Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Am 06.07.2009 um 00:09 schrieb Lachlan Deck: On 03/07/2009, at 11:22 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: I find that if I highlight a number of files and F3 it's a disaster... the game's pretty much over :-/ No idea yet what the cause is. define game's pretty much over -- total app crash? deadlock? exception? Wait for 15 minutes whilst the beachball's at play and it may/may not open the selected files in that time. I find that the more files I open the slower 3.5 gets. I have to close lots of files to get back to normal operating speed. I went back to 3.4 due to the very noticeable slowdown, especially with a number of open files. For me, 3.4 definitely feels a lot more responsive. cheers, Fabian ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
There are some reports of performance issues on 3.5 ... Here is the data I've gathered so far: java editor 657 line file (with quite a few errors in it, just for good measure) holding down the arrow key to scroll through the document: eclipse 3.5.0 carbon 32bit leopard JDK 1.5 = 24s eclipse 3.5.0 cocoa 64bit leopard JDK 1.6 = 61s eclipse 3.5.0 cocoa 32bit leopard JDK 1.5 = 71s eclipse 3.4.2 carbon 32bit leopard JDK 1.5 = 21s this basically is showing that it's not 1.6 vs 1.5 (though that DOES give a decent bump to be on 1.6), but instead it's cocoa vs carbon making the big diff it appears that there is some degenerative redraw bug being hit here. maybe it's related to the package explorer scroll bug too? this is tracked in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=282229 and to some extent in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=268877 I haven't done testing of WOLips under 3.5 carbon, but I'm going to switch back to it and check it out, because it appears to be substantially faster than 3.5 cocoa in this particular build. I'm sure this will be resolved in 3.5.1 (iirc 3.4.0 was a bit of a disaster as well). ms On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:39 AM, Fabian Peters wrote: Am 06.07.2009 um 00:09 schrieb Lachlan Deck: On 03/07/2009, at 11:22 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: I find that if I highlight a number of files and F3 it's a disaster... the game's pretty much over :-/ No idea yet what the cause is. define game's pretty much over -- total app crash? deadlock? exception? Wait for 15 minutes whilst the beachball's at play and it may/may not open the selected files in that time. I find that the more files I open the slower 3.5 gets. I have to close lots of files to get back to normal operating speed. I went back to 3.4 due to the very noticeable slowdown, especially with a number of open files. For me, 3.4 definitely feels a lot more responsive. cheers, Fabian ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40mdimension.com This email sent to msch...@mdimension.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
On 03/07/2009, at 11:22 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: I find that if I highlight a number of files and F3 it's a disaster... the game's pretty much over :-/ No idea yet what the cause is. define game's pretty much over -- total app crash? deadlock? exception? Wait for 15 minutes whilst the beachball's at play and it may/may not open the selected files in that time. I find that the more files I open the slower 3.5 gets. I have to close lots of files to get back to normal operating speed. with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
I find that if I highlight a number of files and F3 it's a disaster... the game's pretty much over :-/ No idea yet what the cause is. define game's pretty much over -- total app crash? deadlock? exception? ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Where do you get the 64bit version. My understanding is that the default download package for cocoa is 32bit and I was unable to find a 64 bit download. Thanks, Frank On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: Hola Ricardo, :-) If you are on intel, try 64-bit version. Regards, Kieran On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: I was excited to try Eclipse 3.5, the Cocoa 32-bit version... At first it seemed faster but then after half an hour it got really slow. So slow that every keystroke would take between 10 secs to a couple of minutes to appear. I don't see this on the 3.4 version. The 3.4 does run out of memory and crashes but it doesn't get as slow as the 3.5 version. I do have a lot of projects in my workspace and only 2GB memory on my macbook pro (the first model that came out). Anyways, I had to go back to the 3.4 version. Haver other found 3.5 Cocoa 32-bit to be this slow? Thanks, Ricardo ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kieran_lists%40mac.com This email sent to kieran_li...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/frank.cobia%40f2technology.com This email sent to frank.co...@f2technology.