[libreoffice-website] need copy of new theme on Wiki page for the NA-DVD
I saw the change in the menu bar theme colors and design. see - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications I would like to have a copy of this theme for the NA-DVD web pages. I like this new lighter green menu bar theme over the older style of dark green. The NA-DVD web-based pages currently uses the same dark green menu bar theme as most of the LO web pages use. like - http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=4.0.3 But the newer Wiki light green theme colors are easier to read, or at least for me. Originally I just viewed the web page source and found the needed style sheet theme locations and downloaded them. I cannot get this type of information from the Wiki pages, or so it seems. Any help? I would like to keep up with the color and theme changes the were created for the 4.x.x version of LibreOffice. This is the section [and sub subtions] of the NA-DVD that has the second menu bar, along with the first/top one. see - http://libreoffice-na.us/English-4.0-installs/module.html All of the rest of the pages show the single menu bar. see - http://libreoffice-na.us/English-4.0-installs/documentation.html -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] an black list has an IP address on it that LO uses now
Hi, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote on 2013-06-02 16:55: How long will it take to do the full process? Even if it was fixed at the black listing company, it would take weeks or months for all the different users of that list to update their copy of the list or report. I had one Hosting account change where it took over 2 weeks for my Internet access company to update their DNS/routing system to reflect the change in the DNS listing to match my domain name to the hosting company's server[s]. Of course, that was over 10 years ago, before I switched to one company for both domain name and web hosting. thanks a lot for compiling this information, this was really useful! So, in fact, it seems to be the IP of bilbo2, the new server for mailing lists, has been blacklisted on APEWS, years before TDF was created, so it's not us being the reason for this. I researched a little, and it seems APEWS is a rather aggressive blacklist that does not offer an option for delisting - in the end, there's very little we can do. You should talk to your ISP whether it makes sense to rely on this blacklist, as they seem to be blacking wide ranges of IPs. The reason why you are experiencing this now is - apart from bilbo2 being a new server with a new IP address - that mlmmj (the mailing list software) has proper bounce handling, which didn't work before, so you would have not received this error. I must confess I don't know why only some mails are rejected. Either not all of your ISPs servers use APEWS the same way, or some mails are delivered via IPv6, where our address is not blacklisted. Sorry I can't do much here - relying on APEWS for filtering seems to be bad, as it doesn't allow ISPs to delist directly. :/ Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] an black list has an IP address on it that LO uses now
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: It starts with a date before TDF/LO was even started or needed a web site or hosting company. Yes, it should be dealt with by the company that is leasing the IP address to TDF, or so I was told by the tech support people who uses that black list. He cannot figure out why anyone would black list any IP address that is used by LO. He is a LO user. I think there was some trouble with a holder of several of the 5.x.x.x IP address. It seems to read, from the black list company report, that there was problems with the original user of the IP address [s] or maybe how fast the leasing company dealt with the problems. What ever caused that IP address LO uses to be black listed, it should be cleared up for a new user to lease it without them being black listed for someone else's issues/problems. How long will it take to do the full process? Even if it was fixed at the black listing company, it would take weeks or months for all the different users of that list to update their copy of the list or report. I had one Hosting account change where it took over 2 weeks for my Internet access company to update their DNS/routing system to reflect the change in the DNS listing to match my domain name to the hosting company's server[s]. Of course, that was over 10 years ago, before I switched to one company for both domain name and web hosting. I had the same issue with the public ip my isp had given me for my business line. I contacted them to let them know that it was black listed and it was quickly resolved. I think at this point Florian would need to file a support request letting hetzner know the ips in question and informing them the date that ip address was black listed was prior to the ip being given to the TDF and they should immediately get it resolved. I just did a check on apews.org and non of the domains are coming up as being black listed so it seems the ip addresses have already been removed. -- Jonathan Aquilina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] need copy of new theme on Wiki page for the NA-DVD
Hi, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote on 2013-06-03 09:33: I saw the change in the menu bar theme colors and design. see - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications I would like to have a copy of this theme for the NA-DVD web pages. are you talking about the wiki content, or the wiki theme? The latter one is the original MediaWiki vector theme as bundled with recent versions, we didn't incorporate any changes (thus it's now blue instead of green). As for the content itself, I don't know if there has been a change recently. Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] an black list has an IP address on it that LO uses now
Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-06-03 09:44: I had the same issue with the public ip my isp had given me for my business line. I contacted them to let them know that it was black listed and it was quickly resolved. I think at this point Florian would need to file a support request letting hetzner know the ips in question and informing them the date that ip address was black listed was prior to the ip being given to the TDF and they should immediately get it resolved. I think Hetzner has no other options than I do - APEWS simply does not offer delisting, it not even has a point of contact. Some had success with posting on the Usenet or in a blog, but it looks tedious and may take quite a while - Hetzner has no other options here. The problem lies somewhere else: Using APEWS is simply not a good choice, it seems, so it's sad Tim's ISP is blocking based on it. I checked the Hetzner customer forum, and the APEWS problem is known - even the Hetzner CEO himself said, using APEWS is discouraged and there is no known way to get delisted. I just did a check on apews.org and non of the domains are coming up as being black listed so it seems the ip addresses have already been removed. DNSBLs work on an IP basis, not on a domain basis. Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] an black list has an IP address on it that LO uses now
The one from the Mlmmj program stating there was bounced email states: This is very worrying if emails are being bounced back when rejected through mlmmj. Florian is it possible to just have them be discarded when rejected? -- Jonathan Aquilina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] an black list has an IP address on it that LO uses now
On 06/03/2013 03:44 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com mailto:webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: It starts with a date before TDF/LO was even started or needed a web site or hosting company. Yes, it should be dealt with by the company that is leasing the IP address to TDF, or so I was told by the tech support people who uses that black list. He cannot figure out why anyone would black list any IP address that is used by LO. He is a LO user. I think there was some trouble with a holder of several of the 5.x.x.x IP address. It seems to read, from the black list company report, that there was problems with the original user of the IP address [s] or maybe how fast the leasing company dealt with the problems. What ever caused that IP address LO uses to be black listed, it should be cleared up for a new user to lease it without them being black listed for someone else's issues/problems. How long will it take to do the full process? Even if it was fixed at the black listing company, it would take weeks or months for all the different users of that list to update their copy of the list or report. I had one Hosting account change where it took over 2 weeks for my Internet access company to update their DNS/routing system to reflect the change in the DNS listing to match my domain name to the hosting company's server[s]. Of course, that was over 10 years ago, before I switched to one company for both domain name and web hosting. I had the same issue with the public ip my isp had given me for my business line. I contacted them to let them know that it was black listed and it was quickly resolved. I think at this point Florian would need to file a support request letting hetzner know the ips in question and informing them the date that ip address was black listed was prior to the ip being given to the TDF and they should immediately get it resolved. I just did a check on apews.org http://apews.org and non of the domains are coming up as being black listed so it seems the ip addresses have already been removed. -- Jonathan Aquilina I did my check directly on the IP address of the affected server/hardware. I was told, by my email hosting tech support person, to check the IP address shown in the header of the emails that are affected. The one from the Mlmmj program stating there was bounced email states: Received: from unknown (HELO p3pismtp01-021.prod.phx3.secureserver.net) ([10.6.12.26]) Received: from bilbo2.documentfoundation.org ([5.9.148.85]) Received: from bilbo2.documentfoundation.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) The email posts that get through do not have the bilbo2 5.9.148.85 in the header: Received: from unknown (HELO p3plibsmtp01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net) ([10.6.12.174]) Received: from mail-wg0-f48.google.com ([74.125.82.48]) The 10.6.12.26 is the IP address of the email server/service my hosting/email/domain company uses. I would need to have someone check the header of one of the bounced emails, say one of the following bounced ones. [list email - email reference number] des...@global.libreoffice.org - 5907 us...@global.libreoffice.org - 30564 website@global.libreoffice.org - 11173, 11175, 11176, 11174 Then we can see what is in the header that might be causing the bouncing. The email tech support guy would like to see the header and help figure out that is causing their server to bounce it - according to the black list references. Currently, if I look up the 5.9.148.85 IP at the apews.org site, it tells me that that IP address is blocked and why. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] an black list has an IP address on it that LO uses now
Hi, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote on 2013-06-03 11:08: I would need to have someone check the header of one of the bounced emails, say one of the following bounced ones. [list email - email reference number] des...@global.libreoffice.org - 5907 us...@global.libreoffice.org - 30564 website@global.libreoffice.org - 11173, 11175, 11176, 11174 you can get these e-mails with all headers from any subscribed address by sending an e-mail to listname+get...@global.libreoffice.org e.g. design+get-5...@global.libreoffice.org Would be interesting to know if the mail gets delivered then. :-) Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Gerrit migration on June 19th
Hello, Alex, Robert and I plan to do a smooth migration from LXC to KVM based virtual machines. Steps involved are recreating all production VMs in KVM in parallel (we have enough IPs available), then shutting down LXC, then upgrading the host system. Luckily, with KVM, the base OS and kernel of the guest does not need to fit the one of the host. For working on the gerrit migration, we have scheduled Wednesday, June 19th, at about 1600 UTC Depending on how far we get, we'd directly switch the machines on that evening. Is there any critical blocker for the above timetable? Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] need copy of new theme on Wiki page for the NA-DVD
On 06/03/2013 03:46 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote on 2013-06-03 09:33:
I saw the change in the menu bar theme colors and design.
see - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
I would like to have a copy of this theme for the NA-DVD web pages.
are you talking about the wiki content, or the wiki theme? The latter
one is the original MediaWiki vector theme as bundled with recent
versions, we didn't incorporate any changes (thus it's now blue
instead of green). As for the content itself, I don't know if there
has been a change recently.
Florian
[if I am not stating my needs properly - it is because I started
emailing in the wee hours of the morning. I could not sleep so I have
been up since about 3am and it is now 5:33 am. Need to get a few hours
of sleep now, hopefully]
at - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
It shows Documentation/Publications
Documentation
Then is shows three menu bars. This menu bar theme is different than
the one[s] viewed a few months ago, which was a darker green menu bar
theme matching the http://www.libreoffice.org/features/ page theme.
I would like to change the menu bar theme color for the NA-DVD to this
new [better maybe] theme color that the Wiki pages show, that cannot be
edited but is shown in the content as {{TopMenu}} {{Menu}}
{{Menu.Documentation}} {{OrigLang|}}. The {TopMenu} and {Menu}
theme colors are not editable unless you have the logo on abilities for
the folder[s] where these menu themecommands are stored.
I updated the NA-DVD theme when the LO web site page themes went the the
new dark green menu theme. I copied all of the information in the
theme folder[s] like /themes/css/layout.css, /typography.css, and
form.css. Plus the image folders aswell in the theme folder.
When LO changed to the dark green theme, I did. Now the Wiki pages have
a different color theme that uses the new Green 4.0 color as part of the
new theme.
--
I used the following tags in the NA-DVD page[s] that used only one
menu bar.
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=themes/css/layout.css
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=themes/css/typography.css
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=themes/css/form.css
ul id=FirstNavigation
lia href=index.html class=linkspanInfo/span/abr /li
lia href=install.html class=linkspanInstall/span/a/li
lia href=module.html class=linkspanModule/span/a/li
lia href=extensions.html
class=linkspanExtensions/span/a/li
lia href=templates.html class=linkspanTemplates/span/a/li
lia href=dictionary.html
class=linkspanDictionaries/span/a/li
lia href=extras.html class=linkspanExtras/span/a/li
lia href=documentation.html
class=currentspanDocumentation/span/a/li
lia href=artwork.html class=linkspanArtwork/span/a/li
/ul
AND the second menu bar tags for those pages the used it, like
module.html and the files listed in the SecondNavigation list.
ul id=SecondNavigation
lia href=writer.html class=linkspanWriter/span/a/li
lia href=calc.html class=linkspanCalc/span/a/li
lia href=impress.html class=linkspanImpress/span/a/li
lia href=draw.html class=linkspanDraw/span/a/li
lia href=base.html class=linkspanBase/span/a/li
lia href=math.html class=linkspanMath/span/a/li
/ul
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Re: [libreoffice-website] need copy of new theme on Wiki page for the NA-DVD
Hi,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote on 2013-06-03 11:33:
[if I am not stating my needs properly - it is because I started
emailing in the wee hours of the morning. I could not sleep so I have
been up since about 3am and it is now 5:33 am. Need to get a few hours
of sleep now, hopefully]
oh, you poor one - get some sleep! I know how I feel when I was woke up
all night long...
at - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
It shows Documentation/Publications
Documentation
Then is shows three menu bars. This menu bar theme is different than
the one[s] viewed a few months ago, which was a darker green menu bar
theme matching the http://www.libreoffice.org/features/ page theme.
Ah, ok, so then it's (technically spoken) the page content, not the
wiki's theme itself. Last author of that page is Jean, maybe she has
some insight on how it was done?
