[libreoffice-website] Re: Increasing Donations

2013-04-09 Thread Marc Paré

Le 09/04/13 02:54 PM, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hi,

Simon Phipps wrote on 2013-04-09 18:53:

Here's a simple tip from Eclipse on how to increase donations:  Ask
for a
donation when the download is occurring, not when a user is browsing the
project site.
http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/how-to-increase-donations-to-an-open-source-project/



I just started hacking a simple download script. I am really no
developer, so it is really just a very very quick shot, but how about that:

 From the official download page, we currently redirect to
download.documentfoundation.org which involves MirrorBrain. Making
MirrorBrain show something while downloading does not work easily.

However, how about we simply changed that link to some redirection
script, that first shows the download page and then invokes the download
itself?

Here's how this could look like:
http://kermit.documentfoundation.org/DownloadRedirect.php?target=http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.2/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.0.2_Win_x86.msi


@Admins: Feel free to have a look at the PHP script. I am *really* no
developer, so please don't laugh. ;-) You'll find it in
/var/www/sites/kermit.documentfoundation.org/DownloadRedirect.php

Thoughts?
Florian



As far as script goes, I have not comment, I can play hockey better than 
code ... you haven't seen me play hockey, but when you do, you will know 
that I am no coder!


As far as the plea for donation ... I always prefer also seeing a 
statement along the line of Any amount, of any size, will be put to 
great use and is very appreciated. We thank you for your continued support.


Anyway, the important part is that we stress that any amount will help 
and we should always be benevolent, and thank people ... ahem ... in 
advance. These two items are a reflection of some of the ideals of our 
community.


From a marketing point of view:

IMO, as a community member, it would be neat if we could decide to tie 
downloading to joining our community by default. That is to say that one 
of the conditions of downloading our community project is that the 
person downloading LibreOffice has agreed that they have tacitly 
joined the LibreOffice community. Then we could have a Welcome to the 
LibreOffice community message at the download point and then offer the 
downloader a page with our community definition as well as a plea for 
financial and contributing support. We would not enforce it, but it 
would still be neat to view our project as more of a community project 
where we have by default or by result a software programme that we 
develop and use as a group. This would then open our community to take 
on more than one piece of software if we wanted, and to claim that a 
consensual use of the software by the community.


Cheers,

Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Publication request for http://donate.libreoffice.org/it

2013-04-09 Thread elcico2001 एल्चिको

Il 08/04/2013 13:59, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto:


I usually wait for Rimas to do and export and send me the php files
that are the result of the export. If it is only a few strings, I
might add them manually if you provide it in the php-form...

https://github.com/tdf/cms-code/blob/master/mysite/lang/it_IT.php

ciao
Christian

   

Thank you Christian,
Attached you can find the original file and the completely translated 
file (I suppose these files are just text files, ok?).
Anyway the strings to change are only 4 (at the beginning of the file), 
from Button_Card to Custom_Choice, as below:


 - - -

$lang['it_IT']['DonatePage']['BUTTON_CARD'] ='Dona con Carta di Credito';
$lang['it_IT']['DonatePage']['BUTTON_PAYPAL'] ='Dona con PayPal';
$lang['it_IT']['DonatePage']['CHOICE_DEFAULT']='Selezionate uno degli 
importi predefiniti';
$lang['it_IT']['DonatePage']['CUSTOM_CHOICE'] ='Oppure indicate un 
importo personalizzato ed una valutabr/(solo quelle recanti un * sono 
disponibili tramite PayPal)';


 - - -

Thanks!
Luca :)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Donate site and English (US)

2013-04-09 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Le 09/04/13 01:24 PM, Dave Johnson a écrit :

 In terms of spelling... North American English or British English, which
 version are you preferring? If you don't like the reference to the US for
 the sake of opinion... Lets stick with North American English then.

 Sent from my iPad


 We have no nl EN groups and use international-EN as our base by convention,

I've never heard of International-EN, but I'll go read up on it now :-)

 It would be as if we had put FR-CA, and ES-CO as language designation which
 we do not do.

Just as a point of clarification, I believe that en-US is a very
common default in many FOSS distros or software packages, so I think
that in this case there might be some justification based on
consistency. Personally, 'International-EN' sounds like a fine choice.

 Therefore by simple logic EN should also follow the same
 format as the rest of the language choices.