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.5-200906111540/index.php Dave On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Mr. Frank Cobia wrote: Where do you get the 64bit version. My understanding is that the default download package for cocoa is 32bit and I was unable to find a 64 bit download. Thanks, Frank On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: Hola Ricardo, :-) If you are on intel, try 64-bit version. Regards, Kieran On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: I was excited to try Eclipse 3.5, the Cocoa 32-bit version... At first it seemed faster but then after half an hour it got really slow. So slow that every keystroke would take between 10 secs to a couple of minutes to appear. I don't see this on the 3.4 version. The 3.4 does run out of memory and crashes but it doesn't get as slow as the 3.5 version. I do have a lot of projects in my workspace and only 2GB memory on my macbook pro (the first model that came out). Anyways, I had to go back to the 3.4 version. Haver other found 3.5 Cocoa 32-bit to be this slow? Thanks, Ricardo ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kieran_lists%40mac.com This email sent to kieran_li...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/frank.cobia%40f2technology.com This email sent to frank.co...@f2technology.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Hello, 1) Does anyone know why eclipse crashes if you try to open a .wo file from a Related or Search view. Am I missing something from WOLips? Here is my installation, WOLips3.4.5840 WOLips Base 3.4.5840 WOLips Goodies Mac3.4.5840 WOLips Third Party Feature3.4.5840 2) Has anyone found that you have to keep removing and re-installing the webobjects frameworks in a WOLips project every time you re-boot Mac OSX! 3) Are the frequent crashes when using the editor due to Eclipse Galileo or WOLips? 4) Is it time to switch to Windows or go back to XCode Tiger WO 5.3! I will keep trying, André On 2-Jul-09, at 11:31 AM, David Avendasora wrote: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.5-200906111540/index.php Dave On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Mr. Frank Cobia wrote: Where do you get the 64bit version. My understanding is that the default download package for cocoa is 32bit and I was unable to find a 64 bit download. Thanks, Frank On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: Hola Ricardo, :-) If you are on intel, try 64-bit version. Regards, Kieran On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: I was excited to try Eclipse 3.5, the Cocoa 32-bit version... At first it seemed faster but then after half an hour it got really slow. So slow that every keystroke would take between 10 secs to a couple of minutes to appear. I don't see this on the 3.4 version. The 3.4 does run out of memory and crashes but it doesn't get as slow as the 3.5 version. I do have a lot of projects in my workspace and only 2GB memory on my macbook pro (the first model that came out). Anyways, I had to go back to the 3.4 version. Haver other found 3.5 Cocoa 32-bit to be this slow? Thanks, Ricardo ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kieran_lists%40mac.com This email sent to kieran_li...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/frank.cobia%40f2technology.com This email sent to frank.co...@f2technology.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/andre%40geometria.net This email sent to an...@geometria.net ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
1) Does anyone know why eclipse crashes if you try to open a .wo file from a Related or Search view. Am I missing something from WOLips? Here is my installation, crash does the eclipse process die? do you get an exception? what exception? what is the error message? what version of eclipse are you using? 2) Has anyone found that you have to keep removing and re-installing the webobjects frameworks in a WOLips project every time you re-boot Mac OSX! i've never had to ever do this, i don't know what you mean. what problem are you trying to solve? 3) Are the frequent crashes when using the editor due to Eclipse Galileo or WOLips? what crashes? errors? what error messages? is there a stack trace? if you're trying to use Galileo (3.5) with wolips 3.4, it's not going to work, you have to use the 3.5 build of wolips. the version number of wolips should match the version number of eclipse. 4) Is it time to switch to Windows or go back to XCode Tiger WO 5.3! i ... guess you could do that. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Thanks I downloaded the Eclipse SDK which seems to work. At first it would not do code completion, but I just had to go into the preferences and turn on Java code completion which was turned off for some reason. I am having one more problem. The ant build scripts are taking forever to run. I have added dependencies to the ant scripts so that they build jars, and frameworks that they depend on before building the application. The builds are now taking almost 6 minutes where they took about 1 minute or less before. The problem seems to be that it is recompiling code that has not changed where the old one only compiled the files if they had changed. Has anyone seen this or know what I can do to fix it? Thanks, Frank On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:31 AM, David Avendasora wrote: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.5-200906111540/index.php Dave On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Mr. Frank Cobia wrote: Where do you get the 64bit version. My understanding is that the default download package for cocoa is 32bit