Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Promoting RCs on Facebook
Do we really want to advertise RCs on Facebook or Twitter? I know that advertising the regular releases vis social networks would be a good idea, but having people comment about issues with RCs on the social networks might confuse people. I rarely use the social networks. I signed up and I get friend requests from people wanting to sell me things or people that I have nothing in common with, including the language we speak. Then there are people who want me to be with their fan-club type of groups. Sorry, I do not have time for these people. To be honest, having good word-of-mouth about LibreOffice is always good, but I really do not know how many people out there on these social networks would know the difference between a RC version and a finalized version. Then there is the potential issue of 3.5.1 being recommended over 3.4.5 on the web page download system. I personally would not recommend 3.5.0, and now 3.5.1 for business and enterprise users. I do not think with all the problems with this new line, we want to recommend 3.5.0/1 for ALL users. That is another thing that confused a business man who was going to download a new version of LO. He had 3.4.4 and hear that there was a new version out and downloaded 3.5.0. He should have download 3.4.5 for his business computers. He really was turned off by the problems with 3.5.0. That same type of negative user response could happen with people seeing problems and issues with RC version of the package on the social networks. IF you have it there, you must make it clear that LO RC-1-3.5.2 or RC-1-3.4.6 is a release candidate being tested for errors/issues and not the normal release. Well that is my opinion. On 03/16/2012 11:06 AM, drew jensen wrote: On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 15:34 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: Hi Cor, 2012/3/16 Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl: Volker Merschmann wrote (07-03-12 13:59) In the meantime I have found the names of the maintainers: Gerard Jensen, Don Crowley, Nikola Yanev I do not know any of them and they are not linked from the FB-page. Can anybody help? Don't know them either. But am willing to post a polite message, if in the mean time (we're only 9 days later ;-) ) not someone else took action on this. As there is no possiblity to write to the page owners I commented on https://www.facebook.com/libreoffice.org/posts/364685130219760 with some hints, but nobody of them replied. I think we have to wait for the next pre-release and see how they will act. Well, at least the general public can post to their page - more then can be said for some. Volker -- Volker Merschmann Member of The Document Foundation http://www.documentfoundation.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: how do I get a label design on the wiki page?
I have an account for the Wiki pages, but half the time I try to upload an image, something goes wrong. This is a 1.4 MB - 2500 px by 2500 px .png file http://libreoffice-na.us/na-dvd-3.4.5-label.png This is a square and has no core hole. There are several types of printable media with different core size of unprintable area and outside diameter differences. So if your media printing masks out the unprintable areas, based upon your media's dimensions, you can use this type of image without worrying. http://libreoffice-na.us/label-3.4.5.jpg This is a photo of the first printing of that label, and I still had more printable areas needing the background to be printed. My Epson Artisan 810 printer can adjust the inside edge and outer edge for the printable media. So this label would be the only one in the list of labels that would not have an open core and have more image than you have media. On 03/14/2012 01:23 PM, Alexander Wilms wrote: Hi, I'm Alex from the design team. I don't think you'd need to go through a process in order to put your design up. Do you already have an account for the wiki? Alex -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/how-do-I-get-a-label-design-on-the-wiki-page-tp3825548p3826151.html Sent from the Website mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] how do I get a label design on the wiki page?
Could anyone tell me what is the process of getting a LO label design placed onto the Existing Designs page? The label in the link is the one that I use for the NA-DVD 3.4.5 discs. I print them on the media directly. It is actually a square label that I allow the software to mask out the unneeded parts. That way you have edge to edge media printing. If you have media that has a small center hole, then it is covered fully. This works better for me than using the label images that have the hole and outside edge defined. So can anyone help me place this design on the page? I do not want to try to place it there myself, since I am not on the design team. http://libreoffice-na.us/na-dvd-3.4.5-label.png http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Existing_Designs#Disc_Label -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] can we get the download page to give us a choice again?
When I went to the default download page it showed only the 3.5.0 version. After going through the pages, I finally got to the page showing both 3.5.0 and 3.4.5. 3.5.0 showed up as Recommended Well, would we really recommend 3.5.0 for business/enterprise users? How about giving two choices again 3.4.x - Recommended for Business/Enterprise users 3.5.x - Recommended for Cutting edge users Then we do not have business users download the 3.5.x line before it is ready for their use. Right now, I would not send any business user to the download site, without giving them a direct link to the 3.4.x page, since they might not like 3.5.0 for their business systems. For me, it may be 3.5.2 or 3.5.3 before I would go and have that line used for business over the 3.4.5 or 3.4.6 versions. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] requesting an update to the download page
On the page: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.4.5 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.4.5 I request that this DVD be listed: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/box/3.4.5/LO-3.4.5--NA-DVD--WLM--Feb-21st-2012.iso http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.4.5 The 3.4.4 version is listed on the 3.4.4 DVD page. Since this version seems to be error free, I would like this new one be listed as well. There was an issue with the Feb 19th[?] one, so I corrected that issue and uploaded the new one a server and it was placed on the proper folder for use and mirrored [I think]. I also wonder when I should create a 3.5.x version? Should I wait for 3.5.2? or should it be a newer or later version? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] simpler download page activated for live test on www.libreoffice.org
I do not like this simpler one when you need to download many help and language packs. Is there a way to get to the old way of listing the help and language packs available for 3.4.5 and do the same for 3.5.0? I have 80 files to download for the 3.5.0 version and still have to download ALL of the x86 version of DEB 3.4.5. On 02/19/2012 10:33 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi *, despite some details not being perfect, the simplified download page is now activated on www.libreoffice.org activated = now new-style is in menu, old one was removed from menu, frontpage links to newstyle-downlaod However pages below old download have not been moved yet (or better: URL-segment has not been exchanged, so new-style is still download35 instead of download) so that when you visit the release notes you won't get the Download in the first navigation highlighted. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] simpler download page activated for live test on www.libreoffice.org
I forgot to add this: When I pressed the green button to download one of the help packs I did not press the first line of words, but below them. That gave me the torrent file. I was wondering if it would be better to make that one green button into three. One for the actual file, one for the torrent link, and one for the info link. That way people who do not want the torrent download does not get it like I did, or sees the button and think it is only for the torrent downloading. That is what I first thought when I looked at it. That may confuse some new users. So for the new users to LO, except the three downloads combined into one green button image, this new design may be good. For power downloading, for those who need to download all the install files, plus 8 languages and their help packs, it does not work as well. BUT, the download site is designed for the beginners and newly downloading LO. On 02/19/2012 12:55 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I do not like this simpler one when you need to download many help and language packs. Is there a way to get to the old way of listing the help and language packs available for 3.4.5 and do the same for 3.5.0? I have 80 files to download for the 3.5.0 version and still have to download ALL of the x86 version of DEB 3.4.5. On 02/19/2012 10:33 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi *, despite some details not being perfect, the simplified download page is now activated on www.libreoffice.org activated = now new-style is in menu, old one was removed from menu, frontpage links to newstyle-downlaod However pages below old download have not been moved yet (or better: URL-segment has not been exchanged, so new-style is still download35 instead of download) so that when you visit the release notes you won't get the Download in the first navigation highlighted. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] simpler download page activated for live test on www.libreoffice.org
On 02/19/2012 04:06 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Anders Holbøllanders...@gmail.com wrote: On 19-02-2012 21:15, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: When I pressed the green button to download one of the help packs I did not press the first line of words, but below them. That gave me the torrent file. The torrent and info links should of course be removed entirely. VETO! I strongly disagree here. I absolutely want the torrents links to be available. Removing the possibility to use torrents will only happen when my computers catch fire and cut me off from reverting any changes that remove this possibility :-) ciao Christian Those links need to be there. I would take them out of the single green button image, and place them in a list below the regular file list. Ubuntu and other Linux sites seem to have the normal downloads listed first, then a torrent file download listing. The Info download might need to be listed after that. But Torrents need to be listed somewhere. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] simpler download page activated for live test on www.libreoffice.org
Thanks I did not know that the old version was still there. I will try to download the 3.5.0 files in a few days. I just finished the 3.4.5 DVD and I am hoping to get the NA-DVD .iso file for 3.4.5 added to the LO list for 3.4.5 DVDs in the next few days. Then I will work on the 3.5.0 version after that. I will have to create a 3.5.x line on my testing portal on the LibreOffice-NA.US site, so people can choose between 3.4.x, and now 3.5.x. I still do not have the Win-only 3.4.x pages up-to-date with 3.4.5 as well. So I have a bit of work. Then I will need to upgrade my kpp American/British/Canadian dictionary sets to the new word lists with about 1,000 open-source, computer, and other words. The .dic files are finished, and I just have to redo the .oxt files to reflect them. Now I am adding the creation of some railroad-related TV-DVD movies for some special-needs individuals to my list. So I am very busy for the few hours I am able to sit at this desktop. Today I have been on the desktop 3 time longer than I should, and I am going to regret it with tomorrow's pain levels. On 02/19/2012 04:03 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi *, On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:55 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I do not like this simpler one when you need to download many help and language packs. For the time being, the old/classic downlod page is still available - http://www.libreoffice.org/download Is there a way to get to the old way of listing the help and language packs available for 3.4.5 and do the same for 3.5.0? See above. But no, if you mean the full list of downloads that was at the bottom of the old page, then no, it is not planned to get that back. I have 80 files to download for the 3.5.0 version and still have to download ALL of the x86 version of DEB 3.4.5. If you need to download all files, then you might want to use rsync instead anyway. Alternatively, you can use the plain mirrorlisting. (i.e. use http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.5.0 ) But once again: If you really want to download *all* of something, then I suggest to pick one of the mirrrors that support rsync and use rsync to download. http://download.documentfoundation.org/mirrors/all.html (or use rsync only to retrieve a list of files, and run it through xargs (for creating parallel processes) and curl/wget)) ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: [da-dansk] LibreOffice 3.5 er frigivet i dag...
