Re: Any formal notice

[David Holt]

Hmmm. It seems like some of these list emails are being recycled from the 
distant past :)

> On Oct 26, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Chuck Hill  wrote:
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> But don’t ask him about Icelandic Sheep!  Or Hakarl for that matter.
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> On 2017-10-26, 4:08 PM, "Webobjects-dev on behalf of Hugi Thordarson" 
>  h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
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>All I can say is that since the WOCommunity Association took out that gag 
> order I'm not allowed to talk to the media about WO anymore.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 26 Oct 2017, at 22:52, Alan Ward  wrote:
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>> I heard that Goat Herding is the new WO.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Ken Anderson  wrote:
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>>> At least the WO union is in better shape than the united states… :(
>>> 
 On Oct 26, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Gino Pacitti  wrote:
 
 I do not think I am the first to notice the lack of activity on this list 
 but I was just interested to know what was the State of the Union?
 
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Re: Any formal notice

[Chuck Hill]

But don’t ask him about Icelandic Sheep!  Or Hakarl for that matter.


On 2017-10-26, 4:08 PM, "Webobjects-dev on behalf of Hugi Thordarson" 
 wrote:

All I can say is that since the WOCommunity Association took out that gag 
order I'm not allowed to talk to the media about WO anymore.



> On 26 Oct 2017, at 22:52, Alan Ward  wrote:
> 
> I heard that Goat Herding is the new WO.
> 
> Alan
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Ken Anderson  wrote:
>> 
>> At least the WO union is in better shape than the united states… :(
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Gino Pacitti  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I do not think I am the first to notice the lack of activity on this 
list but I was just interested to know what was the State of the Union?
>>> 
>>> Gino
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Re: Any formal notice

[Hugi Thordarson]

All I can say is that since the WOCommunity Association took out that gag order 
I'm not allowed to talk to the media about WO anymore.



> On 26 Oct 2017, at 22:52, Alan Ward  wrote:
> 
> I heard that Goat Herding is the new WO.
> 
> Alan
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Ken Anderson  wrote:
>> 
>> At least the WO union is in better shape than the united states… :(
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Gino Pacitti  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I do not think I am the first to notice the lack of activity on this list 
>>> but I was just interested to know what was the State of the Union?
>>> 
>>> Gino
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Re: Any formal notice

[Chuck Hill]

I am still saving my pennies for a Dream Goat Farm in New Zealand.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/couple-quit-high-flying-city-7565610


On 2017-10-26, 3:53 PM, "Webobjects-dev on behalf of Alan Ward" 
 wrote:

I heard that Goat Herding is the new WO.

Alan

> On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Ken Anderson  wrote:
> 
> At least the WO union is in better shape than the united states… :(
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Gino Pacitti  wrote:
>> 
>> I do not think I am the first to notice the lack of activity on this 
list but I was just interested to know what was the State of the Union?
>> 
>> Gino
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Re: Any formal notice

[Alan Ward]

I heard that Goat Herding is the new WO.

Alan

> On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Ken Anderson  wrote:
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> At least the WO union is in better shape than the united states… :(
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Gino Pacitti  wrote:
>> 
>> I do not think I am the first to notice the lack of activity on this list 
>> but I was just interested to know what was the State of the Union?
>> 
>> Gino
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Re: Database access

[Chuck Hill]

Hi André,

I think there must be  more to this than you have written here.  The only way 
that I can think of that (1) could happen is if you have multiple threads 
(maybe in multiple application instances) that are all writing to the same row 
in the database.  If saveChanges() does not throw, the change has already been 
written to the database and committed.

For (2) try re-fetching the EO(s) using a fetch spec with 
setRefreshesRefetchedObjects(true).  If that is not showing the correct 
numbers, then I have no idea what is happening.

Chuck

On 2017-10-26, 2:08 PM, "Webobjects-dev on behalf of André Rothe" 
 wrote:

Hi,

some more questions:

1. I have a thread, which runs a long time. To store the current status, 
I use an EO, which has an attribute called "completed". This attribute I 
set to 10% or 50% and so on. After a value change, I call 
ec.saveChanges(). But it seems, that the values are not visible in the 
database in the correct chronologically order. Sometimes I see 90, than 
I see 60 again. How can I force the write access to the database backend 
for the specific EO?

2. The attribute above I try to read in another EdititingContext. But I 
always see 0% (the start value) and after the thread finishes, I will 
see 100%. But it is not possible to get other values as long as the 
second thread runs. I have tried ec.invalidateObjectsWithGlobalIDs(ids), 
but it did not work as expected, "completed" returns always 0%. How I 
can force the EditingContext to read the current value from the 
database?

Thank you
Andre
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Database access

[André Rothe]

Hi,

some more questions:

1. I have a thread, which runs a long time. To store the current status, 
I use an EO, which has an attribute called "completed". This attribute I 
set to 10% or 50% and so on. After a value change, I call 
ec.saveChanges(). But it seems, that the values are not visible in the 
database in the correct chronologically order. Sometimes I see 90, than 
I see 60 again. How can I force the write access to the database backend 
for the specific EO?


2. The attribute above I try to read in another EdititingContext. But I 
always see 0% (the start value) and after the thread finishes, I will 
see 100%. But it is not possible to get other values as long as the 
second thread runs. I have tried ec.invalidateObjectsWithGlobalIDs(ids), 
but it did not work as expected, "completed" returns always 0%. How I 
can force the EditingContext to read the current value from the 
database?


Thank you
Andre
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Re: Any formal notice

[Ken Anderson]

At least the WO union is in better shape than the united states… :(

> On Oct 26, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Gino Pacitti  wrote:
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> I do not think I am the first to notice the lack of activity on this list but 
> I was just interested to know what was the State of the Union?
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> Gino
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Re: Any formal notice

[Aaron Rosenzweig]

No news is good news :-)
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> On Oct 26, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Gino Pacitti  wrote:
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> I was just interested to know what was the State of the Union?
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> Gino
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Any formal notice

[Gino Pacitti]

I do not think I am the first to notice the lack of activity on this list but I 
was just interested to know what was the State of the Union?

Gino
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