really! And at the
 store I could get the barely adequate RAM or the maybe-enough disk space,
 but not both. If I want both, I have to order on-line. Wow. Never mind.

 So I got an Asus with twice as much hard disk space and similar CPU speeds
 for less than half the price. I figured out enough about WIndows 8 to
 install Ubuntu over it and it is good. I guess if Apple's strategy is to
 dumb down the general-purpose computer so it can only be a phone or tablet,
 then they are succeeding.

 It was relatively easy to get my MySQL databases moved over and to
 re-build my eclipse environment. I will have to recheck the Project Wonder
 install page. There are some details that may need to be fixed, but nothing
 that stopped me.

 I think I am going to miss the two-finger drag on the Mac's trackpad,
 though. And I seriously need to figure out how to left-click on the
 trackpad more reliably. And hitting the grow box on the windows is a
 challenge, to say the least. I see the grow box icon and then click and,
 oops, missed the window again! O well. So far, this seems a small price to
 pay. And can Apple's DRM mess up my music collection, as it has done twice?
 Nope. And I am so not going to miss iTunes or the App Store

 Well, it was nice to see that installing and using WO and Wonder on
 non-Apple hardware is just fairly easy and just works, as it should. Now,
 back to work.

 cheers - ray


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