and I was unable to find a 64 bit download. Thanks, Frank On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: Hola Ricardo, :-) If you are on intel, try 64-bit version. Regards, Kieran On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: I was excited to try Eclipse 3.5, the Cocoa 32-bit version... At first it seemed faster but then after half an hour it got really slow. So slow that every keystroke would take between 10 secs to a couple of minutes to appear. I don't see this on the 3.4 version. The 3.4 does run out of memory and crashes but it doesn't get as slow as the 3.5 version. I do have a lot of projects in my workspace and only 2GB memory on my macbook pro (the first model that came out). Anyways, I had to go back to the 3.4 version. Haver other found 3.5 Cocoa 32-bit to be this slow? Thanks, Ricardo ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kieran_lists%40mac.com This email sent to kieran_li...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/frank.cobia%40f2technology.com This email sent to frank.co...@f2technology.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
So, it must be a version issue because my WOLips version is 3.4.5840 and the eclipse version is 3.5; but I got WOLips from http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wolips/eclipse_3_5/ . So where is WOLips 3.5? Thanks, André On 2-Jul-09, at 2:59 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: 1) Does anyone know why eclipse crashes if you try to open a .wo file from a Related or Search view. Am I missing something from WOLips? Here is my installation, crash does the eclipse process die? do you get an exception? what exception? what is the error message? what version of eclipse are you using? 2) Has anyone found that you have to keep removing and re- installing the webobjects frameworks in a WOLips project every time you re-boot Mac OSX! i've never had to ever do this, i don't know what you mean. what problem are you trying to solve? 3) Are the frequent crashes when using the editor due to Eclipse Galileo or WOLips? what crashes? errors? what error messages? is there a stack trace? if you're trying to use Galileo (3.5) with wolips 3.4, it's not going to work, you have to use the 3.5 build of wolips. the version number of wolips should match the version number of eclipse. 4) Is it time to switch to Windows or go back to XCode Tiger WO 5.3! i ... guess you could do that. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/andre%40geometria.net This email sent to an...@geometria.net ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
On 2-Jul-09, at 12:35 PM, André Mitra wrote: So, it must be a version issue because my WOLips version is 3.4.5840 and the eclipse version is 3.5; but I got WOLips from http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wolips/eclipse_3_5/. So where is WOLips 3.5? You have the right version of WOLips. The current version is numbered 3.4.5840 for Galileo David Thanks, André On 2-Jul-09, at 2:59 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: 1) Does anyone know why eclipse crashes if you try to open a .wo file from a Related or Search view. Am I missing something from WOLips? Here is my installation, crash does the eclipse process die? do you get an exception? what exception? what is the error message? what version of eclipse are you using? 2) Has anyone found that you have to keep removing and re- installing the webobjects frameworks in a WOLips project every time you re-boot Mac OSX! i've never had to ever do this, i don't know what you mean. what problem are you trying to solve? 3) Are the frequent crashes when using the editor due to Eclipse Galileo or WOLips? what crashes? errors? what error messages? is there a stack trace? if you're trying to use Galileo (3.5) with wolips 3.4, it's not going to work, you have to use the 3.5 build of wolips. the version number of wolips should match the version number of eclipse. 4) Is it time to switch to Windows or go back to XCode Tiger WO 5.3! i ... guess you could do that. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/andre% 40geometria.net This email sent to an...@geometria.net ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/programmingosx %40mac.com This email sent to programming...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
So, it must be a version issue because my WOLips version is 3.4.5840 and the eclipse version is 3.5; but I got WOLips from http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wolips/eclipse_3_5/ . So where is WOLips 3.5? You have the right version of WOLips. The current version is numbered 3.4.5840 for Galileo whoops .. yeah .. must not have bumped the version # when i branched ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