That seems reasonable to me. If we do have just one version of the
text for all English-speaking visitors, we should put an emphasis on
clarity and try to avoid idiomatic phrases or country-specific
vocabulary that could be confusing to a chunk of our native English
speakers.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Donate site and English (US)

2013-04-09 Thread Dave Johnson
International English sounds great. Just did my research.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 9, 2013, at 18:28, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Le 09/04/13 01:24 PM, Dave Johnson a écrit :
 
 In terms of spelling... North American English or British English, which
 version are you preferring? If you don't like the reference to the US for
 the sake of opinion... Lets stick with North American English then.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 We have no nl EN groups and use international-EN as our base by convention,
 
 I've never heard of International-EN, but I'll go read up on it now :-)
 
 It would be as if we had put FR-CA, and ES-CO as language designation which
 we do not do.
 
 Just as a point of clarification, I believe that en-US is a very
 common default in many FOSS distros or software packages, so I think
 that in this case there might be some justification based on
 consistency. Personally, 'International-EN' sounds like a fine choice.
 
 Therefore by simple logic EN should also follow the same
 format as the rest of the language choices.
 
 That seems reasonable to me. If we do have just one version of the
 text for all English-speaking visitors, we should put an emphasis on
 clarity and try to avoid idiomatic phrases or country-specific
 vocabulary that could be confusing to a chunk of our native English
 speakers.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Donate site and English (US)

2013-04-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


The major difference in many of the versions of English seems to be the 
spelling of some specific words.

color vs. colour, and things like that.

If you want to figure out what would be best, you might want to go from 
that point of view.


Here in the USA, if you spelled the word colour you would be looked at 
funny.  I know I was when I spelled it that way and showed my teacher 
that that was the first and default spelling in the 10 pound worth of 
dictionary I was using.


So if you create a document that is based on an International English 
you will need to know which spellings of which words are acceptable in 
the region your are using that document/documentation.


English [generic] and International English may or may not be the same 
thing.


The only thing you can do is try and see how well it works.

Also, the use of en-US for many of the International Documentation may 
be geared by the population spread of the various types or versions of 
English.  How many people in the USA speak English. How many in 
Europe?   Then which would be preferred to be used.



On 04/09/2013 09:19 PM, Dave Johnson wrote:

International English sounds great. Just did my research.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 9, 2013, at 18:28, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote:


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:

Le 09/04/13 01:24 PM, Dave Johnson a écrit :


In terms of spelling... North American English or British English, which
version are you preferring? If you don't like the reference to the US for
the sake of opinion... Lets stick with North American English then.

Sent from my iPad

We have no nl EN groups and use international-EN as our base by convention,

I've never heard of International-EN, but I'll go read up on it now :-)


It would be as if we had put FR-CA, and ES-CO as language designation which
we do not do.

Just as a point of clarification, I believe that en-US is a very
common default in many FOSS distros or software packages, so I think
that in this case there might be some justification based on
consistency. Personally, 'International-EN' sounds like a fine choice.


Therefore by simple logic EN should also follow the same
format as the rest of the language choices.

That seems reasonable to me. If we do have just one version of the
text for all English-speaking visitors, we should put an emphasis on
clarity and try to avoid idiomatic phrases or country-specific
vocabulary that could be confusing to a chunk of our native English
speakers.

--R

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Increasing Donations

2013-04-09 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 2013-04-09 23:31:


As far as script goes, I have not comment, I can play hockey better than
code ... you haven't seen me play hockey, but when you do, you will know
that I am no coder!


Canadian? Hockey? That rings a bell for me ;-)


As far as the plea for donation ... I always prefer also seeing a
statement along the line of Any amount, of any size, will be put to
great use and is very appreciated. We thank you for your continued
support.

Anyway, the important part is that we stress that any amount will help
and we should always be benevolent, and thank people ... ahem ... in
advance. These two items are a reflection of some of the ideals of our
community.


IMHO, that's both included in the donate page. Maybe it's a bit long to 
be seen at first glance, but it's not so much about the page, rather 
about the idea behind my little script. We can show any page we want, 
just the download process would be similar: First the donate page is 
opened, and then the download starts.



IMO, as a community member, it would be neat if we could decide to tie
downloading to joining our community by default. That is to say that one
of the conditions of downloading our community project is that the
person downloading LibreOffice has agreed that they have tacitly
joined the LibreOffice community. Then we could have a Welcome to the
LibreOffice community message at the download point and then offer the
downloader a page with our community definition as well as a plea for
financial and contributing support. We would not enforce it, but it
would still be neat to view our project as more of a community project
where we have by default or by result a software programme that we
develop and use as a group. This would then open our community to take
on more than one piece of software if we wanted, and to claim that a
consensual use of the software by the community.


I think it depends on the exact wording, otherwise people might feel 
obliged. ;-) Mentioning that you can contribute by becoming a community 
member, or by donating makes sense, of course.


Florian

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