I would like to change the menu bar theme color for the NA-DVD to this
new [better maybe] theme color that the Wiki pages show, that cannot be
edited but is shown in the content as {{TopMenu}} {{Menu}}
{{Menu.Documentation}} {{OrigLang|}}. The {TopMenu} and {Menu}
Those pages are templates and can be opened e.g. with
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Template:Menu.Documentation - you
need to view the page source to get the actual content, e.g. via
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/WikiAction/edit/Template:Menu.Documentation
Hope that helps,
Florian
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Re: [libreoffice-website] an black list has an IP address on it that LO uses now
Hi *, On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: [..] The email posts that get through do not have the bilbo2 5.9.148.85 in the header: Received: from unknown (HELO p3plibsmtp01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net) ([10.6.12.174]) Received: from mail-wg0-f48.google.com ([74.125.82.48]) This then looks like a direct reply, when people reply using reply to all, so it is sent directly to you, and not to the mailinglist. That mail then doesn't have the mailing-list specific headers¹, and also no automatically added mailing-list footer². ciao Christian [1] Headers like Archived-At: http://go.mail-archive.com/BxKzmDy483U448OFYDBoYv-Ce7A= Errors-To: postmas...@documentfoundation.org Precedence: list List-Id: website.global.libreoffice.org List-Unsubscribe: mailto:website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org List-Archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ List-Post: mailto:website@global.libreoffice.org List-Help: mailto:website+h...@global.libreoffice.org List-Subscribe: mailto:website+subscr...@global.libreoffice.org List-Owner: mailto:postmas...@documentfoundation.org [2] the signature text to unsubscribe email to text at the bottom of the mail -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] an black list has an IP address on it that LO uses now
Hi Florian, *, On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: [...] I researched a little, and it seems APEWS is a rather aggressive blacklist that does not offer an option for delisting - in the end, there's very little we can do. You should talk to your ISP whether it makes sense to rely on this blacklist, as they seem to be blacking wide ranges of IPs. I also had a look at their website (© 2006-2010 by APEWS.ORG - guess that speaks for itself) - and their FAQ is one of the worst reads ever. But nevertheless it included a tiny bit of maybe helpful information. Sorry I can't do much here - relying on APEWS for filtering seems to be bad, as it doesn't allow ISPs to delist directly. :/ Indeed. They explicitly write: Q41: How does one contact APEWS? A41: One does not. APEWS does not accept removal request by email, fax, voicemail or letters. [] The only chance to get unlisted is to: Q42: My IP address/range is being listed by APEWS but I'm not a spammer and I just signed up for this/these address(s). What can I do to be removed from the list? [...]The network owner (and no one else) can then post a message in a public forum mentioned above with the APEWS record number (eg. E=211497) and/or the IP address/range/domain information in it. Placing the text APEWS: in the subject can help a APEWS editor or developer see the message and they may double check the listing - note that, although others may, no APEWS editor or developer will ever reply to the posting.[...] The public forums mentioned are: the newsgroups news.admin.net-abuse.blocklisting (but that was shut down in 2011 already https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/news.admin.net-abuse.blocklisting and news.admin.net-abuse.email that contains some recent APEWS related postings from victims, but reading the replies is not for the faint of heart. Don't post there. You *WILL* be flamed, and rightfully so. → Tell your ISP to stop using APEWS blocklists. Every mail-admin who uses that lists gives a s*t about its users. Fine if you want to use it for your own business, if you're offering business to your clients, using that blacklist is a stupid idea. Let me put it in stronger words: Using APEWS blacklist questions your ability to run services for other people. Feel free to cite me on that. (not speaking for TDF though, I'm not in any position to speak for TDF anyway, I'm just a member and in no official position) ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] need copy of new theme on Wiki page for the NA-DVD
Thanks Florian
I will check the link out later and see how it goes.
now 7:34am - I still could not sleep - leg pain issues. Got up and
started my day at 7am. 4 +/- hours of sleep will not kill me for one night.
On 06/03/2013 05:33 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
On 06/03/2013 03:46 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote on 2013-06-03 09:33:
I saw the change in the menu bar theme colors and design.
see - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
I would like to have a copy of this theme for the NA-DVD web pages.
are you talking about the wiki content, or the wiki theme? The latter
one is the original MediaWiki vector theme as bundled with recent
versions, we didn't incorporate any changes (thus it's now blue
instead of green). As for the content itself, I don't know if there
has been a change recently.
Florian
[if I am not stating my needs properly - it is because I started
emailing in the wee hours of the morning. I could not sleep so I
have been up since about 3am and it is now 5:33 am. Need to get a few
hours of sleep now, hopefully]
at - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
It shows Documentation/Publications
Documentation
Then is shows three menu bars. This menu bar theme is different than
the one[s] viewed a few months ago, which was a darker green menu bar
theme matching the http://www.libreoffice.org/features/ page theme.