So, it must be a version issue because my WOLips version is 3.4.5840 and the eclipse version is 3.5; but I got WOLips from http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wolips/eclipse_3_5/ . So where is WOLips 3.5? You have the right version of WOLips. The current version is numbered 3.4.5840 for Galileo whoops .. yeah .. must not have bumped the version # when i branched by the way, 3.5 is not recommended for anyone for production use ... at the moment it's more nightly than even nightly is, though it will be moving to the real nightly probably tonight. even as nightly, though, buyer beware. if you don't know what you're doing, you should use 3.4 and stable. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Thanks Mike, I will take that advice... André On 2-Jul-09, at 4:53 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: So, it must be a version issue because my WOLips version is 3.4.5840 and the eclipse version is 3.5; but I got WOLips from http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wolips/eclipse_3_5/ . So where is WOLips 3.5? You have the right version of WOLips. The current version is numbered 3.4.5840 for Galileo whoops .. yeah .. must not have bumped the version # when i branched by the way, 3.5 is not recommended for anyone for production use ... at the moment it's more nightly than even nightly is, though it will be moving to the real nightly probably tonight. even as nightly, though, buyer beware. if you don't know what you're doing, you should use 3.4 and stable. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/andre%40geometria.net This email sent to an...@geometria.net ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
I find that if I highlight a number of files and F3 it's a disaster... the game's pretty much over :-/ No idea yet what the cause is. On 03/07/2009, at 4:59 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: 1) Does anyone know why eclipse crashes if you try to open a .wo file from a Related or Search view. Am I missing something from WOLips? Here is my installation, crash does the eclipse process die? do you get an exception? what exception? what is the error message? what version of eclipse are you using? 2) Has anyone found that you have to keep removing and re- installing the webobjects frameworks in a WOLips project every time you re-boot Mac OSX! i've never had to ever do this, i don't know what you mean. what problem are you trying to solve? 3) Are the frequent crashes when using the editor due to Eclipse Galileo or WOLips? what crashes? errors? what error messages? is there a stack trace? if you're trying to use Galileo (3.5) with wolips 3.4, it's not going to work, you have to use the 3.5 build of wolips. the version number of wolips should match the version number of eclipse. 4) Is it time to switch to Windows or go back to XCode Tiger WO 5.3! i ... guess you could do that. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lachlan.deck%40gmail.com This email sent to lachlan.d...@gmail.com with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Hello, is this nightly build ? http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wolips/eclipse_3_5/ do you know if subversive and connectors works with 64bit 3.5 eclipse? Thanks Regards Amedeo On 30/giu/09, at 07:03, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: With snow leopard most of the system apps will be 64-bit. Me too wanna switch... but I'll wait a bit more... On Jun 30, 2009, at 12:39 AM, David Holt wrote: Switching to 64 bit now! Thanks guys, David On 29-Jun-09, at 6:30 PM, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hi David; From memory it is the Core 2 Duo processors which are able to work in 64bit mode. The earlier MacBook Pros (like the one sitting in front of me from 2006) is a Core Duo and is only able to run in 32bit mode. cheers. Is it a chip that allows 64 bit or the operating system? I was under the impression that Leopard wasn't quite there yet... ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/rparada%40mac.com This email sent to rpar...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomailing%40insigno.it This email sent to amedeomail...@insigno.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
On 30/06/2009, at 6:11 PM, Amedeo Mantica wrote: is this nightly build ? http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wolips/eclipse_3_5/ Don't know. do you know if subversive and connectors works with 64bit 3.5 eclipse? Appears to work for me. with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
On 30/06/2009, at 6:11 PM, Amedeo Mantica wrote: Hello, is this nightly build ? http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wolips/eclipse_3_5/ It's a temporary branch we are using for 3.5 development until the current nightly branch becomes the final stable release for 3.4 do you know if subversive and connectors works with 64bit 3.5 eclipse? I don't know about subversive, but subclipse works fine with 64bit JDK. Thanks Regards Amedeo On 30/giu/09, at 07:03, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: With snow leopard most of the system apps will be 64-bit. Me too wanna switch... but I'll wait a bit more... On Jun 30, 2009, at 12:39 AM, David Holt wrote: Switching to 64 bit now! Thanks guys, David On 29-Jun-09, at 6:30 PM, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hi David; From memory it is the Core 2 Duo processors which are able to work in 64bit mode. The earlier MacBook Pros (like the one sitting in front of me from 2006) is a Core Duo and is only able to run in 32bit mode. cheers. Is it a chip that allows 64 bit or the operating system? I was under the impression that Leopard wasn't quite there yet... ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/rparada%40mac.com This email sent to rpar...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomailing%40insigno.it This email sent to amedeomail...@insigno.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/qdolan%40gmail.com This email sent to qdo...@gmail.com -- Seeya...Q Quinton Dolan - qdo...@gmail.com Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10) Ph: +61 419 729 806 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
