[libreoffice-website] Re: Increasing Donations
Le 09/04/13 02:54 PM, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi, Simon Phipps wrote on 2013-04-09 18:53: Here's a simple tip from Eclipse on how to increase donations: Ask for a donation when the download is occurring, not when a user is browsing the project site. http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/how-to-increase-donations-to-an-open-source-project/ I just started hacking a simple download script. I am really no developer, so it is really just a very very quick shot, but how about that: From the official download page, we currently redirect to download.documentfoundation.org which involves MirrorBrain. Making MirrorBrain show something while downloading does not work easily. However, how about we simply changed that link to some redirection script, that first shows the download page and then invokes the download itself? Here's how this could look like: http://kermit.documentfoundation.org/DownloadRedirect.php?target=http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.2/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.0.2_Win_x86.msi @Admins: Feel free to have a look at the PHP script. I am *really* no developer, so please don't laugh. ;-) You'll find it in /var/www/sites/kermit.documentfoundation.org/DownloadRedirect.php Thoughts? Florian As far as script goes, I have not comment, I can play hockey better than code ... you haven't seen me play hockey, but when you do, you will know that I am no coder! As far as the plea for donation ... I always prefer also seeing a statement along the line of Any amount, of any size, will be put to great use and is very appreciated. We thank you for your continued support. Anyway, the important part is that we stress that any amount will help and we should always be benevolent, and thank people ... ahem ... in advance. These two items are a reflection of some of the ideals of our community. From a marketing point of view: IMO, as a community member, it would be neat if we could decide to tie downloading to joining our community by default. That is to say that one of the conditions of downloading our community project is that the person downloading LibreOffice has agreed that they have tacitly joined the LibreOffice community. Then we could have a Welcome to the LibreOffice community message at the download point and then offer the downloader a page with our community definition as well as a plea for financial and contributing support. We would not enforce it, but it would still be neat to view our project as more of a community project where we have by default or by result a software programme that we develop and use as a group. This would then open our community to take on more than one piece of software if we wanted, and to claim that a consensual use of the software by the community. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Publication request for http://donate.libreoffice.org/it
Il 08/04/2013 13:59, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto: I usually wait for Rimas to do and export and send me the php files that are the result of the export. If it is only a few strings, I might add them manually if you provide it in the php-form... https://github.com/tdf/cms-code/blob/master/mysite/lang/it_IT.php ciao Christian Thank you Christian, Attached you can find the original file and the completely translated file (I suppose these files are just text files, ok?). Anyway the strings to change are only 4 (at the beginning of the file), from Button_Card to Custom_Choice, as below: - - - $lang['it_IT']['DonatePage']['BUTTON_CARD'] ='Dona con Carta di Credito'; $lang['it_IT']['DonatePage']['BUTTON_PAYPAL'] ='Dona con PayPal'; $lang['it_IT']['DonatePage']['CHOICE_DEFAULT']='Selezionate uno degli importi predefiniti'; $lang['it_IT']['DonatePage']['CUSTOM_CHOICE'] ='Oppure indicate un importo personalizzato ed una valutabr/(solo quelle recanti un * sono disponibili tramite PayPal)'; - - - Thanks! Luca :) -- cico Icq/Licq/Gaim #175451007 Debian Powered Linux Registered User #310800 at http://counter.li.org No retreat baby no surrender http://www.retenergie.it - coop di produttori e utilizzatori di energia da fonti rinnovabili tad evaarthamaatra-nirbhaasaM svaruupa-shuunyam iva samaadhiH Sanskrit - Realize it's the common language ;-) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Donate site and English (US)
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 09/04/13 01:24 PM, Dave Johnson a écrit : In terms of spelling... North American English or British English, which version are you preferring? If you don't like the reference to the US for the sake of opinion... Lets stick with North American English then. Sent from my iPad We have no nl EN groups and use international-EN as our base by convention, I've never heard of International-EN, but I'll go read up on it now :-) It would be as if we had put FR-CA, and ES-CO as language designation which we do not do. Just as a point of clarification, I believe that en-US is a very common default in many FOSS distros or software packages, so I think that in this case there might be some justification based on consistency. Personally, 'International-EN' sounds like a fine choice. Therefore by simple logic EN should also follow the same format as the rest of the language choices. That seems reasonable to me. If we do have just one version of the text for all English-speaking visitors, we should put an emphasis on clarity and try to avoid idiomatic phrases or country-specific vocabulary that could be confusing to a chunk of our native English speakers. --R -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Donate site and English (US)
