Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
I have the code to do this ... I'll send it. You get a multipart iterator on the request and then get a stream from the part. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2010, at 6:41 PM, "Chuck Hill" wrote: On Jan 15, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Chuck, I think the "streamToFilePath" binding is what you need to use. What bindings are you using? I'm not using a WODynamicElement (i.e. WOFileUpload). This is a direct action for third party APIs to call so there is no UI. Or, am I misunderstanding your question? That does make it harder. See WORequest.contentInputStream() and also on your disk /Developer/Examples/JavaWebObjects/FileUpload Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 21:47:45, Chuck Hill wrote: It has been a while since I implemented this. I think the "streamToFilePath" binding is what you need to use. What bindings are you using? Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Chuck, I hadn't considered that. I am using a direct action form post to handle the upload. - Joe On Jan 14, 2010, at 20:40:08, Chuck Hill wrote: Are you using the streaming handler for uploads? If you are, there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor. I've seen uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a very, very long time with no timeout. Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct? On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hello Joe; My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit in sequence into a stream. I haven't explicitly tested this from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from MacOS-X to move video files around. You could build something similar to this. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. cheers. Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40mdimension.com This email sent to msch...@mdimension.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
On Jan 15, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Chuck, I think the "streamToFilePath" binding is what you need to use. What bindings are you using? I'm not using a WODynamicElement (i.e. WOFileUpload). This is a direct action for third party APIs to call so there is no UI. Or, am I misunderstanding your question? That does make it harder. See WORequest.contentInputStream() and also on your disk /Developer/Examples/JavaWebObjects/FileUpload Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 21:47:45, Chuck Hill wrote: It has been a while since I implemented this. I think the "streamToFilePath" binding is what you need to use. What bindings are you using? Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Chuck, I hadn't considered that. I am using a direct action form post to handle the upload. - Joe On Jan 14, 2010, at 20:40:08, Chuck Hill wrote: Are you using the streaming handler for uploads? If you are, there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor. I've seen uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a very, very long time with no timeout. Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct? On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hello Joe; My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit in sequence into a stream. I haven't explicitly tested this from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from MacOS-X to move video files around. You could build something similar to this. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. cheers. Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
Chuck, I think the "streamToFilePath" binding is what you need to use. What bindings are you using? I'm not using a WODynamicElement (i.e. WOFileUpload). This is a direct action for third party APIs to call so there is no UI. Or, am I misunderstanding your question? Thanks, Joe On Jan 14, 2010, at 21:47:45, Chuck Hill wrote: It has been a while since I implemented this. I think the "streamToFilePath" binding is what you need to use. What bindings are you using? Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Chuck, I hadn't considered that. I am using a direct action form post to handle the upload. - Joe On Jan 14, 2010, at 20:40:08, Chuck Hill wrote: Are you using the streaming handler for uploads? If you are, there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor. I've seen uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a very, very long time with no timeout. Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct? On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hello Joe; My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit in sequence into a stream. I haven't explicitly tested this from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from MacOS- X to move video files around. You could build something similar to this. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. cheers. Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
On Jan 15, 2010, at 4:04 AM, msch...@mdimension.com wrote: I thought that as long as bytes are flowing that the request won't timeout. Correct. The problem with the non-streaming version (the data binding, I think) is that Apache would accumulate the _entire_ upload before passing it to the WO adaptor. During that time, the session could time out. With streaming, the request goes to the app immediately and checks out the session preventing timeout. The streaming upload was a very nice change both for memory management and for preventing session time out. Chuck Isn't the adaptor timeout based on lack of activity? I'm with chuck --- I have an app that does enormous (multigig) uploada to a DA without any timeouts. ms Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:48 AM, "Chuck Hill" wrote: It has been a while since I implemented this. I think the "streamToFilePath" binding is what you need to use. What bindings are you using? Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Chuck, I hadn't considered that. I am using a direct action form post to handle the upload. - Joe On Jan 14, 2010, at 20:40:08, Chuck Hill wrote: Are you using the streaming handler for uploads? If you are, there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor. I've seen uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a very, very long time with no timeout. Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct? On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hello Joe; My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit in sequence into a stream. I haven't explicitly tested this from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from MacOS-X to move video files around. You could build something similar to this. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. cheers. Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40mdimension.com This email sent to msch...@mdimension.com -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hello Chuck; Assuming an instance with concurrent request processing turned on, if there are a number of sessions (or even stateless users) on the same instance with a large volume of transactions, will the streaming WORequest multiplex with the other requests? Not sure what you mean by "multiplex". I think it may use a WOWorkerThread for the duration of the upload, but I am not certain. My understanding was that the WebObjects adaptor queues requests into an instance rather than multiplexes them. Instances will accept request up to # of Worker Threads + Listen Queue Size. More than that, and the adaptor will return an error message. Worker Threads process in parallel, subject to single threaded locks in EOF. So if a large transaction arrives from a slow pipe, will it not block the other requests until either the adaptor times it out or a response is returned to the client? Not if concurrent request processing is on. It will block that one session and WOWorkerThread (again, I think). PS: The javadoc for WORequests refers to the "wis" request handler -- I hadn't heard of this one before! That is for direct actions. Chuck cheers. Are you using the streaming handler for uploads? If you are, there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor. I've seen uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a very, very long time with no timeout. ... I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. ... In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
> So, there are three different flavors? Why "ERX" and "ERXWO" and "Ajax" of > the same thing? > > Perhaps it is just a general rule for understanding Wonder: There are at > least three ways of doing anything: ak-ish, ms-ish, and ch-ish. :-) > > It kind of makes as much sense as any other explanation Another explanation might be that they do different things and meet the needs of different requirements? AjaxLongResponse: uses an Ajax periodic update to refresh its component content as long as the isRunning binding returns true ERXLongResponse: javadoc says it better than i can * ERXLongResponse is like WOLongResponsePage from JavaWOExtensions, but * it can be used as a component and doesn't need to be subclassed. * Instead, you provide a ERXLongResponseTask subclass and set it * via either the bindings or explicitely. ERXWOLongResponsePage: javadoc says it better than i can * ERXWOLongResponsePage is just like WOLongResponsePage except that it * cleans up editing context locks at the end of run() just like the behavior * at the end of a normal R-R loop. WOLongResponsePage: this is the original -- all of JavaWOExtensions was brought into Wonder so, WOLongResponsePage is just the bare-slate original ERXWOLongResponsePage (which probably could be autopatched in, actually) is what you would use if you want autolocking in your long response. ERXLongResponse is what you would use if you want to use a task object and that pattern instead of subclassing in the traditional way AjaxLongResponse is just an Ajax refreshing wrapper around a component content, but might fit better in an environment that is already doing Ajax-y things. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections? Thanks, Joe ___ There is probably some more documentation that can go into the use of this component. Actually, there is more than one choice for this. com.webobjects.woextensions.WOLongResponsePage (Apple version) er.ajax.AjaxLongResponse er.extensions.concurrency.ERXLongResponsePage (and ERXLongResponseTask) er.extensions.concurrency.ERXWOLongResponsePage com.webobjects.woextensions.WOLongResponsePage (Wonder version) So, there are three different flavors? Why "ERX" and "ERXWO" and "Ajax" of the same thing? Perhaps it is just a general rule for understanding Wonder: There are at least three ways of doing anything: ak-ish, ms-ish, and ch-ish. :-) It kind of makes as much sense as any other explanation - ray ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
I thought that as long as bytes are flowing that the request won't timeout. Isn't the adaptor timeout based on lack of activity? I'm with chuck --- I have an app that does enormous (multigig) uploada to a DA without any timeouts. ms Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:48 AM, "Chuck Hill" wrote: It has been a while since I implemented this. I think the "streamToFilePath" binding is what you need to use. What bindings are you using? Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Chuck, I hadn't considered that. I am using a direct action form post to handle the upload. - Joe On Jan 14, 2010, at 20:40:08, Chuck Hill wrote: Are you using the streaming handler for uploads? If you are, there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor. I've seen uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a very, very long time with no timeout. Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct? On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hello Joe; My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit in sequence into a stream. I haven't explicitly tested this from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from MacOS- X to move video files around. You could build something similar to this. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. cheers. Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40mdimension.com This email sent to msch...@mdimension.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
Hello Anjo; > When you have - say - two instances and two requests and the one isn't > finished when the second comes in, yeah, sure. But they close down when they > are done. Ok thanks for clarifying that; your account is different to how I had understood the system worked -- I had previously thought that the queueing occurred at the adaptor. All the opening and closing of sockets must be a wee bit of an overhead, but I guess it works out. cheers. ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
Am 15.01.2010 um 09:58 schrieb Andrew Lindesay: Does each apache handling thread eventually have an on-going connection to every instance in the deployment? Yes? No? Doesn't compute? When you have - say - two instances and two requests and the one isn't finished when the second comes in, yeah, sure. But they close down when they are done. Cheers, Anjo ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
Hello Anjo; Does each apache handling thread eventually have an on-going connection to every instance in the deployment? cheers. > The (apache) adaptor maintains a connection per-thread. So you can easily > have a slow and a fast request concurrently. Only when they land in the app, > depending on if you have CCR on or off they will queue up. ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
The (apache) adaptor maintains a connection per-thread. So you can easily have a slow and a fast request concurrently. Only when they land in the app, depending on if you have CCR on or off they will queue up. Cheers, Anjo Am 15.01.2010 um 09:21 schrieb Andrew Lindesay: Hello Chuck; Assuming an instance with concurrent request processing turned on, if there are a number of sessions (or even stateless users) on the same instance with a large volume of transactions, will the streaming WORequest multiplex with the other requests? My understanding was that the WebObjects adaptor queues requests into an instance rather than multiplexes them. So if a large transaction arrives from a slow pipe, will it not block the other requests until either the adaptor times it out or a response is returned to the client? PS: The javadoc for WORequests refers to the "wis" request handler -- I hadn't heard of this one before! cheers. Are you using the streaming handler for uploads? If you are, there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor. I've seen uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a very, very long time with no timeout. ... I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. ... In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/anjo%40krank.net This email sent to a...@krank.net ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
Hello Chuck; Assuming an instance with concurrent request processing turned on, if there are a number of sessions (or even stateless users) on the same instance with a large volume of transactions, will the streaming WORequest multiplex with the other requests? My understanding was that the WebObjects adaptor queues requests into an instance rather than multiplexes them. So if a large transaction arrives from a slow pipe, will it not block the other requests until either the adaptor times it out or a response is returned to the client? PS: The javadoc for WORequests refers to the "wis" request handler -- I hadn't heard of this one before! cheers. > Are you using the streaming handler for uploads? If you are, there should > not be any timeouts from the adaptor. I've seen uploads of large files over > slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a very, very long time with no > timeout. ... >>> I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using >>> that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. ... >> In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since >> WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
It has been a while since I implemented this. I think the "streamToFilePath" binding is what you need to use. What bindings are you using? Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Chuck, I hadn't considered that. I am using a direct action form post to handle the upload. - Joe On Jan 14, 2010, at 20:40:08, Chuck Hill wrote: Are you using the streaming handler for uploads? If you are, there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor. I've seen uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a very, very long time with no timeout. Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct? On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hello Joe; My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit in sequence into a stream. I haven't explicitly tested this from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from MacOS- X to move video files around. You could build something similar to this. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. cheers. Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
Chuck, I hadn't considered that. I am using a direct action form post to handle the upload. - Joe On Jan 14, 2010, at 20:40:08, Chuck Hill wrote: Are you using the streaming handler for uploads? If you are, there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor. I've seen uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a very, very long time with no timeout. Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct? On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hello Joe; My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit in sequence into a stream. I haven't explicitly tested this from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from MacOS-X to move video files around. You could build something similar to this. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. cheers. Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
Are you using the streaming handler for uploads? If you are, there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor. I've seen uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a very, very long time with no timeout. Chuck On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote: Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct? On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hello Joe; My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit in sequence into a stream. I haven't explicitly tested this from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from MacOS-X to move video files around. You could build something similar to this. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. cheers. Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct? On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hello Joe; My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit in sequence into a stream. I haven't explicitly tested this from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from MacOS-X to move video files around. You could build something similar to this. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. cheers. Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WO Long Response and iPhone
Hello Joe; My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit in sequence into a stream. I haven't explicitly tested this from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from MacOS-X to move video files around. You could build something similar to this. I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts. cheers. > Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload from say, an > iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer than the WO adaptor > time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five > or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections? ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
WO Long Response and iPhone
Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections? Thanks, Joe ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