I know of many people myself that would be confused by seeing RC# in the file's name. I questioned that myself the first time I noticed it. Usually I see RC2 instead of RC3, so at least it went through more test precessing before it was released. Actually, I have been using 3.4.5 for less than a month now. I wonder how long I should wait till I go to the 3.5.x line for my default desktop [Ubuntu 10.04LTS 64-bit]. I just updated 2 other computers with 3.4.5 in the past week and will be doing it today with a friend's laptop. Of course, there will be people who will state why should we get 3.5 when we have 3.4 or something like that. The same happened when we went from 3.3.x to a good version of 3.4.3 and above. There will be a need for a educated answer on which version of the 3.5.x like will be start offering to our business-type of users over 3.4.5 at this point. Right now, till maybe 3.5.2 or .3, I will be offering 3.4.5 as the default install. I still have to update the LibreOffice-NA.US portal and DVD to 3.4.5. Then I will have to look into a 3.5.x version in a few months. On 02/14/2012 09:28 AM, Leif Lodahl wrote: Hi all, One user from Denmark noticed that the downloaded 64bit Linux version contains rc3 files. We know that it's the same content, but some users might be afraid of installing RC3 files. Cheers, Leif Lodahl -- Videresendte meddelelser -- Fra: Jeppe Bundsgaardwebsite@global.libre office.or Dato: 14. feb. 2012 13.56 Emne: Re: [da-dansk] LibreOffice 3.5 er frigivet i dag... Til: da...@da.libreoffice.org Hej Linux 64bit-versionen ser ud til stadig at være rc3 - selv om filnavnet siger noget andet. Når man pakker ud får man rc3-filer, og det siger den også når de er installeret. Nogen der ved hvad man skal gøre så? Mvh Jeppe On 14-02-2012 13:13, Leif Lodahl wrote: Detaljer: http://blog.**documentfoundation.org/2012/**02/14/the-document-foundation- **announces-libreoffice-3-5-the-**best-free-office-suite-ever/http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/02/14/the-document-foundation-announces-libreoffice-3-5-the-best-free-office-suite-ever/ Med venlig hilsen Leif Lodahl -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Localized websites hits
On 02/10/2012 12:33 PM, Zeki Bildirici wrote: 27 Ocak 2012 15:12 tarihinde Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org yazdı: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Is there a way to let me know the number of hits of the localized portal? in slices of months for instance? This will be a very good data for us, if available :) Best regards, Zeki I do not have a log program to give me good figures for LibreOffice-NA.US, BUT from what I can tell, I have had 70 gig +/- of bandwidth of traffic coming from that domain for the last billing period of Jan 8th to Feb 7th with average day on the chart being between 2 gig and 3 gig of traffic. Does anyone have a good Ubuntu package to read Apache Logs and get a good idea what the logs are telling me? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] what is the status of the dropped .oxt from the Extension Center
What is the status of the dropped .oxt extension from the Extension Center uploaded files? I currently have my dictionaries using External hosted file option, but when I finally get the time to upload the updated versions [plus a new one] to the list, I would like to have them hosted internally. I do not remember if the issue had been corrected since I last used the system. Also would it be better to make an update version or just redo the page with the new files? The size figures will be 1K larger, i.e. 217K will now be 218K, 390K will be 391K, etc.. There will be a 763K added to the American/US English version's 99K, 218K, 391K, 639K, word lists. This new largest list will include Chemistry and Medical related words. I do have a 1 million word list in the works, but that will take a lot of work to make sure it is worth publication. Most of those extra 400K words will be rarely used words that are valid, but rarely used spelling variants for more common word spelling. So I may just create a second dictionary as an add-on to the original ones for testing and use. Until then, I will hope people will like the updated dictionaries. I, to my shock, realized that LibreOffice and other such words were not in my current spelling word lists. That is the mai reason for the 1K +/- word update at this time. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] ACTA banner?
On 01/27/2012 06:28 AM, Olav Dahlum wrote: 2012/1/27 Olav Dahlumodah...@gmail.com 2012/1/27 Charles-H. Schulzcharles.sch...@documentfoundation.org Le Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:28:56 +0100, Olav Dahlumodah...@gmail.com a écrit : 2012/1/27 Rainer Bielefeldlibreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de Charles-H.Schulz schrieb: +1 and if anyone wondered, LibreOffice as a product/software is much more impacted by ACTA than it is by SOPA and PIPA. Hi +1 But IMHO the subject also is more complex than SOPA, we should have a well founded and well worded statement on the website, not only a banner. Best regards Rainer +1 Then we might need one page and a banner redirecting to it. Best, -- Charles-H. Schulz Member of the Board of Directors, The Document Foundation. http://www.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet_tech_a/?cl=1538408562v=12246might be a good place to start with, also, an e-mail with various links to more information and stories appeared in my inbox a couple of minutes ago. More information (received from Avaaz): If You Thought SOPA Was Bad, Just Wait Until You Meet ACTA http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/23/if-you-thought-sopa-was-bad-just-wait-until-you-meet-acta/ ACTA vs. SOPA: Five Reasons ACTA is Scarier Threat to Internet Freedom http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/286925/20120124/acta-sopa-reasons-scarier-threat-internet-freedom.htm?cid=2 What's Wrong With ACTA http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number10.1/whats-wrong-with-ACTA The secret treaty: Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) and Its Impact on Access to Medicines http://www.msfaccess.org/content/secret-treaty-anti-counterfeiting-trade-agreement-acta-and-its-impact-access-medicines What we need is a good info page stating what ACTA is about - as it effects packages like LO. I heard of this ACTA only yesterday so we need to have some good info. Also, I thing we need to include text about what all these proposed [and enacted] laws/regulations are meant to do, but what their impact would be for legal file transfer sites and open-source/FOSS packages being shared via the Internet. There has been legal file swapping sites being shut down because a group states that they are doing something wrong - even if they are not. These attempts to reduce, or even wipe out, piracy is harming the flow of legal file sharing or sites that allow you to legally download files like LO and other legally sharable software and multimedia. I host a LO web site, which is a testing portal for my DVD. If I understand some of these regulations, I may have to close that portal since I do not own the copyrights to LO and the FOSS packages withing the online version of my DVD. So a real good page about piracy regulation [proposed and enacted] and sharing LO/FOSS is really needed. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] ACTA banner?