International English sounds great. Just did my research. Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2013, at 18:28, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 09/04/13 01:24 PM, Dave Johnson a écrit : In terms of spelling... North American English or British English, which version are you preferring? If you don't like the reference to the US for the sake of opinion... Lets stick with North American English then. Sent from my iPad We have no nl EN groups and use international-EN as our base by convention, I've never heard of International-EN, but I'll go read up on it now :-) It would be as if we had put FR-CA, and ES-CO as language designation which we do not do. Just as a point of clarification, I believe that en-US is a very common default in many FOSS distros or software packages, so I think that in this case there might be some justification based on consistency. Personally, 'International-EN' sounds like a fine choice. Therefore by simple logic EN should also follow the same format as the rest of the language choices. That seems reasonable to me. If we do have just one version of the text for all English-speaking visitors, we should put an emphasis on clarity and try to avoid idiomatic phrases or country-specific vocabulary that could be confusing to a chunk of our native English speakers. --R -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Donate site and English (US)
The major difference in many of the versions of English seems to be the spelling of some specific words. color vs. colour, and things like that. If you want to figure out what would be best, you might want to go from that point of view. Here in the USA, if you spelled the word colour you would be looked at funny. I know I was when I spelled it that way and showed my teacher that that was the first and default spelling in the 10 pound worth of dictionary I was using. So if you create a document that is based on an International English you will need to know which spellings of which words are acceptable in the region your are using that document/documentation. English [generic] and International English may or may not be the same thing. The only thing you can do is try and see how well it works. Also, the use of en-US for many of the International Documentation may be geared by the population spread of the various types or versions of English. How many people in the USA speak English. How many in Europe? Then which would be preferred to be used. On 04/09/2013 09:19 PM, Dave Johnson wrote: International English sounds great. Just did my research. Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2013, at 18:28, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 09/04/13 01:24 PM, Dave Johnson a écrit : In terms of spelling... North American English or British English, which version are you preferring? If you don't like the reference to the US for the sake of opinion... Lets stick with North American English then. Sent from my iPad We have no nl EN groups and use international-EN as our base by convention, I've never heard of International-EN, but I'll go read up on it now :-) It would be as if we had put FR-CA, and ES-CO as language designation which we do not do. Just as a point of clarification, I believe that en-US is a very common default in many FOSS distros or software packages, so I think that in this case there might be some justification based on consistency. Personally, 'International-EN' sounds like a fine choice. Therefore by simple logic EN should also follow the same format as the rest of the language choices. That seems reasonable to me. If we do have just one version of the text for all English-speaking visitors, we should put an emphasis on clarity and try to avoid idiomatic phrases or country-specific vocabulary that could be confusing to a chunk of our native English speakers. --R -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Increasing Donations
Hi Marc, Marc Paré wrote on 2013-04-09 23:31: As far as script goes, I have not comment, I can play hockey better than code ... you haven't seen me play hockey, but when you do, you will know that I am no coder! Canadian? Hockey? That rings a bell for me ;-) As far as the plea for donation ... I always prefer also seeing a statement along the line of Any amount, of any size, will be put to great use and is very appreciated. We thank you for your continued support. Anyway, the important part is that we stress that any amount will help and we should always be benevolent, and thank people ... ahem ... in advance. These two items are a reflection of some of the ideals of our community. IMHO, that's both included in the donate page. Maybe it's a bit long to be seen at first glance, but it's not so much about the page, rather about the idea behind my little script. We can show any page we want, just the download process would be similar: First the donate page is opened, and then the download starts. IMO, as a community member, it would be neat if we could decide to tie downloading to joining our community by default. That is to say that one of the conditions of downloading our community project is that the person downloading LibreOffice has agreed that they have tacitly joined the LibreOffice community. Then we could have a Welcome to the LibreOffice community message at the download point and then offer the downloader a page with our community definition as well as a plea for financial and contributing support. We would not enforce it, but it would still be neat to view our project as more of a community project where we have by default or by result a software programme that we develop and use as a group. This would then open our community to take on more than one piece of software if we wanted, and to claim that a consensual use of the software by the community. I think it depends on the exact wording, otherwise people might feel obliged. ;-) Mentioning that you can contribute by becoming a community member, or by donating makes sense, of course. Florian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted