[libreoffice-website] [Bug 72386] New: Silverstripe urls show wrong pages in Turkish locale

2013-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72386

  Priority: medium
Bug ID: 72386
CC: website@global.libreoffice.org
  Assignee: libreoffice-b...@lists.freedesktop.org
   Summary: Silverstripe urls show wrong pages in Turkish locale
  Severity: major
Classification: Unclassified
OS: All
  Reporter: kobz...@gmail.com
  Hardware: Other
Status: UNCONFIRMED
   Version: 4.1.3.2 release
 Component: WWW
   Product: LibreOffice

Hi,

We have a strange Silverstripe issue.

Today i figured that our Contact page with url
https://tr.libreoffice.org/iletisim/ was showing the content of get-help page
http://tr.libreoffice.org/get-help/. I investigated the matter from admin
dashboard, and no changes were there. Saved the İletişim(Contact) page and
problem was solved.

However i just see that another page Belgelendirme(Documentation) with url
https://tr.libreoffice.org/belgelendirme/ is showing the homepage of
https://tr.libreoffice.org/home/ 

I'm leaving the page unchanged for your investigation.

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-website] [Bug 72386] New: Silverstripe urls show wrong pages in Turkish locale

2013-12-06 Thread Cico




            Summary: Silverstripe urls show wrong pages in Turkish locale
            Product: LibreOffice
 
 Hi,
 
 We have a strange Silverstripe issue.
 
 Today i figured that our Contact page with url
 https://tr.libreoffice.org/iletisim/ was showing the content of get-help page
 http://tr.libreoffice.org/get-help/. I investigated the matter from admin
 dashboard, and no changes were there. Saved the İletişim(Contact) page and
 problem was solved.
 
 However i just see that another page Belgelendirme(Documentation) with url
 https://tr.libreoffice.org/belgelendirme/ is showing the homepage of
 https://tr.libreoffice.org/home/ 
 
 I'm leaving the page unchanged for your investigation.
 
 Best regards,
 Zeki

Hello *,
I've noticed just yesterday the same behaviour on the italian section 
(it.libreoffice.org); urls showing wrong pages, though nothing was changed in 
the pages configurations; and everything seems to be correct in the 
configurations.
I haven't changed anything too, so you can investigate.
Namastè *! :)


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[libreoffice-website] evaluating Redmine

2013-12-06 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

today, I would like to invite you to evaluate Redmine, a project 
management system. _PLEASE_ read the following sections _COMPLETELY_ 
before proceeding, as they contain important details.


This evaluation has started out of two reasons:

(1) With the growing number of freelancers, we need to keep track of the 
paid work done for TDF, and the status of tasks and todos. In other 
words, we need some sort of project management system, which also the 
larger community can benefit from.


(2) The infrastructure team needs a ticketing system for handling their 
tasks. We have one in place already, but it is not used frequently, and 
we try to evaluate alternatives.


Ideally, those two requirements can be made fit together in one tool.

This also means that Redmine is _NOT_ meant as replacement for Bugzilla 
at all - not now, not later. Bugzilla fulfills a rather different set of 
requirements, focused on development, while we are looking for project 
management and ticketing, so I don't see a way to combine all three 
requirements in one tool.


While Redmine also offers a file storage, wiki, calendaring and other 
tools, they are _NOT_ part of the evaluation. Chances are we might use 
some of these functions to remove the variety of tools in place, but it 
is not the primary determining factor. For the wiki e.g. we cannot 
simply migrate away from MediaWiki, as we would lose important 
functionality and plugins that overweight the benefit of having 
everything in one place.


One more important note: This is explicitly called _EVALUATION_, which 
means _NO_ final decision has been made yet, _NO_ binding timeline 
exists, and _NOBODY_ is claiming it is the perfect tool for all of our 
purposes. We _EVALUATE_ and based on the results, we make a decision.


Please do _NOT_ rely on Redmine being a productive instance. It may 
vanish at _ANY_ time, with loss of _ALL_ data. Again, it is an 
_EVALUATION_, nothing to fully count on. Feel free to put productive 
tickets into it, but do not expect any stability or reliability.


All those warnings being said (I deemed that necessary given recent 
discussions on our tools), I hope I didn't scare you away. ;-) I'm more 
than happy if as many of you as possible test the tool and give us 
feedback what you like or dislike.


To create yourself an account, please navigate to

https://intranet.documentfoundation.org/redmine/

and wait for the e-mail where you have to click a confirmation link, 
just like for the wiki, and then you are set up. You can then create 
tickets and play with the tool. For those who would like to have a 
deeper look, there's also a variety of Android apps available to use 
Redmine remotely.


For discussions, please use the website@global.libreoffice.org mailing 
list exclusively. Please also use this list if you want to have 
projects/queues created and/or get assigned as possible bug recipient 
with one of those.


For concrete bugs and wishes you have, please add them directly to 
http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/infra so they don't get lost.


One last thing I'd like to ask for: Please be sensible in your 
requirements. While surely there are many wishlist items we can have a 
look at, we clearly need to identify blocking issues. Raising 
expectations so high that no tool can fulfill them will lead us no 
where, so again, be sensible. :-)


That being said, Redmine is a first step. We have some other tools on 
the radar that might fit, so - happy to hear the results of everyone's 
evaluation!


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] evaluating Redmine

2013-12-06 Thread Andrew Cassidy
Not to be annoying, but...