On 01/27/2012 12:00 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello there, Le Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:23:55 -0500, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit : (snipped part of the thread) What we need is a good info page stating what ACTA is about - as it effects packages like LO. I heard of this ACTA only yesterday so we need to have some good info. Also, I thing we need to include text about what all these proposed [and enacted] laws/regulations are meant to do, but what their impact would be for legal file transfer sites and open-source/FOSS packages being shared via the Internet. There has been legal file swapping sites being shut down because a group states that they are doing something wrong - even if they are not. These attempts to reduce, or even wipe out, piracy is harming the flow of legal file sharing or sites that allow you to legally download files like LO and other legally sharable software and multimedia. I host a LO web site, which is a testing portal for my DVD. If I understand some of these regulations, I may have to close that portal since I do not own the copyrights to LO and the FOSS packages withing the online version of my DVD. So a real good page about piracy regulation [proposed and enacted] and sharing LO/FOSS is really needed. That is one example, yes. The other one will be the stronger (much stronger) enforceability of software patents and closing down of websites will be ordered without judges consent. That directly affects FOSS and LibreOffice. I was wondering, would you like to put together such a text? We'd put it on our website along with the various other public links. Best, I will have to think about it. I am not much of a writer of such items, since surviving my 3 strokes. I sometimes can write interesting stuff, but only on my good days. I am not up on what these proposed/enacted regulations really will do, just what they might do by just being debated and acted on by local/regional law enforcement and people who demand the entire service is taken down due to the possible use of that service for piracy, even if there never has been any issues with that site/company. The big issue for me is where items are coming from. I tend to buy used books and DVDs through sites like Amazon.com, and others, that have what I want. Will these sites be required to mandate that the sellers prove that these used items were legally made and obtained? And how can you prove that? My local used book store buys books at yard sales, and big regional used book sales. How could she prove they are legally printed and obtained books, for the ones that she sells on the Net? She cannot. The same goes with some of the issues that I have heard are part of the anti-piracy regulations/laws being worked on. Right now, if the copyright owner finds that their work is being sold or given away without their permission, they can go to the site/domain owner to have their work removed from that site. If they do not, then the hosting company must shut down the site. If they do not, then the laws in the location where the server[s] are located [determined by IP routing, etc.] will need to shut the equipment down based on their local/regional/international laws. It is not perfect, but there can not be a perfect way to get it to work completely. There are too many laws and regional governments involved. If a site is required to make sure what is on their equipment is legal to ALL of the laws and regional governments rules, then that will be the death of the openness of the Internet and freedom of speech for those who create web page content, or offer FOSS-like packages on their servers/domains/sites. What I say here, is my opinion and not authoritative in nature. We need more authoritative and less opinion in our dealing with this subject. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] download issues first 1-2 weeks after now version are out
On 01/21/2012 06:48 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2012-01-20 20:01: I have noticed that in the first few weeks after a new version is ready, I have a lot of download issues. These issues mostly are things like download the file and it is finished after downloading 10 - 100KB ± of the file, instead of the full 10-150MB of the file. from a gut feeling, I would say that you get a mirror that has an incomplete or defective file. That normally should not happen, but I guess we need to investigate. Do you know which mirror you downloaded from? (Firefox e.g. offers to copy the download URL to the clipboard, from where you can see the real mirror address.) The next times this happens, can you write down the mirror name? Maybe it's always the same mirror? Florian I just go to the default download page and use the larger list instead of the box that guessed which version I need. I go to the list at the bottom of the download options, since it shows all of the different language packs and the help packs for all of the supported platforms. I really do not remember seeing a list of the mirrors for places to download LO from. Any help to determine which mirror that I can download from, if any? Or does LO's download page just automatically pick one for you? This is just a quirk for LO's download. I use Firefox 3.6.24 on a 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, using a broadband access from my local cable company. I have Phone/Cable/broadband package from Time-Warner Cable, like for the movies and TV networks, but there is a DSL option available from the phone company. I hope to download and make a 3.4.5 DVD .iso file soon, or as soon as I get a chance to download and update the DVD install files, documentation files, etc.. I use Firefox 3.6.24 on my Ubuntu desktop, since it is the default one for their repository. I have to gone to Ubuntu 11.x due to their Unity desktop. I hate it. I would go to Mint, or other distro, but all seems to use a Unity or GNOME 3.x style desktop that is not the type of desktop environment I like to use. Actually I use a combination of GNOME 2.x desktop and KDE packages/system-tools, but I do not like the KDE default desktop itself. So I am currently stuck with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] US Tax Deductible Status
On 01/17/2012 06:48 AM, Stephen Leibowitz wrote: The LibreOffice and Document Foundation websites each have a donation page. I think they should mention if money contributions from US sources qualify as tax deductions. This would be most useful in the English language version of the websites. I am guessing that the following methods would not currently qualify: PayPal donations to donati...@documentfoundation.org Donations sent to Freies Office Deutschland e.V. and marked “The Document Foundation” PayPal donations may be used somehow, since I have heard of people using PayPal for their online payments. It is the other end that needs to be properly listed in the PayPal receipt documentation so it shows it is going as a donation and not just to buy something. You just have to get it to read and show properly for the tax people to know that it was a deductible donation. As for the below list, it has the charitable name in that list. Is TDF a charity or a foundation that you can use for tax deductions for your donations? That is a big difference. Another method is contributions to Software in the Public Interest (SPI) that are marked for use by The Document Foundation. This seems more likely to qualify, but should be confirmed. The LibreOffice website lists SPI as a channel for contributions. The Document Foundation website does not list SPI, and it should be added there. Here is the US Internal Revenue Service (IRS) search page for organizations eligible to receive tax-deductible charitable contributions: http://www.irs.gov/app/pub-78/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions and communication with extension provider, notification of comments
I have not seen any notice either. Also, there is a comment about not finding the extension[s] I posted not showing up with the Ubuntu 11.xx version of LO. Without being given some way to respond to the comment post, I cannot find out what is going on and tell the person how to fix the issue. The guy seems not to be able to see the extension in the extension manager, when it should be there. On 12/23/2011 10:48 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Hi all, Having made extensions available on the extensions website, I was under the understanding that I would be notified automatically by e-mail as soon as someone posted a comment, remark, problem, etc, but apparently this is not the case. Is this functionality implemented, or do I have something wrong in my extensions site profile ? Needless to say, it is not very inspiring to have to check whether someone has commented or not. If it can be corrected, it would be most helpful. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice xmas
