Re: What stands in the way becomes the way
On 17.04.2014, at 15:10, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote: Yeah, but one of the questions is about if we should subcontract the conference to Germany or Italy :-P +1 I really was more than disappointed that I could not attend this year's conference. Having the conference in Europe would be great. No need to have it that way all the years to come but the conference location could alternate between Europe and North America ---markus--- ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: What stands in the way becomes the way
I known, and I really have to restraint myself to not to do another batch of presentations :-/ I just won’t be the same if you don’t present at least three sessions! On 2014-04-16, 11:29 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: I'm gonna get kill, but I have said at WOWODC this year that I'm willing to organize it in Montreal again, as long as I'm not presenting (beside the State of the Community presentation, it takes 15 minutes to prepare) and we have the event manager. De: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com À: Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com Cc: WebObjects-Dev List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 16 Avril 2014 14:20:14 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way There will be another, and who knows? Maybe someone in Montreal will pick up the torch! On Apr 16, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: I will always be disappointed that I didn’t get to make a WOWODC in Montreal. Awesome community. I’m hoping I’ll still have an opportunity to attend something with WO’ers. This truly IS a great community. Tim UCLA GSEIS On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dev WO webobje...@anazys.com wrote: Hi Aaron, You did find something nice coming from France, lucky you:) I was just telling my wife that I'd like to test that setup and I got you're fat enough, no way in response;) So guess I won't buy that French product for the foreseeable future. WOWODC is clearly my best conference/community/favorite people, wherever will be next year, I'm in. Xavier Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.com AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40anazys.com This email sent to webobje...@anazys.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: What stands in the way becomes the way
Ok - please set the date so I can ensure my attendance this time!! On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:05 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote: I known, and I really have to restraint myself to not to do another batch of presentations :-/ I just won’t be the same if you don’t present at least three sessions! On 2014-04-16, 11:29 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: I'm gonna get kill, but I have said at WOWODC this year that I'm willing to organize it in Montreal again, as long as I'm not presenting (beside the State of the Community presentation, it takes 15 minutes to prepare) and we have the event manager. De: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com À: Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com Cc: WebObjects-Dev List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 16 Avril 2014 14:20:14 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way There will be another, and who knows? Maybe someone in Montreal will pick up the torch! On Apr 16, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: I will always be disappointed that I didn’t get to make a WOWODC in Montreal. Awesome community. I’m hoping I’ll still have an opportunity to attend something with WO’ers. This truly IS a great community. Tim UCLA GSEIS On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dev WO webobje...@anazys.com wrote: Hi Aaron, You did find something nice coming from France, lucky you:) I was just telling my wife that I'd like to test that setup and I got you're fat enough, no way in response;) So guess I won't buy that French product for the foreseeable future. WOWODC is clearly my best conference/community/favorite people, wherever will be next year, I'm in. Xavier Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.com AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40anazys.com This email sent to webobje...@anazys.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: What stands in the way becomes the way
I will prepare a survey this week-end, and one of the questions will be about what is the periods that people prefers. - Mail original - De: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com À: Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca Cc: Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net, WebObjects Development webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Jeudi 17 Avril 2014 08:59:48 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way Ok - please set the date so I can ensure my attendance this time!! On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:05 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote: I known, and I really have to restraint myself to not to do another batch of presentations :-/ I just won’t be the same if you don’t present at least three sessions! On 2014-04-16, 11:29 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: I'm gonna get kill, but I have said at WOWODC this year that I'm willing to organize it in Montreal again, as long as I'm not presenting (beside the State of the Community presentation, it takes 15 minutes to prepare) and we have the event manager. De: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com À: Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com Cc: WebObjects-Dev List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 16 Avril 2014 14:20:14 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way There will be another, and who knows? Maybe someone in Montreal will pick up the torch! On Apr 16, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: I will always be disappointed that I didn’t get to make a WOWODC in Montreal. Awesome community. I’m hoping I’ll still have an opportunity to attend something with WO’ers. This truly IS a great community. Tim UCLA GSEIS On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dev WO webobje...