I would like to change the menu bar theme color for the NA-DVD to this
new [better maybe] theme color that the Wiki pages show, that cannot
be edited but is shown in the content as {{TopMenu}} {{Menu}}
{{Menu.Documentation}} {{OrigLang|}}. The {TopMenu} and {Menu}
theme colors are not editable unless you have the logo on abilities
for the folder[s] where these menu themecommands are stored.
I updated the NA-DVD theme when the LO web site page themes went the
the new dark green menu theme. I copied all of the information in
the theme folder[s] like /themes/css/layout.css,
/typography.css, and form.css. Plus the image folders aswell in
the theme folder.
When LO changed to the dark green theme, I did. Now the Wiki pages
have a different color theme that uses the new Green 4.0 color as part
of the new theme.
--
I used the following tags in the NA-DVD page[s] that used only one
menu bar.
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=themes/css/layout.css
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=themes/css/typography.css
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=themes/css/form.css
ul id=FirstNavigation
lia href=index.html class=linkspanInfo/span/abr /li
lia href=install.html class=linkspanInstall/span/a/li
lia href=module.html class=linkspanModule/span/a/li
lia href=extensions.html
class=linkspanExtensions/span/a/li
lia href=templates.html
class=linkspanTemplates/span/a/li
lia href=dictionary.html
class=linkspanDictionaries/span/a/li
lia href=extras.html class=linkspanExtras/span/a/li
lia href=documentation.html
class=currentspanDocumentation/span/a/li
lia href=artwork.html class=linkspanArtwork/span/a/li
/ul
AND the second menu bar tags for those pages the used it, like
module.html and the files listed in the SecondNavigation list.
ul id=SecondNavigation
lia href=writer.html class=linkspanWriter/span/a/li
lia href=calc.html class=linkspanCalc/span/a/li
lia href=impress.html class=linkspanImpress/span/a/li
lia href=draw.html class=linkspanDraw/span/a/li
lia href=base.html class=linkspanBase/span/a/li
lia href=math.html class=linkspanMath/span/a/li
/ul
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Re: [libreoffice-website] an black list has an IP address on it that LO uses now
Hi again, just a little clarification: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] Q41: How does one contact APEWS? A41: One does not. APEWS does not accept removal request by email, fax, voicemail or letters. [] The only chance to get unlisted is to: That should have been: They make it seem so. But this is just a way to make fun of people. Don't post there. You *WILL* be flamed, and rightfully so. As is written on their page as well: Note that posting messages in these newsgroups lists will not have any effect on APEWS listings, only the discontinuation of spam and/or spam support will. Abusing these newsgroups lists by posting removal request you will make a fool of yourself and are at risk to end up in additional private blocklists, so think twice before posting. So once again: Don't post to those newsgroups! → Tell your ISP to stop using APEWS blocklists. Every mail-admin who uses that lists gives a s*t about its users. Fine if you want to use it for your own business, if you're offering business to your clients, using that blacklist is a stupid idea. Let me put it in stronger words: Using APEWS blacklist questions your ability to run services for other people. And this is of course still true. ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] an black list has an IP address on it that LO uses now
On 06/03/2013 08:21 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi again, just a little clarification: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] Q41: How does one contact APEWS? A41: One does not. APEWS does not accept removal request by email, fax, voicemail or letters. [] The only chance to get unlisted is to: That should have been: They make it seem so. But this is just a way to make fun of people. Don't post there. You *WILL* be flamed, and rightfully so. As is written on their page as well: Note that posting messages in these newsgroups lists will not have any effect on APEWS listings, only the discontinuation of spam and/or spam support will. Abusing these newsgroups lists by posting removal request you will make a fool of yourself and are at risk to end up in additional private blocklists, so think twice before posting. So once again: Don't post to those newsgroups! → Tell your ISP to stop using APEWS blocklists. Every mail-admin who uses that lists gives a s*t about its users. Fine if you want to use it for your own business, if you're offering business to your clients, using that blacklist is a stupid idea. Let me put it in stronger words: Using APEWS blacklist questions your ability to run services for other people. And this is of course still true. ciao Christian I was told that the company who leased the IP address to LO is the one that needs to contact APEWS. I would not use email to do this either. Direct phone to a live person - yes person talking to another over the phone is a rare concept to many people who grew up using free text messaging and email services, but had to pay for the live phone calls. So some tech manager at the IP leasing company talks to the APEWS tech people by phone and maybe send faxes back and forth, or other non-email messaging. Then maybe, somehow, APEWS will get the idea that the current company using the IP address is not the people/company who got reported for spam. But if APEWS feels that the owner of the IP address was not doing a proper job in enforcing anti-spam policies, then things will not work out and we need to get a new IP address in the range of the ones we have that are not having these black list issues. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