Driving while emailing is dangerous. Be careful you do not get a load of bottle of coke in your lap. Actually there is a movement to ban [make it a crime] to text, email, etc., etc., while driving. With all the crazy drivers out there, you need to focus on the road and not on your smart-phone/tablet/etc.. For me, I have not seen a Coke Santa truck in person ever. They just do not come through my area when I am able to see them. Oh well, it is just fine by me. I wonder what it would be like to see a flat bed truck with a 3D reindeer and sleigh setup on its bed. That would be something to see, but could cause people to focus on what they want from Santa and not on the road. Then Santa will have to make a court appearance. We do not want to have him do that and not make our toys, now would we? Happy Holidays from the beautiful Finger Lakes Region of New York State, known for its landscape [hills and valleys] and its many, many, wineries. On 12/15/2011 07:07 PM, Helio S. Ferreira wrote: Just now, passed three trucks and a Coca Cola Santa Claus. Ho Ho Ho! 2011/12/15 Rogerio Luz Coelholuz.roge...@gmail.com: For your Christmas festiviteis chit chat at the end of thenight ... hopefully with a glass of whine or eggnog ... http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/heritage/cokelore_santa.html Rogerio : ) PS: loving this post ... I vote for Eliane's logo also ... but I am biased since she is Brasilian also ... and as I mentioned earlier, we sill rule the world ... after christmas :) 2011/12/15 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com Le 2011-12-15 07:28, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : I did create one based on the version with the cap on the logo - (took Elaine's svg and copy'n'pasted it on the current logo, I don't have the fonts installed, so I cannot export the svg directly). So tell me what you think (if you don't like it, don't forget to mention what can be done to improve the situation. Just stating I hate it won't really help :-)) ciao Christian Looks great! And thanks to Elaine as well. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+help@global.**libreoffice.orgwebsite%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquettehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/**website/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice.XX some sites do not work
On 12/16/2011 04:58 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2011-12-15 05:39: How many registration 2-digit country codes do we need? One for every country or language that LO supports? One for every country that has a group large enough to support its own 2-digit code? Is there any rulings on who gets to have a LibreOffice.xx domain? there are currently no fixed rules. The basic rule, although it sounds harsh, is: We own the trademark, so better ask us before you register anything. ;-) What we did in the past is that many people were so kind to register domains with LibreOffice or TDF upon our agreement. They either connected our DNS servers directly, or forwarded to our website, and agreed to transfer the domain name to TDF upon our request. For many countries, we cannot directly own the domain name, since you often need to be a resident of or incorporated in that country to be eligible for a registration. We have registered quite a few domain names on our own, but of course not for all countries. Hope that helps a bit, Florian That is why I registered LibreOffice-NA.us, instead of LibreOffice.US. I wanted it to look like a LibreOffice information site, but not one of the official sites. It is a project site that helps promote LO and the things that complement it. At that time, I did not see any page/text with suggested domain naming styles that someone like me could use to create their own web site that promotes LibreOffice and open-source. It would be nice to see one written out. Then, people will not make the mistake of making their domain be confused with one of the official LO sites. If I registered LibreOffice.info, then it would be too close to the official looking domains of LO. Adding the dash after LO was may way to stop that confusion, but still make it clear that the site was about LO. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice.XX some sites do not work
On 12/16/2011 08:39 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: On 12/16/11 10:58 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2011-12-15 05:39: How many registration 2-digit country codes do we need? One for every country or language that LO supports? One for every country that has a group large enough to support its own 2-digit code? Is there any rulings on who gets to have a LibreOffice.xx domain? there are currently no fixed rules. The basic rule, although it sounds harsh, is: We own the trademark, so better ask us before you register anything. ;-) What we did in the past is that many people were so kind to register domains with LibreOffice or TDF upon our agreement. They either connected our DNS servers directly, or forwarded to our website, and agreed to transfer the domain name to TDF upon our request. For many countries, we cannot directly own the domain name, since you often need to be a resident of or incorporated in that country to be eligible for a registration. We have registered quite a few domain names on our own, but of course not for all countries. Hope that helps a bit, Florian I think the easiest solution for those domains not being able to be owned why not point the domains to the TDF name servers and that way the TDF will have control over the DNS entries even if the domain isnt owned by the TDF? Regards Jonathan Aquilina Well, someone will have to own them. But having your owned domain name point to someone else's owned domain, might not be either able to be done or not quite legal. I know that if I create a domain with my registration service, they will not let me point it to any domain that is not my own. [Or not make it easy for someone to do it, since I did not see how on their site]. Does TDF own a dedicated IP address and DNS server reference IP address that belongs to them alone? If so, maybe it could happen with your description. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] has anyone tested out Tiki Wiki CMS service?
I know we use Silverstripe CMS for the service, but I was wondering if anyone tested out Tiki Wiki while looking for the CMS package to be used by TDF? Or, do anyone know someone who uses it? My hosting company has these three CMS packages usable for my account; MediaWiki, pmWiki, Twiki. I have read some articles about personal clouds, i.e. CMS packages used as clouds, and this was the only one that my hosting service has available from their very short list of CMS/cloud packages that can be used for personal use. I have a friend that really needs to use a personal web-based system that is like a cloud with CMS options. I thought of what TDF uses, but wanted to find something easier to use by less-tech-savvy people. So I am asking if anyone here has any knowledge of the three packages listed above, or at least Tiki Wiki [Twiki]? Since TDF did not just choose a CMS package without testing a few, I was hoping that maybe someone tested one of the ones I can access. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] has anyone tested out Tiki Wiki CMS service?
On 12/16/2011 10:34 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi *, On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I know we use Silverstripe CMS for the service, but I was wondering if anyone tested out Tiki Wiki while looking for the CMS package to be used by TDF? Nope - as the website is not to be edited by everyone just like the wiki is, but editing the main website should be restricted to trusted people. Or, do anyone know someone who uses it? My hosting company has these three CMS packages usable for my account; MediaWiki, pmWiki, Twiki. It depends on what you're aiming for. Editing by the public/everybody, then a wiki will do, editing by a restricted bunch → a regular cms will do. I have read some articles about personal clouds, i.e. CMS packages used as clouds, and this was the only one that my hosting service has available from their very short list of CMS/cloud packages that can be used for personal use. Sorry, don't understand what that implies regarding the features/requirements for the cms. I have a friend that really needs to use a personal web-based system that is like a cloud with CMS options. I thought of what TDF uses, but wanted to find something easier to use by less-tech-savvy people. Oh, check out the silverstripe 3 preview then - the UI got revamped. Or check out the wiki/front-end editing modules. (also the blog module allows creation of posts from the frontend - if that is what you mean more suited for less tech savy). So I am asking if anyone here has any knowledge of the three packages listed above, or at least Tiki Wiki [Twiki]? Since TDF did not just choose a CMS package without testing a few, I was hoping that maybe someone tested one of the ones I can access. What I learned when choosing a CMS: Don't trust words, try it for yourself. That's really the only real advice I can give you. Think about what is important for you. Need to change the visual appearance/the theme? then look what template framework is used. Wikis are hard to theme nicely - you'll almost always notice right from the beginning that you're looking at a wiki How many people will edit, do the people know html, etc. And for the website, a wiki was not taken into account (as wiki is a separate instance anyway, with different focus). ciao Christian What the article states is that Tiki Wiki and a few others would be good to use as personal clouds. What I think the guy wants is something the family could update or post files there for download. He is into geneology for the extended families. Also he is into other things that would require a cloud system to store the files, since he uses public library computers to do most of his work. He relies on me and others to place files online in places where he could either reference the files or copy them to the web work area he is using for the combination web page and file storage. The place is not the best for what he wants. The following is listed for the CMS option for my hosting service. SilverStripe is listed there, but I have had issues with the UI: anyInventory , Drupal, Joomla!®, Mambo, MODx, Moodle, Nucleus, PostNuke, SilverStripe, Xoops. He would never be able to figure out SilverStripe's UI. He is not very computer savvy. I do not want to be the one hosting the pages AND do the creation/editing for him, which might be a possibility if it is not easy to use for him. He is slightly cracked. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice xmas