@anazys.com wrote: Hi Aaron, You did find something nice coming from France, lucky you:) I was just telling my wife that I'd like to test that setup and I got you're fat enough, no way in response;) So guess I won't buy that French product for the foreseeable future. WOWODC is clearly my best conference/community/favorite people, wherever will be next year, I'm in. Xavier Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.com AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40anazys.com This email sent to webobje...@anazys.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your
Re: What stands in the way becomes the way
Already planning the next conference, that’s the spirit! :-) Am 17.04.2014 um 15:01 schrieb Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca: I will prepare a survey this week-end, and one of the questions will be about what is the periods that people prefers. - Mail original - De: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com À: Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca Cc: Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net, WebObjects Development webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Jeudi 17 Avril 2014 08:59:48 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way Ok - please set the date so I can ensure my attendance this time!! On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:05 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote: I known, and I really have to restraint myself to not to do another batch of presentations :-/ I just won’t be the same if you don’t present at least three sessions! On 2014-04-16, 11:29 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: I'm gonna get kill, but I have said at WOWODC this year that I'm willing to organize it in Montreal again, as long as I'm not presenting (beside the State of the Community presentation, it takes 15 minutes to prepare) and we have the event manager. De: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com À: Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com Cc: WebObjects-Dev List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 16 Avril 2014 14:20:14 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way There will be another, and who knows? Maybe someone in Montreal will pick up the torch! On Apr 16, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: I will always be disappointed that I didn’t get to make a WOWODC in Montreal. Awesome community. I’m hoping I’ll still have an opportunity to attend something with WO’ers. This truly IS a great community. Tim UCLA GSEIS On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dev WO webobje...@anazys.com wrote: Hi Aaron, You did find something nice coming from France, lucky you:) I was just telling my wife that I'd like to test that setup and I got you're fat enough, no way in response;) So guess I won't buy that French product for the foreseeable future. WOWODC is clearly my best conference/community/favorite people, wherever will be next year, I'm in. Xavier Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.com AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40anazys.com This email sent to webobje...@anazys.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin
Re: What stands in the way becomes the way
Yeah, but one of the questions is about if we should subcontract the conference to Germany or Italy :-P - Mail original - De: Musall Maik m...@selbstdenker.ag À: WebObjects Development webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Jeudi 17 Avril 2014 09:05:48 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way Already planning the next conference, that’s the spirit! :-) Am 17.04.2014 um 15:01 schrieb Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca: I will prepare a survey this week-end, and one of the questions will be about what is the periods that people prefers. - Mail original - De: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com À: Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca Cc: Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net, WebObjects Development webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Jeudi 17 Avril 2014 08:59:48 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way Ok - please set the date so I can ensure my attendance this time!! On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:05 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote: I known, and I really have to restraint myself to not to do another batch of presentations :-/ I just won’t be the same if you don’t present at least three sessions! On 2014-04-16, 11:29 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: I'm gonna get kill, but I have said at WOWODC this year that I'm willing to organize it in Montreal again, as long as I'm not presenting (beside the State of the Community presentation, it takes 15 minutes to prepare) and we have the event manager. De: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com À: Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com Cc: WebObjects-Dev List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 16 Avril 2014 14:20:14 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way There will be another, and who knows? Maybe someone in Montreal will pick up the torch! On Apr 16, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: I will always be disappointed that I didn’t get to make a WOWODC in Montreal. Awesome community. I’m hoping I’ll still have an opportunity to attend something with WO’ers. This truly IS a great community. Tim UCLA GSEIS On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dev WO webobje...@anazys.com wrote: Hi Aaron, You did find something nice coming from France, lucky you:) I was just telling my wife that I'd like to test that setup and I got you're fat enough, no way in response;) So guess I won't buy that French product for the foreseeable future. WOWODC is clearly my best conference/community/favorite people, wherever will be next year, I'm in. Xavier Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.com AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40anazys.com This email sent to webobje...@anazys.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list