Jira is pretty much the industry standard for this kind of stuff, do you
not fit in the requirements for the free open-source projects license?

I'm sure you've looked at all the available options anyway :)


On 6 December 2013 13:24, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
 wrote:

 Hello,

 today, I would like to invite you to evaluate Redmine, a project
 management system. _PLEASE_ read the following sections _COMPLETELY_ before
 proceeding, as they contain important details.

 This evaluation has started out of two reasons:

 (1) With the growing number of freelancers, we need to keep track of the
 paid work done for TDF, and the status of tasks and todos. In other words,
 we need some sort of project management system, which also the larger
 community can benefit from.

 (2) The infrastructure team needs a ticketing system for handling their
 tasks. We have one in place already, but it is not used frequently, and we
 try to evaluate alternatives.

 Ideally, those two requirements can be made fit together in one tool.

 This also means that Redmine is _NOT_ meant as replacement for Bugzilla at
 all - not now, not later. Bugzilla fulfills a rather different set of
 requirements, focused on development, while we are looking for project
 management and ticketing, so I don't see a way to combine all three
 requirements in one tool.

 While Redmine also offers a file storage, wiki, calendaring and other
 tools, they are _NOT_ part of the evaluation. Chances are we might use some
 of these functions to remove the variety of tools in place, but it is not
 the primary determining factor. For the wiki e.g. we cannot simply migrate
 away from MediaWiki, as we would lose important functionality and plugins
 that overweight the benefit of having everything in one place.

 One more important note: This is explicitly called _EVALUATION_, which
 means _NO_ final decision has been made yet, _NO_ binding timeline exists,
 and _NOBODY_ is claiming it is the perfect tool for all of our purposes. We
 _EVALUATE_ and based on the results, we make a decision.

 Please do _NOT_ rely on Redmine being a productive instance. It may vanish
 at _ANY_ time, with loss of _ALL_ data. Again, it is an _EVALUATION_,
 nothing to fully count on. Feel free to put productive tickets into it, but
 do not expect any stability or reliability.

 All those warnings being said (I deemed that necessary given recent
 discussions on our tools), I hope I didn't scare you away. ;-) I'm more
 than happy if as many of you as possible test the tool and give us feedback
 what you like or dislike.

 To create yourself an account, please navigate to

 https://intranet.documentfoundation.org/redmine/

 and wait for the e-mail where you have to click a confirmation link, just
 like for the wiki, and then you are set up. You can then create tickets and
 play with the tool. For those who would like to have a deeper look, there's
 also a variety of Android apps available to use Redmine remotely.

 For discussions, please use the website@global.libreoffice.org mailing
 list exclusively. Please also use this list if you want to have
 projects/queues created and/or get assigned as possible bug recipient with
 one of those.

 For concrete bugs and wishes you have, please add them directly to
 http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/infra so they don't get lost.

 One last thing I'd like to ask for: Please be sensible in your
 requirements. While surely there are many wishlist items we can have a look
 at, we clearly need to identify blocking issues. Raising expectations so
 high that no tool can fulfill them will lead us no where, so again, be
 sensible. :-)

 That being said, Redmine is a first step. We have some other tools on the
 radar that might fit, so - happy to hear the results of everyone's
 evaluation!

 Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] evaluating Redmine

2013-12-06 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Andrew Cassidy wrote on 2013-12-06 17:13:

Jira is pretty much the industry standard for this kind of stuff, do you
not fit in the requirements for the free open-source projects license?

I'm sure you've looked at all the available options anyway:)


from what I remember, JIRA is free to use for free software projects, 
but not a free software itself. That, however, is a hard requirement for 
me - I don't want to use non-free software for that, unless it can't be 
avoided. :-)


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] evaluating Redmine

2013-12-06 Thread Andrew Cassidy
You are correct, it's free as in beer rather than free as in speech.

Fair enough!


On 6 December 2013 16:20, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Andrew Cassidy wrote on 2013-12-06 17:13:

  Jira is pretty much the industry standard for this kind of stuff, do you
 not fit in the requirements for the free open-source projects license?

 I'm sure you've looked at all the available options anyway:)


 from what I remember, JIRA is free to use for free software projects, but
 not a free software itself. That, however, is a hard requirement for me - I
 don't want to use non-free software for that, unless it can't be avoided.
 :-)


 Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] evaluating Redmine

2013-12-06 Thread bjoern
Hi Florian,

On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 02:24:50PM +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 [RedMine update]

Thanks for the update, very much appreciated.

 This also means that Redmine is _NOT_ meant as replacement for
 Bugzilla at all - not now, not later. Bugzilla fulfills a rather
 different set of requirements, focused on development, while we are
 looking for project management and ticketing, so I don't see a way
 to combine all three requirements in one tool.

Just to clarify: this does not preclude us reconsidering RedMine as a
replacement for Bugzilla in a decade or so, as its really hard to see now how
both Bugzilla and RedMine will develop in the long run. But bugtracking for
LibreOffice the product clearly is out of scope for the current RedMine
instance. ;)

 Please do _NOT_ rely on Redmine being a productive instance. It may
 vanish at _ANY_ time, with loss of _ALL_ data. Again, it is an
 _EVALUATION_, nothing to fully count on. Feel free to put productive
 tickets into it, but do not expect any stability or reliability.

^^ ;)

Best,

Bjoern

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