The first image with the cap on the left of the icon works well, since it shows our icon well and can be used without the words. The second image works well, if there is no icon. The third image covers a needed part of the icon, identifying it as the LO logo/icon. So, I am not too fond of that one. I wonder how the words would look if they had snow covering their tops, like snow does to things if caught out in it. I have seen snow-topped lettering before, and it does work for Winter themed text/messages. But, here in the north there is snow, but in the southern countries like Australia, it is the summer season now. As for Santa, I like to see the old style of outfits that are part of Santa and Father Christmas past. I like the green long coat style, since it looked better and it reminded me of the green season of giving. But the old styles are not the popular styles made famous by advertisements. Actually in recent years they had to get rid of the pipe-smoking Santa due to health concerns. Soon, Santa will be thinning down since the fatter your are the less healthy your are, or so it is now part of the healthy life movements. So what we seen now for the standard image of Santa is not what he was in the past, and now what he will be in the future. On 12/15/2011 09:17 AM, Stefan Weigel wrote: Am 15.12.2011 13:28, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: So tell me what you think (if you don't like it, don't forget to mention what can be done to improve the situation. Just stating I hate it won't really help :-)) :-) ilikeit Stefan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice xmas
I like the Santa Hat, but not all cultures celebrate Christmas. Not all Christians do either. So there may be an issue with cultural based images. On 12/14/2011 12:27 PM, Eliane Domingos de Sousa wrote: Dear all, It's Christmas time and I was thinking about our website. I did a little modification in your logo and I am using in my social networks. I would like to propose to use the LibreOffice Xmas in your site during december. What do you think about that? Here the example: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/109302841731362777691/albums/posts/5686002544606842098 Best Eliane Domingos Brazilian LibreOffice Community -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice xmas
Personally, I like the image, but I am not the one who has the say in this matter. Santa Claus, Father Christmas, and all of the other name for that jolly fellow have different images as a part of their cultures. There must must be some way to celebrate the season that is acceptable for most. Happy Holidays and a Joyful New Year could be a good one, but that is not an image, but words. One day I will have to ask people of other faiths what they would prefer. On 12/14/2011 12:52 PM, Eliane Domingos de Sousa wrote: Hi I understand. Anyway ... just thoughts .. I'm sharing the file: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/3/35/Liboxmas.svg Best Eliane Domingos Brazilian LibreOffice Community Em 14-12-2011 15:44, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions escreveu: I like the Santa Hat, but not all cultures celebrate Christmas. Not all Christians do either. So there may be an issue with cultural based images. On 12/14/2011 12:27 PM, Eliane Domingos de Sousa wrote: Dear all, It's Christmas time and I was thinking about our website. I did a little modification in your logo and I am using in my social networks. I would like to propose to use the LibreOffice Xmas in your site during december. What do you think about that? Here the example: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/109302841731362777691/albums/posts/5686002544606842098 Best Eliane Domingos Brazilian LibreOffice Community -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice.XX some sites do not work
How many registration 2-digit country codes do we need? One for every country or language that LO supports? One for every country that has a group large enough to support its own 2-digit code? Is there any rulings on who gets to have a LibreOffice.xx domain? How far are we willing to go? LibreOffice.TV [.tv is actually an island nation's 2-digit code where - last time I knew - half of the money raised for registration goes to funding education and the other half goes to the company who got the contract to be the technical managers the .tv domain registrations] LibreOffice.US [is used?] LibreOffice.CA LibreOffice.GB LibreOffice.ZA LibreOffice.org.CA LibreOffice.com.CA LibreOffice.net.CA etc., etc. Actually we could buy the domain of LibreOffice.SUITE, if we had the big money needed to create such a domain name suffix. It was opened up this past year for you to have/create new domain suffixes as long as you paid the big fees. I do hope that no one decides to buy LibreOffice.XXX, which is a legal one, but that suffix was founded for the pron industry, but not truly limited to that. But seriously, there should be a published statement on what is the best policy on who should register a domain of LibreOffice.xx. I created LibreOffice-NA.US to mean a LibreOffice site based in North America and specifically in the USA. Also, adding the -NA after LibreOffice, I thought it could indicate that there is a project for LibreOffice with NA/North-America in its name. Or something like that. Maybe there could be LibreOffice-CA.?? for Central America project with a country 2-digit code for Panama or other country in Central America. We could use a guideline for domain naming. We can not enforce it, since anyone can register a domain that is not taken yet. But if we had a guideline ruling, it could be published somewhere, where is is easy to find. Then people could have some tips on what is the best ways to name a LibreOffice domain, or at least one that looks more professional and understandable to what it is to represent. pt.LibreOffice.org or LibreOffice.pt as Portuguese language version of the official LO web site. Then LibreOffice-HI.pt as a LibreOffice project with Portuguese as its default language , or like .us would be American/USA English as its default language or project location. It would be more professional for LibreOffice to publish such a guideline. It would make sense to do so. Also, if TDF/LO had the cash to do so, they should register most of the popular domain suffixes and country codes like .com, .net, .us, .ca, .info, .mobi, .me, .co, .biz, .asia, .tv, and so forth, and so forth. .tv cost about $40 a year, where .asia is about $20. .info is right now on sale for $2 instead of $12 per year. .info might be good. LibreOffice.Info as a web URL for information about LibreOffice. .org was originally for not-for-profit organizations or groups. Well, that is my 20 cents worth, instead of just 2 cents. On 12/14/2011 09:02 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Thanks for the info. Cheers Marc Le 2011-12-14 19:23, Rogerio Luz Coelho a écrit : Libreoffice.br is impossible to register ? ... it should be something like . org.br or .com.br actually our libreoffice.org.br redirects to pt-br.libreoffice.org ... cheers Rogerio 2011/12/14 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com Could someone check on the LibreOffice.ca; LibreOffice.us sites? They are not working. Maybe the DNS are wrong? Also, do we not own the LibreOffice.fr site? There are Google ads on the front page and footer. It doesn't look like a site that is run by the TDF. In fact it almost looks like LibreOffice is endorsing some PDF software which I doubt we are doing. Someone should look into this. All of the other NL LibreOffice.NL sites should be checked to see if they land on the appropriate pages. LibreOffice.ca is NOT WORKING LibreOffice.us is NOT WORKING LibreOffice.de is OK LibreOffice.es is OK LibreOffice.it is OK LibreOffice.jp is NOT WORKING LibreOffice.pt is NOT WORKING LibreOffice.br is NOT WORKING Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+help@global.**libreoffice.orgwebsite%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquettehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/**website/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?