Re: What stands in the way becomes the way
Hi Aaron, You did find something nice coming from France, lucky you:) I was just telling my wife that I'd like to test that setup and I got you're fat enough, no way in response;) So guess I won't buy that French product for the foreseeable future. WOWODC is clearly my best conference/community/favorite people, wherever will be next year, I'm in. Xavier Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.com AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40anazys.com This email sent to webobje...@anazys.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: What stands in the way becomes the way
I will always be disappointed that I didn’t get to make a WOWODC in Montreal. Awesome community. I’m hoping I’ll still have an opportunity to attend something with WO’ers. This truly IS a great community. Tim UCLA GSEIS On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dev WO webobje...@anazys.com wrote: Hi Aaron, You did find something nice coming from France, lucky you:) I was just telling my wife that I'd like to test that setup and I got you're fat enough, no way in response;) So guess I won't buy that French product for the foreseeable future. WOWODC is clearly my best conference/community/favorite people, wherever will be next year, I'm in. Xavier Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.com AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40anazys.com This email sent to webobje...@anazys.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: What stands in the way becomes the way
There will be another, and who knows? Maybe someone in Montreal will pick up the torch! On Apr 16, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: I will always be disappointed that I didn’t get to make a WOWODC in Montreal. Awesome community. I’m hoping I’ll still have an opportunity to attend something with WO’ers. This truly IS a great community. Tim UCLA GSEIS On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dev WO webobje...@anazys.com wrote: Hi Aaron, You did find something nice coming from France, lucky you:) I was just telling my wife that I'd like to test that setup and I got you're fat enough, no way in response;) So guess I won't buy that French product for the foreseeable future. WOWODC is clearly my best conference/community/favorite people, wherever will be next year, I'm in. Xavier Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.com AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40anazys.com This email sent to webobje...@anazys.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I'm gonna get kill, but I have said at WOWODC this year that I'm willing to organize it in Montreal again, as long as I'm not presenting (beside the State of the Community presentation, it takes 15 minutes to prepare) and we have the event manager. - Mail original - De: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com À: Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com Cc: WebObjects-Dev List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 16 Avril 2014 14:20:14 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way There will be another, and who knows? Maybe someone in Montreal will pick up the torch! On Apr 16, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: I will always be disappointed that I didn’t get to make a WOWODC in Montreal. Awesome community. I’m hoping I’ll still have an opportunity to attend something with WO’ers. This truly IS a great community. Tim UCLA GSEIS On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dev WO webobje...@anazys.com wrote: blockquote Hi Aaron, You did find something nice coming from France, lucky you:) I was just telling my wife that I'd like to test that setup and I got you're fat enough, no way in response;) So guess I won't buy that French product for the foreseeable future. WOWODC is clearly my best conference/community/favorite people, wherever will be next year, I'm in. Xavier blockquote Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.com AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.com wrote: blockquote Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list ( Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com ) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40anazys.com This email sent to webobje...@anazys.com /blockquote ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list ( Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com ) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com /blockquote /blockquote blockquote ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list ( Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com ) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com /blockquote ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I just won’t be the same if you don’t present at least three sessions! On 2014-04-16, 11:29 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: I'm gonna get kill, but I have said at WOWODC this year that I'm willing to organize it in Montreal again, as long as I'm not presenting (beside the State of the Community presentation, it takes 15 minutes to prepare) and we have the event manager. De: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.commailto:kenli...