It is not yet the nightly, although it is built nightly. It will probably become nightly within a couple days. Subclipse works fine.. No idea about subversive. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 30, 2009, at 4:11 AM, Amedeo Mantica amedeomail...@insigno.it wrote: Hello, is this nightly build ? http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wolips/eclipse_3_5/ do you know if subversive and connectors works with 64bit 3.5 eclipse? Thanks Regards Amedeo On 30/giu/09, at 07:03, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: With snow leopard most of the system apps will be 64-bit. Me too wanna switch... but I'll wait a bit more... On Jun 30, 2009, at 12:39 AM, David Holt wrote: Switching to 64 bit now! Thanks guys, David On 29-Jun-09, at 6:30 PM, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hi David; From memory it is the Core 2 Duo processors which are able to work in 64bit mode. The earlier MacBook Pros (like the one sitting in front of me from 2006) is a Core Duo and is only able to run in 32bit mode. cheers. Is it a chip that allows 64 bit or the operating system? I was under the impression that Leopard wasn't quite there yet... ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/rparada%40mac.com This email sent to rpar...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomailing%40insigno.it This email sent to amedeomail...@insigno.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
On 30. Jun. 2009, at 05:08 , Mike Schrag wrote: It is not yet the nightly, although it is built nightly. It will probably become nightly within a couple days. Subclipse works fine.. No idea about subversive. Works fine. As far as I can tell ... ;-) Guido ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Eclipse 3.5 slow?
I was excited to try Eclipse 3.5, the Cocoa 32-bit version... At first it seemed faster but then after half an hour it got really slow. So slow that every keystroke would take between 10 secs to a couple of minutes to appear. I don't see this on the 3.4 version. The 3.4 does run out of memory and crashes but it doesn't get as slow as the 3.5 version. I do have a lot of projects in my workspace and only 2GB memory on my macbook pro (the first model that came out). Anyways, I had to go back to the 3.4 version. Haver other found 3.5 Cocoa 32-bit to be this slow? Thanks, Ricardo ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Hola Ricardo, :-) If you are on intel, try 64-bit version. Regards, Kieran On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: I was excited to try Eclipse 3.5, the Cocoa 32-bit version... At first it seemed faster but then after half an hour it got really slow. So slow that every keystroke would take between 10 secs to a couple of minutes to appear. I don't see this on the 3.4 version. The 3.4 does run out of memory and crashes but it doesn't get as slow as the 3.5 version. I do have a lot of projects in my workspace and only 2GB memory on my macbook pro (the first model that came out). Anyways, I had to go back to the 3.4 version. Haver other found 3.5 Cocoa 32-bit to be this slow? Thanks, Ricardo ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kieran_lists%40mac.com This email sent to kieran_li...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Is it a chip that allows 64 bit or the operating system? I was under the impression that Leopard wasn't quite there yet... David On 29-Jun-09, at 5:25 PM, Q wrote: On 30/06/2009, at 10:22 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: Hola Ricardo, :-) If you are on intel, try 64-bit version. I don't think his model of MBP support's 64bit. On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: I was excited to try Eclipse 3.5, the Cocoa 32-bit version... At first it seemed faster but then after half an hour it got really slow. So slow that every keystroke would take between 10 secs to a couple of minutes to appear. I don't see this on the 3.4 version. The 3.4 does run out of memory and crashes but it doesn't get as slow as the 3.5 version. I do have a lot of projects in my workspace and only 2GB memory on my macbook pro (the first model that came out). Anyways, I had to go back to the 3.4 version. Haver other found 3.5 Cocoa 32-bit to be this slow? What build of the WOLips 3.5 plugin are you using? Do you have Mac Goodies installed? -- Seeya...Q Quinton Dolan - qdo...@gmail.com Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10) Ph: +61 419 729 806 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/programmingosx%40mac.com This email sent to programming...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Hi David; From memory it is the Core 2 Duo processors which are able to work in 64bit mode. The earlier MacBook Pros (like the one sitting in front of me from 2006) is a Core Duo and is only able to run in 32bit mode. cheers. Is it a chip that allows 64 bit or the operating system? I was under the impression that Leopard wasn't quite there yet... ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Hi Quinton, I was under the impression too that Core 2 Duos did not support 64bit, but someone-I-believe-from-Apple told me that every Intel since Core 2 Duo supports 64bit. the-person-who-I-cannot-name went so far as to say that we should be choosing 64bit versions of apps rather than 32bit, since we will be upgrading to Snow Leopard soon and 64bit apps run faster on Snow Leopard than 32bit apps since Snow Leopard is 64bit optimized. This also challenged my impression that 64bit was only good for when more memory was needed for specific apps. I use 64bit choices when available on my Mac Pro, and due to my apparently incorrect understanding, I have been choosing 32bit stuff on my MacBook Pro. I will clone my Mac Pro this week when I get a chance and boot the MacBook Pro from the clone to verify with 64bit MySQL as an example. Regards, Kieran On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:25 PM, Q wrote: On 30/06/2009, at 10:22 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: Hola Ricardo, :-) If you are on intel, try 64-bit version. I don't think his model of MBP support's 64bit. On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: I was excited to try Eclipse 3.5, the Cocoa 32-bit version... At first it seemed faster but then after half an hour it got really slow. So slow that every keystroke would take between 10 secs to a couple of minutes to appear. I don't see this on the 3.4 version. The 3.4 does run out of memory and crashes but it doesn't get as slow as the 3.5 version. I do have a lot of projects in my workspace and only 2GB memory on my macbook pro (the first model that came out). Anyways, I had to go back to the 3.4 version. Haver other found 3.5 Cocoa 32-bit to be this slow? What build of the WOLips 3.5 plugin are you using? Do you have Mac Goodies installed? -- Seeya...Q Quinton Dolan - qdo...@gmail.com Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10) Ph: +61 419 729 806 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Hi Kieran; What sort of host is that one? cheers. My current Activity Monitor right now on Leopard. showing apache and mysql 64bit are running (switching this thread to woproject since I expect apple wo-dev to stop the email due to size ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Yep, my MBP doesn't support 64-bit... it's the very first one Core Duo. I believe for 64-bit you have to have a Core 2 Duo. I'm using WOLips 3.4.5827 which I got from http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wolips/eclipse_3_5/ I selected the standard install and then deselected the WOLips Goodies Win. Like this: inline: Picture 1.png I'm itching to upgrade but I'm still looking forward to a quad-core iMac with tons of memory... :-) On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:25 PM, Q wrote: On 30/06/2009, at 10:22 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: Hola Ricardo, :-) If you are on intel, try 64-bit version. I don't think his model of MBP support's 64bit. On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: I was excited to try Eclipse 3.5, the Cocoa 32-bit version... At first it seemed faster but then after half an hour it got really slow. So slow that every keystroke would take between 10 secs to a couple of minutes to appear. I don't see this on the 3.4 version. The 3.4 does run out of memory and crashes but it doesn't get as slow as the 3.5 version. I do have a lot of projects in my workspace and only 2GB memory on my macbook pro (the first model that came out). Anyways, I had to go back to the 3.4 version. Haver other found 3.5 Cocoa 32-bit to be this slow? What build of the WOLips 3.5 plugin are you using? Do you have Mac Goodies installed? -- Seeya...Q Quinton Dolan - qdo...@gmail.com Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10) Ph: +61 419 729 806 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
Switching to 64 bit now! Thanks guys, David On 29-Jun-09, at 6:30 PM, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hi David; From memory it is the Core 2 Duo processors which are able to work in 64bit mode. The earlier MacBook Pros (like the one sitting in front of me from 2006) is a Core Duo and is only able to run in 32bit mode. cheers. Is it a chip that allows 64 bit or the operating system? I was under the impression that Leopard wasn't quite there yet... ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Eclipse 3.5 slow?
With snow leopard most of the system apps will be 64-bit. Me too wanna switch... but I'll wait a bit more... On Jun 30, 2009, at 12:39 AM, David Holt wrote: Switching to 64 bit now! Thanks guys, David On 29-Jun-09, at 6:30 PM, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hi David; From memory it is the Core 2 Duo processors which are able to work in 64bit mode. The earlier MacBook Pros (like the one sitting in front of me from 2006) is a Core Duo and is only able to run in 32bit mode. cheers. Is it a chip that allows 64 bit or the operating system? I was under the impression that Leopard wasn't quite there yet... ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/rparada %40mac.com This email sent to rpar...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