[libreoffice-website] Subscribing error - email is spam [was] Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unwanted horizontal white hairline rule
Could someone help this person. Original Message Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unwanted horizontal white hairline rules in PDF in Mac Preview Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:31:15 - From: Steve Wassell stephen.wass...@btinternet.com Reply-To: us...@global.libreoffice.org To: us...@global.libreoffice.org Why am I getting these e-mails about white lines, I don't have any white lines This is not a good start First Libre Office has hijacked my word docs and turned them into Note Pad Then your users+subscr...@global.libreoffice.org e-mail address comes back as:- Wait for it!! Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. users+subscr...@global.libreoffice.org: Remote host said: 554 5.7.0 Reject, id=09370-06 - SPAM [BODY] Can I please have someone to help me with my problem or I will junk Libre and go back to Open Office.org!!! From: Tinkerer Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 3:44 PM To: us...@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unwanted horizontal white hairline rules in PDF in Mac Preview I have just viewed this in Adobe Acrobat and it is OK I imported it into Libre 3.4.4 on my iMac using Lion and found that the whole page is covered with a grid. The lines are vertical as well as horizontal. Tink -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Unwanted-horizontal-white-hairline-rules-in-PDF-in-Mac-Preview-tp3552492p3554946.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Subscribing error - email is spam [was] Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unwanted horizontal white hairline rule
On 12/03/2011 07:24 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2011-12-03 13:16: Could someone help this person. I'll follow-up on the mailing list issue (but only on that, not giving program support ;) Florian That is all I was thinking about. I had the same issue once. The email server's IP address that my domains user once got on the spam black list, since they had a spammer using their service. So all of the email domains were affected. I told him that in a off-list email. That might stop the complaint. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Templates-Website: Update for Naming of Downloadable Files
On 12/03/2011 08:12 AM, Andreas Mantke wrote: Hi, Am Samstag, 3. Dezember 2011, 00:49:30 schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press Productions: Will that work for my 11 files in the Dictionary listing? I did not want to have 11 separate listings in the list. Or would you rather have it that way - I did not think so. I still will use the External Hosting option for now. That works with keeping the file names whole. I do not know why the removing of the .oxt makes it look at a .bin file. that's a very easy issue. The recognition of the mime-type works in the environment from the title-line or (if there is no title) from the file-extension. If you write a title without the extension then it would be recognized as bin-file. Regards, Andreas I will look at the title line fix. I have some internal work to do on my dictionaries. Once that is done, I will upload the updated info. I think I listed the dictionaries as version 1.0. I think that would will make it version 1.2, since it just a fix of what is found inside the .oxt file. Also I want to do a sort sequence to make sure the spelling list is correctly sorted. I also forgot to check if it had words like LibreOffice, LO, OpenOffice.com, OOo, etc., etc.. One English dictionary word list did not even have the word dictionary in it. So I want to make sure mine have the words that are part of our language use. Is it FOSS, or F.O.S.S. for free open source software? Once I have the modified files ready, I might split the dictionaries off to 3 listings; American English [4 files], British English [4 files], and Canadian English [3 files]. I wish I had an Oxford English word list[s], since the one that I have from the .oxt file I found had about 40,000 words. My lowest word list for British English is about 98,000 and the largest is about 638,000 words. I think it might be better with the split, but might not. Since I currently host the files with the External Hosted option, all I need to do is update the .oxt files on my hosting service. When I decide to have the file hosted on LO's servers, it will not be as easy. What I would like to see is the links to the .oxt files be better. All of the file use the same text for the link; Download file Get American British Canadian - spelling/hyphen/thesaurus dictionaries for All platforms instead of the file name. [see below] Since I have several files, this link text seems to come from the title line, not the file name of the externally hosted file[s]. It would be better to have the file names listed for the link name, but it may not be easy to do that. So if I split the 3 languages, I would have a smaller number of listings shown on the first page of the listing. Now, if you go to the More about this release... link, you get each file link with each file description as the link, instead of the same text for each link. So, do you think I should split the 3 languages with each having a separate listing? Should I have LO's servers host the files, or should I continue to host them on my server? I would be changing the URL, since I will be placing them in their own folder instead in the folder of one of the online DVD testing files/folders. . --- _Download file Get American British Canadian - spelling/hyphen/thesaurus dictionaries for All platforms_ American English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 98,000+ word list _Download file Get American British Canadian - spelling/hyphen/thesaurus dictionaries for All platforms_ American English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 217,000+ word list _Download file Get American British Canadian - spelling/hyphen/thesaurus dictionaries for All platforms_ American English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 390,000+ word list Available downloads _American English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 98,000+ word list_ For All platforms (5.2 MB) _American English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 217,000+ word list_ For All platforms (5.5 MB) _American English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 390,000+ word list_ For All platforms (6.0 MB) _American English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 638,000+ word list_ For All platforms (6.7 MB) _British English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 98,000+ word list_ For All platforms (5.2 MB) _British English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 217,000+ word list_ For All platforms (5.5 MB) _British English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 390,000+ word list_ For All platforms (6.0 MB) _British English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 638,000+ word list_ For All platforms (6.0 MB) _Canadian English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 217,000+ word list_ For All platforms (5.5 MB) _Canadian English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 390,000+ word list_ For All platforms (6.0 MB) _Canadian English - hyphenation, thesaurus, 638,000+ word list_ For All platforms (6.7 MB) . -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing
Re: [libreoffice-website] test-Forum board structure
How about Math, Macros, and Misc? Would TDF include the Wiki and web site stuff [ie CMS and other stuff] ? Would there be sub categories for 3.3.4, 3.4.x line, and 3.5.x line? On 12/02/2011 11:33 AM, drew wrote: On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 09:30 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2011-12-01 05:37, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit : snip TDF, Writer, Calc, Impress, Base What others are needed? snip Hi Marc, Jonathon, et al I would also like to see general categories where people can talk of LibreOffice in a specific and general way -- a LibreOffice Community Hub. We also need to do a better job at community building if we are serious about this. Maybe the hierarchy could look like this: Alright - looking over you ideas here on a small break, will have some time in a few hours and will have this email open while putting more scaffolding and flesh to the test installation - will send a DM via the forum to you when I start, an email to the list when at a good stop point. I'll tell you it looks a little over detailed as I read the outline, first time through, also IMO it's not really the moment to cross every T and dot every I in structure, just enough so to see how the phpBB feature set would lean towards one solution (or one guys view of that) - then - will explain my thinking in that reply email as I go though the admin screens, which should help with some more focused pro / con of the available packages. Of course you and Jonathon have the necessary access to alter board structure also - don't feel you have to hold back simply because I'm pushing keys right now. @Christian - When you get a chance, later today, would you update the rudolf account on the jForum 2.3 instance with enough access to alter the structures there also. I'd like to really look that over also. Best wishes, //drew [LibreOffice Apps (Need Help? Ask Here!] Writer Calc Impress Draw Math Base Accessibility Extensions Templates [Package Support] * Installation and Configuration (single or home network installation and configuration) * Medium/Large Scale Installations (installation; configuration; management) * * Security and Performance * General Questions (related to support only) * Distribution Feedback and Suggestions (general feedback; platform; wishlist) [Community Feedback] * TDF News (news and foundation updates) * LibreOffice Community News or LibreOffice Café (general updates on our community; event updates and news; what are other NL groups up to?) * LibreOffice in the News (what the world thinks of LibreOffice and our community) * LibreOffice in Business (case studies and showcases [NOT A SUPPORT AREA!]) * * LibreOffice in Education (case studies and showcases [NOT A SUPPORT AREA!]) * I am not sure if we would need a dev section. I think the devs are comfortable with the lists and IRC. The coding concerns coming from users would find their way in the Apps section of the forums. Same thing for bug reports and bug results. * We need to encourage talk of medium/large scale installations in business and education. This will also create buzz around LibreOffice and show that we also offer support and guidance for these installations. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Extensions-Templates-Website: Update for Naming of Downloadable Files
Will that work for my 11 files in the Dictionary listing? I did not want to have 11 separate listings in the list. Or would you rather have it that way - I did not think so. I still will use the External Hosting option for now. That works with keeping the file names whole. I do not know why the removing of the .oxt makes it look at a .bin file. On 12/02/2011 03:04 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: Hi, there were an issue with the names of the downloadable files. There was the option to set a specific title (name) for the downloadable file. This causes an issue, because the user gets an information in his browser, that this is a bin-file and the file association with LibreOffice doesn't work. The user had to rename the downloaded file to e.g. *.oxt. There was a workaround to avoid this problem. The contributor had to fill in the file name in the title line. I solved this issue now. The name of the uploaded file creates the file name automatically. Regards, Andreas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] searching the extension repository