@anderhome.com À: Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.commailto:li...@thetimmy.com Cc: WebObjects-Dev List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.commailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 16 Avril 2014 14:20:14 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way There will be another, and who knows? Maybe someone in Montreal will pick up the torch! On Apr 16, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.commailto:li...@thetimmy.com wrote: I will always be disappointed that I didn’t get to make a WOWODC in Montreal. Awesome community. I’m hoping I’ll still have an opportunity to attend something with WO’ers. This truly IS a great community. Tim UCLA GSEIS On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dev WO webobje...@anazys.commailto:webobje...@anazys.com wrote: Hi Aaron, You did find something nice coming from France, lucky you:) I was just telling my wife that I'd like to test that setup and I got you're fat enough, no way in response;) So guess I won't buy that French product for the foreseeable future. WOWODC is clearly my best conference/community/favorite people, wherever will be next year, I'm in. Xavier Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.comhttp://gravitonus.com/ AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bikehttp://www.chatnbike.com/ e: aa...@chatnbike.commailto:aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 [Chat 'n Bike] [Chat 'n Bike] On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.commailto:danielbea...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.commailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40anazys.com This email sent to webobje...@anazys.commailto:webobje...@anazys.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.commailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.commailto:li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.commailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.commailto:kenli...@anderhome.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.commailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.camailto:prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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If you don't mind traveling, I'm sure we could take turn in offering you refuge in between WOWODCs On Apr 16, 2014, at 14:29, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote: I'm gonna get kill, but I have said at WOWODC this year that I'm willing to organize it in Montreal again, as long as I'm not presenting (beside the State of the Community presentation, it takes 15 minutes to prepare) and we have the event manager. De: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com À: Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com Cc: WebObjects-Dev List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 16 Avril 2014 14:20:14 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way There will be another, and who knows? Maybe someone in Montreal will pick up the torch! On Apr 16, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: I will always be disappointed that I didn’t get to make a WOWODC in Montreal. Awesome community. I’m hoping I’ll still have an opportunity to attend something with WO’ers. This truly IS a great community. Tim UCLA GSEIS On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dev WO webobje...@anazys.com wrote: Hi Aaron, You did find something nice coming from France, lucky you:) I was just telling my wife that I'd like to test that setup and I got you're fat enough, no way in response;) So guess I won't buy that French product for the foreseeable future. WOWODC is clearly my best conference/community/favorite people, wherever will be next year, I'm in. Xavier Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.com AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40anazys.com This email sent to webobje...@anazys.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/louisdemers%40mac.com This email sent to louisdem...@mac.com Louis Demers eng. www.obzerv.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Hi gang, Well, it would be really awesome if I could the GSA in the USA to get me a setup like Aaron's. The best I could do to support something like WOWODC is work it for Las Vegas. Between Tim and myself, we may very well be the closest to sin city. V/R, Daniel D. Beatty, Ph.D., CSDP Senior Computer Scientist, Detonation Sciences Branch- NAWCWD 1 Administration Circle M/S 1109 China Lake, CA 93555 (760)939-7097 daniel.bea...@navy.mil From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com [webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com] on behalf of Louis Demers [louisdem...@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:00 PM To: Pascal Robert Cc: WebObjects-Dev List Subject: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way If you don't mind traveling, I'm sure we could take turn in offering you refuge in between WOWODCs On Apr 16, 2014, at 14:29, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote: I'm gonna get kill, but I have said at WOWODC this year that I'm willing to organize it in Montreal again, as long as I'm not presenting (beside the State of the Community presentation, it takes 15 minutes to prepare) and we have the event manager. De: Ken Anderson kenli...@anderhome.com À: Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com Cc: WebObjects-Dev List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 16 Avril 2014 14:20:14 Objet: Re: What stands in the way becomes the way There will be another, and who knows? Maybe someone in Montreal will pick up the torch! On Apr 16, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: I will always be disappointed that I didn’t get to make a WOWODC in Montreal. Awesome community. I’m hoping I’ll still have an opportunity to attend something with WO’ers. This truly IS a great community. Tim UCLA GSEIS On Apr 15, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dev WO webobje...@anazys.com wrote: Hi Aaron, You did find something nice coming from France, lucky you:) I was just telling my wife that I'd like to test that setup and I got you're fat enough, no way in response;) So guess I won't buy that French product for the foreseeable future. WOWODC is clearly my best conference/community/favorite people, wherever will be next year, I'm in. Xavier Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.com AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40anazys.com This email sent to webobje...@anazys.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca
Re: What stands in the way becomes the way
Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty On Apr 15, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Lon Varscsak lon.varsc...@gmail.com wrote: Did you stop off in Colorado for some recreation on your way home? ;) -Lon On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: I am now in “battle position” (see the two attached photos). Back from Quebec and slamming code. Thanks to all who attended and made this year another great gathering of minds and spirits. WOWODC in Montreal was a blast, perhaps a year from now we’ll all meet in Germany. Not all of us could attend this year, but many of us really wanted to. Here are many photos of various moments from the conference. Included is Dave Avendasora splitting a tree trunk in two with an axe: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ubzada5a4l7k7sn/W1LYmaVKoV Thanks to Maik Musall we have the state of the wocommunity video integrated with Pascal’s recognition ceremony. You can find that here: http://wocommunity.org/podcasts/wowodc/2014/StateOfTheCommunity.mp4 My presentation slides are available: http://www.chatnbike.com/presentation_existsQualifier/ Everyone is encouraged to think and reflect on what we are doing, and why we are here. A Roman emperor may have said it best: What stands in the way becomes the way” I looked it up, his name was Marcus Aurelius and his full statement was: The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way.” The modern version of this is: “When life gives you lemons, make some lemonade. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_life_gives_you_lemons,_make_lemonade It’s embodied in a country song from Garth Brooks called “Unanswered Prayers”: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/garthbrooks/unansweredprayers.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKqZjgIfxe0 Garth remembers his high school girlfriend whom he wanted to marry and be with forever but it was not to be. Years later he bumped into her and reflected on the way his life is now. He is so glad they didn’t get married. What does this have to do with WO? What does it have to do with us? We have enjoyed using a set of closed-source tools for many years. We’ve learned a lot and have solved real problems for real people. We must accept that these tools we love will never be open-sourced. But we are not simply a bunch of WO programmers. Rather, we are “real thinkers” who sometimes choose to use WO to help solve real problems. The key word is “choose” to use WO. Some of us will continue using the tools as they are for a few years. Others of us will make something even better. Others still will move on to other technology. I’m glad WO will never be free. Now that I’ve accepted this, I am free. “There is no knowledge which is not power!” Let’s take what we’ve learned and move forward. Let’s move beyond the borders of current reality. I hope many of us board the “treasure boat.” Others have already taken our treasures to the “seaside” or created a “montage” of new ideas infused with old. I love it all. (Those words have weight, google all three of them) Remember this! We can always tell the difference between a “want-to-be” and the “real deal.” “Want-to-bes” are drawn to stories of overnight success. They look for what “big names” are doing. They attempt to copy the success of the famous. They want fast cars and faster women. “Want-to-bes” look for shortcuts. They look for charismatic leaders. They drool to find the latest trick from the guru. They follow the common path and guess what? They get common results. “Want-to-bes” are fear driven. They are afraid of missing out. They hope to catch the next big wave just as it is starting and ride it through to riches with little work. They are scared but never admit it. “Want-to-bes” want to be taken care of and trust in somebody or something. “Real deals” overcome life’s many challenges. They sweat. They fail. They get up. They keep going. They drive a mini-van. If they have a fast car it probably has a “wankel” engine in it because it does more with less. If they have a trophy wife, she has brains and charms to match. “Real deals” look for mastery. They look for community. They look for “give and take.” They look for understanding the principles of success not just following someone’s previous steps of achieving it. They build friendships of mutual respect. A veritable brotherhood / sisterhood of champions covering for each other in battle. “Real deals” are fearless. They pathologically avoid mindless imitation. They are like Bruce lee: learn from everyone, take what makes sense to you, reject the rest, make your own style. They question, they break
Re: What stands in the way becomes the way
