Wonder 6.1.1 is out

2014-02-10 Thread Johann Werner
Hi list,

it has been a long time but finally Wonder 6.1.1 is officially out. Point your 
browser to the release page on github 
https://github.com/wocommunity/wonder/releases to get everything you need: a 
changelog and all artifacts you would get from the wocommunity jenkins server.

Beginning with this version of the frameworks Wonder applications will log out 
that version number on startup. This is amongst others to make it easier for 
getting help from the mailing list as to provide more information on your WO 
setup. The version number reported on the Wonder Javadoc documentation will 
reflect that version number too so you can be sure looking at the documentation 
matching your version.

Thanks for all those who contributed!


For those using their own jenkins servers:
Building the documentation put the Javadocs into a directory 
dist/wonder-6.0/Documentation. That path changed to 
dist/wonder/Documentation without the -6.0 part. You should check the 
settings of the Javadoc publisher plugin if that path is still matched or 
update it accordingly.


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Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1

2014-02-10 Thread Frank Cobia
I admit that I do not have any expertise in this problem, but I thought the 
problem was that they were Japanese. However, I also saw comments in Japanese 
that displayed without any issue. The compiler is complaining that the comments 
are not UTF-8. Maybe these particular comments are Shift-jis or something.

If the comments have not been corrupted somehow, then perhaps there have been 
changes to the java compiler. Either way, those comments prevent the code from 
compiling. You can see the results on the wocommunity Jenkins server: 
http://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips43/5/console

This actually sounds like something that Ken should be able to answer.

Frank


On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Quinton Dolan qdo...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you are talking about the comments in the html editor code.. they are 
 messed up because are written in japanese.  They have always been like that.
 
 http://amateras.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki/wiki.cgi?page=EclipseHTMLEditor
 
 On 5 Feb 2014, at 1:37 am, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:
 
 1) There are a lot of source files with garbled comments. I am not sure what 
 happened there, but the comments seem to have been added years ago. I think 
 the files got corrupted somehow. The java compiler complains about the 
 characters not being UTF-8. Since they are not code and I don't know how to 
 recover the un-garbbled comments, I just deleted them.
 
 

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Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1

2014-02-10 Thread Frank Cobia
I would be willing to contribute to this.

Frank


On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:26 AM, David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com wrote:

 We could do it something like in a crowd-funding way - everyone makes a 
 commitment to the level of contribution they are comfortable with, and if we 
 reach the stated goal, only then are people charged.
 
 I’m guessing we’d need to raise $10,000+ to make it worth someone’s time to 
 fix/rewrite WOLips and add lots and lots and lots of documentation so we 
 aren’t hostage to the one person who wrote it.
 
 I think we could achieve that.
 
 Dave
 
 On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:00 AM, James Cicenia ja...@jimijon.com wrote:
 
 
 How about we just fund an Eclipse Plug-In developer? 
 
 We could add money or bitcoins to a community sponsored fund and then see if 
 a developer is interested. 
 
 ?
 
 On Feb 6, 2014, at 1:18 AM, Johann Werner j...@oyosys.com wrote:
 
 
 Am 04.02.2014 um 16:37 schrieb Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com:
 
 I will give this a try and see if that fixes things for me. I am not sure 
 what sashWeights does, but I am not sure that is the problem. I have tried 
 doing similar things to this in the past and it would work for a while and 
 then go back to throwing the NPEs.
 
 Here are the two things I did in the source to fix things. 
 
 1) There are a lot of source files with garbled comments. I am not sure 
 what happened there, but the comments seem to have been added years ago. I 
 think the files got corrupted somehow. The java compiler complains about 
 the characters not being UTF-8. Since they are not code and I don't know 
 how to recover the un-garbbled comments, I just deleted them.
 
 Can those comments be resurrected from the repository history? 
 Unfortunately besides those comments WOLips has no documentation (or is 
 there?)
 
 2) There is a kind of race condition. When you open the editor, while 
 preparing the editor, it makes a call that makes a call, that makes a 
 call, etc. Eventually that gets to a line that call core eclipse code. The 
 core eclipse code then tries to access the editor. The problem is that the 
 editor is still in the process of opening. There is probably a more 
 elegant way to fix this, since the problem is that it is trying to access 
 a variable that has not been set yet. The data that will be set already 
 exists in a temporary variable, so one possible fix could be to set the 
 variable sooner, but I am not sure if that would cause larger problems. 
 However, the line that was causing the problem, appeared, based on the 
 comment, to fix an obscure seldom encountered problem. So I commented that 
 line out and I have not had any problems.
 
 Even if deleting that file fixes the current problem, if you go to 
 Jenkins, you will see that the source no longer compiles. So, the plugin 
 still needs to be fixed.
 
