[libreoffice-website] [Bug 67735] New: automatic update information outdated: says 4.0.3 available, but 4.0.4 is

2013-08-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67735

  Priority: medium
Bug ID: 67735
CC: website@global.libreoffice.org
  Assignee: libreoffice-b...@lists.freedesktop.org
   Summary: automatic update information outdated: says 4.0.3
available, but 4.0.4 is
  Severity: normal
Classification: Unclassified
OS: Windows (All)
  Reporter: lio...@mamane.lu
  Hardware: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
   Version: unspecified
 Component: WWW
   Product: LibreOffice

Running LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 on Microsoft Windows, the an update is available
message tells me that 4.0.3 is available. It should say 4.0.4.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Portable and SDK download links broken for some locales

2013-08-04 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Harri,

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Harri Pitkänen hatap...@iki.fi wrote:

 This same problem is visible on many other localized subsites (for example
 sv and el) but not all: at least de and nl are OK (apparently because they
 have a localized donations page).

Yes - a conditional was missing  - should be fixed now, thanks for the report.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-website] Update from 3.6.7 as EOL

2013-08-04 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 04:33:45PM -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote:
 [cc'ing QA, as they might have some suggestions here...]
 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster
 webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 I do not know that 4.1.0 would be the best to start a user on,
 personallythat is.  Some would say 3.6.7 would be best for business users,
 but does it have theMSO XML format updates that 4.0.4 and maybe 4.1.0 have?

 Personally, I would tell peoplesomething like the following.
 3.6.7 - the most conservative version
 4.0.4 [4.0.5] - useful for most users
 4.1.0 - for users that are early adopters for a version line

 +1

 There has always been a sticking point for me to see the download page
 default to an early adopter version, as named by the release plan page.

 The more people on the early-adopter version, the faster we find bugs
 and regressions. I think that if we make the tradeoffs clear, we'll
 probably still have a large number of people grab the latest version
 and help us find any remaining issues, but anyone who is more cautious
 can stick with something from the previous Release series.

See also https://bugs.freedesktop.org/67556 about user confusions
about our versions in the context of the automatic available update
notification. Our vision really needs to be taught; in the context
of the update notification, I suggest we add a setting:

 - conservative
 - most users
 - early adopter

and the setting screen should contain a brief explanation of the
trade-offs.

Right now, we heuristically say (for our update policy) that people
using 3.6 are conservative (and propose them only 3.6.7), but
really that's a (bad) heuristic; it should be a setting.

 Sure we would like to have people upgrade to 4.0.4 or 4.0.5, but I
 do not think we should have anyone think we will not support
 aprevious product line less than a month or two after its last
 version comes out.

 IIRC, that's the timeline that ESC came up with. As I understand the
 logic, the last few builds in a Release series are really just
 maintenance releases containing bugfixes, etc... (*...) So instead
 of thinking about it as dropping support a month after the last
 build, think about it as dropping support 5 months after the 5th
 build (X.x.4) in a series.

Precisely. The last build is *by* *definition* the time when you drop
the possibility for bugfixes. Releasing a bugfix needs a new build, so
if you say we may make a bugfix to 3.6.7, it means we may make a
3.6.8 or in other words 3.6.7 may not be the last 3.6 build.

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