Wow... Sometimes, the only thing that gets me away from an long intense coding session is the need to go lie down... I'm afraid to think what would happen to me if I had this setup ... As for your thoughts, there is a lot to reflect on and digest... and I must say that this year, again, I was impressed by the quality of the membership and especially the presenters. Depth... Professionalism... Intelligence, Thanks. I felt privileged to have a front row seats to the technical discussion as well as those regarding the community. I too feel we finally matured about the situation around WO and are moving on. When I see all the new things people are doing, it certainly does not look to me like we are bound by the curent state of WO. Our real challenge will to find the critical mass of resources to push forward in whatever direction we choose. And maybe... that's because we are too busy producing stuff that works with exactly the tools we have now ! Thanks again to all. On Apr 15, 2014, at 15:24, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: I am now in “battle position” (see the two attached photos). Back from Quebec and slamming code. Thanks to all who attended and made this year another great gathering of minds and spirits. WOWODC in Montreal was a blast, perhaps a year from now we’ll all meet in Germany. Not all of us could attend this year, but many of us really wanted to. Here are many photos of various moments from the conference. Included is Dave Avendasora splitting a tree trunk in two with an axe: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ubzada5a4l7k7sn/W1LYmaVKoV Thanks to Maik Musall we have the state of the wocommunity video integrated with Pascal’s recognition ceremony. You can find that here: http://wocommunity.org/podcasts/wowodc/2014/StateOfTheCommunity.mp4 My presentation slides are available: http://www.chatnbike.com/presentation_existsQualifier/ Everyone is encouraged to think and reflect on what we are doing, and why we are here. A Roman emperor may have said it best: What stands in the way becomes the way” I looked it up, his name was Marcus Aurelius and his full statement was: The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way.” The modern version of this is: “When life gives you lemons, make some lemonade. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_life_gives_you_lemons,_make_lemonade It’s embodied in a country song from Garth Brooks called “Unanswered Prayers”: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/garthbrooks/unansweredprayers.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKqZjgIfxe0 Garth remembers his high school girlfriend whom he wanted to marry and be with forever but it was not to be. Years later he bumped into her and reflected on the way his life is now. He is so glad they didn’t get married. What does this have to do with WO? What does it have to do with us? We have enjoyed using a set of closed-source tools for many years. We’ve learned a lot and have solved real problems for real people. We must accept that these tools we love will never be open-sourced. But we are not simply a bunch of WO programmers. Rather, we are “real thinkers” who sometimes choose to use WO to help solve real problems. The key word is “choose” to use WO. Some of us will continue using the tools as they are for a few years. Others of us will make something even better. Others still will move on to other technology. I’m glad WO will never be free. Now that I’ve accepted this, I am free. “There is no knowledge which is not power!” Let’s take what we’ve learned and move forward. Let’s move beyond the borders of current reality. I hope many of us board the “treasure boat.” Others have already taken our treasures to the “seaside” or created a “montage” of new ideas infused with old. I love it all. (Those words have weight, google all three of them) Remember this! We can always tell the difference between a “want-to-be” and the “real deal.” “Want-to-bes” are drawn to stories of overnight success. They look for what “big names” are doing. They attempt to copy the success of the famous. They want fast cars and faster women. “Want-to-bes” look for shortcuts. They look for charismatic leaders. They drool to find the latest trick from the guru. They follow the common path and guess what? They get common results. “Want-to-bes” are fear driven. They are afraid of missing out. They hope to catch the next big wave just as it is starting and ride it through to riches with little work. They are scared but never admit it. “Want-to-bes” want to be taken care of and trust in somebody or something. “Real deals” overcome life’s many challenges. They sweat. They fail. They get up. They keep going. They drive a mini-van. If they have a fast car it probably has a “wankel” engine in it because it does more with less. If they have a trophy wife, she has brains
Re: What stands in the way becomes the way
Hi Dan, I got it from the “Healthy Back Store” so I guess it’s ok ;-) I spend most of my time in the “zero gravity” position. It’s kinda funny when you video conference with me. It looks like I’m on the space station. Hahah, sometimes when people come to service the furnace, etc. they assume I’m a vegetable. They have that look of pity on their face you know. Usually I just go with it, have some fun. Actually, sometimes I move the chair and adjust the arm to use it as a standing desk. Variation can be good. It comes from France, the brand is “La Fuma.” It should run around $150 USD. It is meant to be an outdoor chair but I use it indoors. It’s a folding chair that can be moved out of the way or taken with you. The “lacing” breaks every 6 months from daily use. It’s like a long shoe-lace. It’s basically the poor man’s gravitonus: http://gravitonus.com AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Beatty danielbea...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I love the chair Aaron has in the picture. If you don't mind me asking, how is it for the back? Do they make versions of that chair for people with really bad backs with an addiction to WebObjects and WOnder? V/R, Dan Beatty ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
