Re: [libreoffice-website] Tasks and volunteers

2010-12-12 Thread Seb
How does this work. If my name is not there do I just had it and let
you know what I can help with? Because I don't really have a task.

I can do a bit of everything but I probably be most useful doing
systems administration since this is what I do for a living.

Seb.

2010/12/13 Samuel Gómez fuljen...@gmail.com:
 To all volunteers,

 Please fill in your row at
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Tasks_and_volunteers

 If you think some columns should be created/deleted/merged/split
 please discuss it or simply do it.

 Also, instead of YES/(NO) we could use numbers from 1 to 5 meaning
 less or more commitment.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Download page

2010-12-09 Thread Seb
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Carlos Jenkins hastciber...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Stefan,

 2010/12/8 Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org

 I would never consider showing a selection of distros Debian,
 Fedora, Mandriva, Mint, PCLinuxOS, Ubuntu, openSUSE rather than a
 selection of package types Windows, Mac x86, Mac PPC, Linux x86 rpm,
 Linux x86 deb, Linux 64 bit rpm, Linux 64 bit deb.


 You have a good point. But I hope some day LibreOffice will be in a lot of
 distros, we're aiming to become the default OfficeSuite for the mayor, if
 not all, the Linux Distributions out there. Please check the Banshee website
 and how the Download section behave:

 http://banshee.fm/download/

I'm pretty sure his point was exactly the opposite of the banshee download page.


 We need also, analyse the download widget from a user perspective, a list
 box with options, if quick for people who know what to do,
 it's absolutely not good for normal users.

I disagree. The vast majority of people in the world are indeed
capable of making a choice when presented with a simple question.

It's one thing to guide a user in making the appropriate and another
to make a choice for them.

 I know, if you ask for Ubuntu a
 lot users if they need to choose deb or rpm, they will not know, cause they
 use Ubuntu Software Center to install things (and again my first point).

Sure that's why you try to guide to the DEB file.

Don't get me wrong though. I actually like the banshee download page.
It's the second step I don't like. The process gives me instruction
while I specifically came to the page to Download something.

 And as Marc Paré stated nor they will know if 32bits or 64bits.

 Seb said:
 They are 3 possible answer DEB, RPM or Neither.

 Yes, for now, we hope in the future we have instructions per distros like
 the Banshee site. Also we need to jungle with +arch, +lang, +download
 method, so it's a little more complex. But I think Samuel is on the right
 track.

No. There really are only 3 possibilities. Most popular distros use
RPM or DEB. And others use something specific to that distro in which
case the probably want the source anyway.

If you use a distro that uses deb or rpm you download the file, double
click on it, then the install starts. Simple. And everyone is familiar
with that. because that's how it's done on every major operating
system. Download, double click, install.

And for the those who don't have RPM or DEB. Well don't worry about
them because they know what they are doing. In fact the last thing
they probably want is a piece of Javascript telling them what to do.

As far as architectures go. The OO.o code is not exactly a success
story as far as ports go. I don't think we need to worry about that
just yet.

Language is trivial. I'm almost 100% sure that people know what
language they speak and can select it from a list. And keep it a list
because people often do install their office suite in a diffrent
language. For example I am a French speaking Canadian but I was born
in an bilingual part of Canada. As such I run most software in English
but my office suite in French.

Download method is also trivial. There can only be one.

In any case we have half of use that wants the distro thing and other
want the package thing. So lets compromise and do a bit of both.

See attached image.

SEB.
PS: selecting other would add an extra step to choose between DEB, RPM
and Source.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Download page

2010-12-08 Thread Seb
It think we are making this much hard than it could be.

They are 3 possible answer DEB, RPM or Neither.

So if you can detect you default to the right package.

If you cannot detect, are not sure you detected right, or you detect
something that does not use deb or rpm. You default to select your
pacakge.

Also the source package in tar.gz need to be an option. Gentoo and
slackware users for example will probably want that choice.

If you are worried about people that don't know. Put a small link
above the box. I need help selecting the right package!
Set the link to display a box on hover.
If you are using Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Linux Mint, Xandros, etc.
You should try the .deb package
If you are using Red hat, CentOS, Fedora, Suse, OpenSuse, Mandriva
etc. You should try the .deb package
If you are using Gentoo, Mandrake or another distribute you may want
to use the source package.

(People usually at least know which distro they have. It's usually
pretty clear because of the big  bright logo at boot. :) )

This can be followed by the language selection box.

Then by 2 checkboxes.
-64bit
-torrent

Seb.

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[libreoffice-website]

2010-12-07 Thread Seb
Hi Website list,
Just a quick message to introduce myself. So of you may know me from
oo.o I used to participate in the art project. However I'm actually a
system administrator so I figured I might be able to lend a hand
around  here.

I have over 10 years experience with Linux system, Apache, mysql, bind
etc. I do html, php and can hack togheter bash and the odd perl script
where need. So If can help with anything let me know.

Seb

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Download page

2010-12-07 Thread Seb
Hi,
Sorry I just joined and probably missed half this discussion.

Wouldn't it be acceptable to have a page similar to the opera
(http://www.opera.com/browser/download/) download page and when the
page can detect you distro it focuses the drop down to you distro. If
it cannot identify it just focuses the menu to please select you
distribution.

The the second drop down for 32 or 64bit.

cheers,
Seb.


On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Carlos Jenkins hastciber...@gmail.com wrote:
 Again, for Christian:

 [Debian] Chrome

 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.3 (KHTML, like
 Gecko) Chrome/6.0.472.63 Safari/534.3

 [Debian] Iceweasel

 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; es-AR; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101028
 Iceweasel/3.5.15 (like Firefox/3.5.15)

 [Ubuntu] SeaMonkey

 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027
 SeaMonkey/2.0.10

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