 Frank
 
 
 On Feb 4, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is wrote:
 
 This worked like a charm, thanks guys! :)
 
 Cheers,
 - hugi
 
 
 
 On 4.2.2014, at 14:56, Jean-François Veillette 
 jean_francois_veille...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 
 I do what Lars recommended and it work!
 
 I did a compare of the file before/after and the only diff is the number 
 of that properties:
 org.objectstyle.wolips.componenteditor.sashWeights=805,194
 so you can simply remove that properties and it will work again.
 
 From what I looked at, the fix from Frank Cobia was commenting out the 
 line culprit.  I did not looked enough to conclude if it was a real fix, 
 or a mere workaround for now.
 
 jfv
 
 De : Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
 Objet : Workaround for annoying NPE bug when opening WOComponent Editor
 Date : 22 octobre 2013 06:49:28 HAE
 À : webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com List List 
 webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 
 Hi List,
 
 I don't know if you're also affected by this, but all my coworkers 
 experience from time to time those annoying cascades of NPEs when 
 opening a WOComponent in the WOComponent Editor on Eclipse Kepler 
 (4.3) and WOLips 4.3 which, once they're happening, never go away by 
 themselves.
 
 Now my coworker Tommy has found a workaround for this:
 
 - shutdown Eclipse
 - delete 
 .metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.core.runtime/.settings/org.objectstyle.wolips.wodclipse.core.prefs
  from your workspace
 - restart Eclipse
 
 - everything should work fine now. When the problem recurs just 
 delete this file again.
 
 
 I hope this was helpful to some of you.
 
 cheers,
 
Lars
 
 
 Le 2014-02-04 à 09:05, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is a écrit :
 
 I’m getting an error on 4.3 where if I open a component (the component 
 editor), it just shows up empty and then proceeds to throw bazillion 
 nullpointerexceptions at me.
 
 I seem to recall having seen this before, but can’t for the life of me 
 remember what I did to fix it. Light any bulbs for anyone?
 
 Cheers,
 - hugi
 
 
 
 On 3.2.2014, at 13:55, Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com wrote:
 
 3.x does the same 

Re: WOLips for Eclipse 4.3.1

2014-02-10 Thread Gino Pacitti
+1

On 10 Feb 2014, at 16:13, Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com wrote:

 I would be willing to contribute to this.
 
 Frank
 
 
 On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:26 AM, David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com 
 wrote:
 
 We could do it something like in a crowd-funding way - everyone makes a 
 commitment to the level of contribution they are comfortable with, and if we 
 reach the stated goal, only then are people charged.
 
 I’m guessing we’d need to raise $10,000+ to make it worth someone’s time to 
 fix/rewrite WOLips and add lots and lots and lots of documentation so we 
 aren’t hostage to the one person who wrote it.
 
 I think we could achieve that.
 
 Dave
 
 On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:00 AM, James Cicenia ja...@jimijon.com wrote:
 
 
 How about we just fund an Eclipse Plug-In developer? 
 
 We could add money or bitcoins to a community sponsored fund and then see 
 if a developer is interested. 
 
 ?
 
 On Feb 6, 2014, at 1:18 AM, Johann Werner j...@oyosys.com wrote:
 
 
 Am 04.02.2014 um 16:37 schrieb Frank Cobia frank_co...@me.com:
 
 I will give this a try and see if that fixes things for me. I am not sure 
 what sashWeights does, but I am not sure that is the problem. I have 
 tried doing similar things to this in the past and it would work for a 
 while and then go back to throwing the NPEs.
 
 Here are the two things I did in the source to fix things. 
 
 1) There are a lot of source files with garbled comments. I am not sure 
 what happened there, but the comments seem to have been added years ago. 
 I think the files got corrupted somehow. The java compiler complains 
 about the characters not being UTF-8. Since they are not code and I don't 
 know how to recover the un-garbbled comments, I just deleted them.
 
 Can those comments be resurrected from the repository history? 
 Unfortunately besides those comments WOLips has no documentation (or is 
 there?)
 
 2) There is a kind of race condition. When you open the editor, while 
 preparing the editor, it makes a call that makes a call, that makes a 
 call, etc. Eventually that gets to a line that call core eclipse code. 
 The core eclipse code then tries to access the editor. The problem is 
 that the editor is still in the process of opening. There is probably a 
 more elegant way to fix this, since the problem is that it is trying to 
 access a variable that has not been set yet. The data that will be set 
 already exists in a temporary variable, so one possible fix could be to 
 set the variable sooner, but I am not sure if that would cause larger 
 problems. However, the line that was causing the problem, appeared, based 
 on the comment, to fix an obscure seldom encountered problem. So I 
 commented that line out and I have not had any problems.
 