On 11/29/2011 06:44 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Drew, *, On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:55 PM, drewd...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 13:24 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:22 AM, drewd...@baseanswers.com wrote: ps - it doesn't. It does - when you set the version filter to all versions Howdy Christian, So it does. One thing, the search filter is Any version not All ... and that is a huge difference. Indeed it is labelled Any version Not sure how hard it would be to always show the ones that work in all versions. As long as you really mean any then yes I think that would make sense - in that it makes sense to have the drop down default to Any and in effect turn the version filter off. ( All btw would be, IMO, the most restrictive version filter, and would really not make any sense) I somewhat agree. ALL will be useless when more and more versions will be added. OTOH, extensions that do work with older versions, will also work with newer versions. I cannot think of a case where you are searching for 3.4 compatible extensions, Well, you would not want to waste the users time showing them extensions that do not work in their particular environment. Heh, don't rip the sentence apart like this :-) Though I would suspect this is more likely with major version changes: ie 3.x vs 4.x. but don't want results that work in older ones as well, This belongs to the above - so when searching for 3.4 compatible ones, you don't want to exclude those that also work with 3.3, do you? same for the other way round - cannot think of a usecase to search for extensions that work with 3.3, but not with 3.4. However I can think of wanting to make sure they work in both versions (although it is unlikely that the one that did work in 3.3 won't work in 3.4, it is of course possible, especially when thinking about the changes in Impress in OOo). But then again the all or any will not be of any use. The real solution is to default tocurrent version that will also include those extensioned labeled to work in previous version and later. and make the selection a multi-selection aware control instead of single option. ciao Christian Right now, it would be nice for the Any Version to be default for the search. What would be nice is to have a search option for OS dependant extensions. Most extension will work on Windows, Linux, and MacOSX version of LO, but there are some that have different version for different OSs. If the extension does not have a version for Linux, but it does for Windows, there should be some search parameter for that. My dictionary extensions were built on a Linux system, but were made to run on all the version of LO. So it would be in the Any OS catagory. The extensions that have separate version for the different OS should be listed as such, somehow. The extensions that only have a Windows version should be listed differently that ones that has versions for all of the supported OSs [Windows, Linux, and MacOSX]. This Extension Center is still a work-in-progress, and will change as time goes by as it becomes better for the users to work with it. Yet, it is working well to find what you want or need. One day, when there are 50, 100, 200, or more extension, we will need a test search option. - Also, I was wondering how easy it would be to add version 3.5 to the extension already listed? The dictionaries should work with the 3.5.x version of LO without modifications. So how easy will it be for me to add that version to my extensions? Right now it is listed as supporting the 3.3 and 3.4 versions. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] TDF shops (Fw: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Someone wants to setup demo shop with CafePress?)
Get hats and polo-style shirts listed there and it would be nice. And yes, we need design people to make a set of items with the same logo/saying/mascot across a full line. Then do the same with other versions. Funny and Business-like versions. On 11/30/2011 10:50 AM, Thorsten Behrens wrote: would someone volunteer setting up a http://shop.libreoffice.org landing page, that would then link to http://libreoffice.spreadshirt.dk and others as they become available? FWIW, trying to fight cafepress currently to have a prototype shop there as well... FWIW, less-prototype now - http://www.cafepress.com/thedocumentfoundationstore At some point in time, of course the design team might have input here as well ... :) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Evaluation of phpbb
Sounds like phpBB is not going to work. For my hosting company, they include 3 forum options: phpBB, SMF[Simple Machines Forum], and Vanilla Forum. I will talk to people I know who have used forums and see which ones are the best for them. On 11/28/2011 09:39 AM, Alexander Werner wrote: Hi, as it was decided to also provide forums, I installed a test instance of phpbb on saturday during my spare time at Linuxday in Dornbirn. It is currently available at http://forum-test.libreoffice.org (this URL is probably going to change to http://forum-test.libreoffice.org/phpbb if other forums are also evaluated). Everyone feel free to register and test, if you want additional rights please ping me. During installation I encountered some quite troubling issues, most of them of purely technical nature. Let me first describe the setup: - I used postgresql instead of mysql as database backend because of speed, transaction safety, scalability, and various other reasons. (I see postgresql as a must-have for any forum software we might use) - During setup, I set the table prefix from phpbb_ to . (Bad mistake) After the initial setup, which worked quite well, I tried to install some plugins (MODs in phpbb-language). But I was confronted with the fact that there is no default way of installing these. The first thing I found out was that there is a special xml-based format used to distribute mods. After more searching, I figured out that I needed to install the Automod-Mod to install Mods. As there seems to be no official documentation for AutoMod, I read some tutorials in the forums and got to install AutoMod. As the installation procedure includes an install directory and phpbb refuses to run if such a directory exists, the forums are offline during the installation. This is not su much of a problem if you are installing from scratch. But when doing updates in a live forum this is very annoying for the users. Also there is no update notification or automatic update process for AutoMod as it seems, so admins have to watch the AutoMod website closely for security patches. Now I wanted to install the phpBB OpenID MOD. This mod is not included in the official mod-database but hosted on a third party site. Installation directly by URL is not possible, the MOD must be downloaded and uploaded via the AutoMOD webinterface. After uploading the MOD and starting the installation procedure, an xsl-translated xml file was presented to me. This file showed everything that the AutoMOD installer had done to the phpbb installation. And what I saw was quite shocking (this is not only true for the above mentioned MOD, but also for many others in the official database): The MOD patches phpbb vanilla files. Not only php files, but also the included templates. This is NOT GOOD. Why you may ask? - Updating the phpbb-core may break MODs - MODs can break each other (the installation order of independent MODs may even be important!) - You can't simply copy and adopt the theme, as the vanilla themes are patched to include additional features - Updating MODs means removing the patches and reapplying the new patch. This can go terribly wrong in so many ways! *Every* other serious web application handles plugins/mods/modules/whatever by separating them into their own directory. Okay, after successfully installing and configuring the OpenID MOD, I saw that the theme the MOD was made for was a bit broken (nothing you couldn't fix with some css). But the MOD didn't work at all. Reasons for this seemed to be me chossing to have no table prefix (The table prefix is hardcoded in many MODs) and choosing postgresql (MODs mostly only support mysql). The next thing I tried was getting postgresql native fulltext search working, as most application implementations of fulltext indexing result in huge (and later d*** slow) indexes. MySQL indexing never was a choice because the tradeoff would have been losing transactions. Gladly, I found a quite simple extension (I wouldn't call it MOD as no patching and other horrible stuff involved ;) ) in a forum thread[1] that promised to allow postgresql full text search. Unfortunately, I had to use the original extension, replace one file with the one appended to forum thread page three and merge changes made in a github repo and those on page 4. (Sounds fun, doesn't it?) Now I reindexed everything and... Search worked, except for the fact that every search term was ignored because it was to common. Btw: Drew, was it you posting in this thread? Did it finally work for you? Now I tried to change the theme to make it look a bit more LibO-ish. Unfortunately, theme editing seems to only work reliably using editor of the ACP (AdminControlPanel). Editing the files on filesystem level was ignored, even after emptying all caches and restarting the webserver. This are my experiences with phpBB for the moment, some more thoughts: - There are always SIDs in the URL. This is potentially dangerous (session fixation
Re: [libreoffice-website] choice of forum software (was: Evaluation of phpbb)
I am still waiting for a return email about which forum software is being used for some of the places I go. Look at this forum. This is one I use to go to daily. This is the second package that they used. Actually they are having their pages hosted free by a company, so they did not choose it. It is nice though. If it can be modified to look better for LO's look and option, then it might be worth looking at. http://www.setiusa.us/forum.php On 11/28/2011 03:53 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Flo, Alex, *, On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2011-11-28 17:07: Yeah... Sounds like a pain in the ass... May I request to try JForum? while using Java-based stuff sounds ugly, of course I'd be happy to see it in action. ;) Best is to ask Alex for access to the VM. Alex, may I have access to the VM please? Feel free to already install tomcat (or another java servlet container in that case :-) ciao Christian PS: It would be really tempting to use hsql as database backend (no joking here, I'm serious) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] choice of forum software (was: Evaluation of phpbb)
Well their old one worked well, so I will be asking about that one. On 11/28/2011 04:07 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi *, On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:00 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I am still waiting for a return email about which forum software is being used for some of the places I go. Most if not all forum software advertises itself either in the footer or in the html-sourcecode. [...] http://www.setiusa.us/forum.php This is vbulletin - it is proprietary and thus disqualified from the very start. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] What does this mean?