 Even if deleting that file fixes the current problem, if you go to 
 Jenkins, you will see that the source no longer compiles. So, the plugin 
 still needs to be fixed.
 
 Frank
 
 
 On Feb 4, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is wrote:
 
 This worked like a charm, thanks guys! :)
 
 Cheers,
 - hugi
 
 
 
 On 4.2.2014, at 14:56, Jean-François Veillette 
 jean_francois_veille...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 
 I do what Lars recommended and it work!
 
 I did a compare of the file before/after and the only diff is the 
 number of that properties:
 org.objectstyle.wolips.componenteditor.sashWeights=805,194
 so you can simply remove that properties and it will work again.
 
 From what I looked at, the fix from Frank Cobia was commenting out the 
 line culprit.  I did not looked enough to conclude if it was a real 
 fix, or a mere workaround for now.
 
 jfv
 
 De : Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
 Objet : Workaround for annoying NPE bug when opening WOComponent 
 Editor
 Date : 22 octobre 2013 06:49:28 HAE
 À : webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com List List 
 webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 
 Hi List,
 
 I don't know if you're also affected by this, but all my coworkers 
 experience from time to time those annoying cascades of NPEs when 
 opening a WOComponent in the WOComponent Editor on Eclipse Kepler 
 (4.3) and WOLips 4.3 which, once they're happening, never go away by 
 themselves.
 
 Now my coworker Tommy has found a workaround for this:
 
 - shutdown Eclipse
 - delete 
 .metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.core.runtime/.settings/org.objectstyle.wolips.wodclipse.core.prefs
  from your workspace
 - restart Eclipse
 
 - everything should work fine now. When the problem recurs just 
 delete this file again.
 
 
 I hope this was helpful to some of you.
 
 cheers,
 
   Lars
 
 
 Le 2014-02-04 à 09:05, Hugi Thordarson h...@karlmenn.is a écrit :
 
 I’m getting an error on 4.3 where if I open a component (the 
 component editor), it just shows up empty and then proceeds to throw 
 bazillion nullpointerexceptions at me.
 
 I seem to recall having seen this before, but can’t for the life of 
 me remember what I did to fix it. Light any bulbs for anyone?
 
 Cheers,
 - hugi
 
 
 
 On 3.2.2014, at 

Re: Wonder 6.1.1 is out

2014-02-10 Thread Gavin Eadie
Nicely done, everyone .. Gavin


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Johann Werner j...@oyosys.com wrote:

 Hi list,

 it has been a long time but finally Wonder 6.1.1 is officially out. Point
 your browser to the release page on github
 https://github.com/wocommunity/wonder/releases to get everything you
 need: a changelog and all artifacts you would get from the wocommunity
 jenkins server.

 Beginning with this version of the frameworks Wonder applications will log
 out that version number on startup. This is amongst others to make it
 easier for getting help from the mailing list as to provide more
 information on your WO setup. The version number reported on the Wonder
 Javadoc documentation will reflect that version number too so you can be
 sure looking at the documentation matching your version.

 Thanks for all those who contributed!


 For those using their own jenkins servers:
 Building the documentation put the Javadocs into a directory
 dist/wonder-6.0/Documentation. That path changed to
 dist/wonder/Documentation without the -6.0 part. You should check the
 settings of the Javadoc publisher plugin if that path is still matched or
 update it accordingly.

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Eclipse and WOLips, a friendly development environment?

2014-02-10 Thread Baiss Eric Magnusson
Such a difficult topic, for me also, sometime in  summer 2009 I sent an email 
to #1 and then they referred me to 2) etc., all known associates held in the 
highest esteem by me.

I have $500 to offer one of your developers to help me set up an Eclipse - WO 
development machine.

1) Ubermind Sheryar Khan - 2) GVC Chuck Hill - 3) Gary Teter - 4) Ubermind...

When I got 3)'s response I gave up. (actual recursive email available upon 
request)

And I am still waiting for some light to be shed on this breakdown.

The Seattle dBug WO SIG went from 25 active participants to 0, when XCode was 
gone and Eclipse entered the picture.

On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:

 I don’t think it is WOLips so much as it is Eclipse’s rather large API and 
 event driven programming model.
 
 ...

 On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:20 AM, George Domurot masterm...@knuckleheads.net 
 wrote:

 Is there someone that can give an overview of the current Eclipse/WOLips 
 development project, and how to get started working on updates?

 Seems like the folks at the conference should understand the basics of what 
 we are all using today — seems like we should commit to some level of updates 
 to the code base.
 -G
 


Baiss Eric Magnusson
Cascade Web Design




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Re: Eclipse and WOLips, a friendly development environment?

2014-02-10 Thread Chuck Hill
Is there a reason why you keep sending the same message every few days?


Chuck

On 2/10/2014, 3:47 PM, Baiss Eric Magnusson wrote:

Such a difficult topic, for me also, sometime in  summer 2009 I sent an email 
to #1 and then they referred me to 2) etc., all known associates held in the 
highest esteem by me.

I have $500 to offer one of your developers to help me set up an Eclipse - WO 
development machine.

1) Ubermind Sheryar Khan - 2) GVC Chuck Hill - 3) Gary Teter - 4) Ubermind...

When I got 3)'s response I gave up. (actual recursive email available upon 
request)

And I am still waiting for some light to be shed on this breakdown.

The Seattle dBug WO SIG went from 25 active participants to 0, when XCode was 
gone and Eclipse entered the picture.

On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Chuck Hill 
ch...@global-village.netmailto:ch...@global-village.net wrote:

I don’t think it is WOLips so much as it is Eclipse’s rather large API and 
event driven programming model.
...

On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:20 AM, George Domurot 
masterm...@knuckleheads.netmailto:masterm...@knuckleheads.net wrote:

Is there someone that can give an overview of the current Eclipse/WOLips 
development project, and how to get started working on updates?

Seems like the folks at the conference should understand the basics of what we 
are all using today — seems like we should commit to some level of updates to 
the code base.
-G


Baiss Eric Magnusson
Cascade Web Design




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Re: Eclipse and WOLips, a friendly development environment?

2014-02-10 Thread Timothy Worman
Dang! I didn’t know there was a market for that service!! Speaking for myself, 
I’d call that easy money. :-)

Though I highly doubt any of those firms are going to toss a developer to do 
that for $500. Just doesn’t make a lot of financial sense. The bitterness makes 
even less sense.

Tim
UCLA GSEIS

On Feb 10, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:

 Is there a reason why you keep sending the same message every few days?
 
 
 Chuck
 
 On 2/10/2014, 3:47 PM, Baiss Eric Magnusson wrote:
 
 Such a difficult topic, for me also, sometime in  summer 2009 I sent an email 
 to #1 and then they referred me to 2) etc., all known associates held in the 
 highest esteem by me.
 
 I have $500 to offer one of your developers to help me set up an Eclipse - 
 WO development machine.
 
 1) Ubermind Sheryar Khan - 2) GVC Chuck Hill - 3) Gary Teter - 4) 
 Ubermind...
 
 When I got 3)'s response I gave up. (actual recursive email available upon 
 request)
 
 And I am still waiting for some light to be shed on this breakdown.
 
 The Seattle dBug WO SIG went from 25 active participants to 0, when XCode was 
 gone and Eclipse entered the picture.
 
 On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:
 
 I don’t think it is WOLips so much as it is Eclipse’s rather large API and 
 event driven programming model.
 ...
 
 On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:20 AM, George Domurot masterm...@knuckleheads.net 
 wrote:
 
 Is there someone that can give an overview of the current Eclipse/WOLips 
 development project, and how to get started working on updates?
 
 Seems like the folks at the conference should understand the basics of what 
 we are all using today — seems like we should commit to some level of updates 
 to the code base.
 -G
 
 
 Baiss Eric Magnusson
 Cascade Web Design
 
 
 
 
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Re: Eclipse and WOLips, a friendly development environment?

2014-02-10 Thread Pascal Robert
Baiss, the community is down to about 200 people, nobody is going to make you 
happy and build a new developer tool for you. Ubermind is not doing any WO dev 
since 2009.

 Such a difficult topic, for me also, sometime in  summer 2009 I sent an email 
 to #1 and then they referred me to 2) etc., all known associates held in the 
 highest esteem by me.
 
 I have $500 to offer one of your developers to help me set up an Eclipse - 
 WO development machine.
 
 1) Ubermind Sheryar Khan - 2) GVC Chuck Hill - 3) Gary Teter - 4) 
 Ubermind...
 
 When I got 3)'s response I gave up. (actual recursive email available upon 
 request)
 
 And I am still waiting for some light to be shed on this breakdown.
 
 The Seattle dBug WO SIG went from 25 active participants to 0, when XCode was 
 gone and Eclipse entered the picture.
 
 On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:
 
 I don’t think it is WOLips so much as it is Eclipse’s rather large API and 
 event driven programming model.
 
 ...
 
 On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:20 AM, George Domurot masterm...@knuckleheads.net 
 wrote:
 
 Is there someone that can give an overview of the current Eclipse/WOLips 
 development project, and how to get started working on updates?
 
 Seems like the folks at the conference should understand the basics of what 
 we are all using today — seems like we should commit to some level of 
 updates to the code base.
 -G
 
 
 
 Baiss Eric Magnusson
 Cascade Web Design
 
 
 
 
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