On the CMS system: Sending request to north-america.libreofficebox.org mean? Is it uploading the file or is requesting that the file to be uploaded? After about 1.5 hours, I still have this message showing, but the bar showing how much of the action has taken place or how much of a percentage of the time needed to do the item has been completed. I have 3 and 1/2 stars out of 7[?] on the bottom bar of the Firefox 3.x browser on Ubuntu 10.04LTS. I am doing a FTP upload right now [with this CMS site request], so my Broadband's upload speed is maxed out at 120K+ . It takes a long time to upload files. 3 GB could take 9 hours to upload while it takes less than 20 minutes to download the same amount. So I have set up the Filezilla FTP client to do its job several hours ago to upload the 3.4.4 install files for Windows/Linux/MacOSX. I am finally updated the libreoffice-na.us 3.4.3 pages to 3.4.4 installs for both Windows-only and Win/Linux/Mac pages. I am uploading the W-L-M installs now, and tomorrow the Win-only installs with the install and dictionary updated page files for both versions. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] What does this mean?
On 11/28/2011 06:59 PM, drew wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:52 -0500, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: On the CMS system: Sending request to north-america.libreofficebox.org mean? Is it uploading the file or is requesting that the file to be uploaded? Sending the file - or pieces of it would be more likely. But if the file is more then 30 megs (maybe it's 32) it will fail. Where did that figure come from? After about 1.5 hours, I still have this message showing, but the bar showing how much of the action has taken place or how much of a percentage of the time needed to do the item has been completed. I have 3 and 1/2 stars out of 7[?] on the bottom bar of the Firefox 3.x browser on Ubuntu 10.04LTS. how big is the file? Larger than 30 Meg. I am doing a FTP upload right now [with this CMS site request], so my Broadband's upload speed is maxed out at 120K+ . It takes a long time to upload files. 3 GB could take 9 hours to upload while it takes less than 20 minutes to download the same amount. So I have set up the Filezilla FTP client to do its job several hours ago to upload the 3.4.4 install files for Windows/Linux/MacOSX. I am finally updated the libreoffice-na.us 3.4.3 pages to 3.4.4 installs for both Windows-only and Win/Linux/Mac pages. I am uploading the W-L-M installs now, and tomorrow the Win-only installs with the install and dictionary updated page files for both versions. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Why are so many Extensions listed with no ability to download them?
A few days ago, I was looking at what extension there were in the Extension Center's list. I was surprised at the fact that there were many that did not have any downloadable software available to use. Most of these listed extensions show No stable release available yet, with one I know of having 2 likes for an extension we cannot download and try to let the users know if we like it or not. So is there some issue in the allowed viewer check list, that was needed when I created a listing? Or, is there some other thing going on that prevents the users for seeing a file to be downloaded. I know there is still an issue with the dropped media extension for some of the listings, but all you may need to do is add the .oxt to the file after it is downloaded. But, having no file to be downloaded is another issue entirely. I would like to test out some of these extensions, since they look useful to me. I have not looked, much, at the Template list, but I bet this issue might be there as well. Any ideas about what is going on? Any ideas on how a user can get the listed software? Should we allow an extension/template be listed if there is no file to test out? One of the extension had a comment about how he/she could get the extension on this site, or were they required to go to the OOo site and download it from there. For the dictionaries needed/wanted, I have most of the dictionaries listed on the LibreOffice-NA.US site http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html plus some of the non-dictionary extension and some templates downloadable there as well. Hopefully most of these listed .oxt files will be available in the Extension and Template centers soon. The question would be for those extensions/templates that are no longer supported and the authors are either unknown or unreachable. Will those files ever be linked as part of one of the lists? There are some dictionaries that have not been updated for 3 or more years. There are many that have not been updated since 2008 and even a few from 2003 and 2004. I say that these may not be supported anymore, but still usable for those people who need a dictionary for that specific language. Will we have a method for including these files in the centers? These are my observations and concerns. LO needs to have the largest list of these templates, extensions, and dictionaries. We do not want to have our users need to go to OOo's listings, or even my LO DVD testing site to get what is wanted/needed by our users. LO's centers need to be the preferred online place to get these files. The DVD sites would be just a place showing what can be found offline on specific DVDs created for localized regions. Tim L. webmaster at LibreOffice-NA.US -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Why are so many Extensions listed with no ability to download them?
For my dictionary extensions, I used the externally hosted option. Since I can have my offerings placed onto one of my domains, I can use that option. So it links to the externally hosted file, instead of the hosting on the LO server system. I wonder when this file extension stripping will get fixed. When I tried to deal with the CMS editing for some of the pages for a project, I uploaded some files and the filenames were modified. It replaced or removed the underline _ character in the file names. I did not like that. But this stripping of the file extension type is a worse action to my feeling. Hopefully it will be fixed soon. Otherwise, some people might need some other way to do it. For me, I would offer anyone who wants to have a place to host their .oxt files till the system works. I could create an FTP account for them to upload their files to - limited folder size though. If you want to have me place you files on one of my domains, I would. You can contact me off this list about options you could use, including an FTP accessible folder off one of my domains. . On 11/20/2011 11:19 AM, Michael Bauer wrote: Yes I do. I've already emailed Andreas Mantke about this but I'll gladly sum up my main points again. Please take this as constructive criticism, I certainly want this project to succeed :) The process is fiendishly complicated and rather cryptic. Now, I apologise for being slightly vague, having only one extension I did not go through the process more than once and I wasn't making notes, so this is from memory. 1) The window where one uploads the extensions is crackers. Mine is a spellchecker, something.oxt. I selected the file and moved one. But in the process of uploading, the .oxt was stripped and in some *other* window where I was asked for a name (I think) it neither stated (nor did it occur to me) that I have to add the .oxt onto the filename again. Why? If I'm uploading .oxt, then the system should recognise this. Also, I suspect that most people already have given their desired name to their extensions, so the option of renaming seems rather superfluous. At no point was there a warning either that my extension was unworkable due to a lack of .oxt. Fortunately someone spotted this when testing and we fixed it... but that's slightly mad. 2) Too many obscure windows. In the process, I'm asked to name and version my extension several times but on neither occassion was it obvious to me what actually went where in the end. For some reasons - and I don't seem to be able to change that though I'Ve certainly tried - mine is now called Current Release An Dearbhair Beag - Scottish Gaelic Spellchecker an-dearbhair and the Version is an-dearbhair I certainly didn't want the current release to be that long or the version to be text... but I still can't figure how to amend those bits. Maybe I'm just more used to it but the OO extension site was a lot easier to handle. If you want to check out the mess I managed to create, see http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/an-dearbhair-beag-scottish-gaelic-spellchecker Salude e trigu, Michael 20/11/2011 16:03, sgrìobh webmaster for Kracked Press Productions: Any ideas about what is going on? Any ideas on how a user can get the listed software? Should we allow an extension/template be listed if there is no file to test out? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Why are so many Extensions listed with no ability to download them?
On 11/20/2011 05:07 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: Hi, Am Sonntag, 20. November 2011, 20:20:56 schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press Productions: For my dictionary extensions, I used the externally hosted option. Since I can have my offerings placed onto one of my domains, I can use that option. So it links to the externally hosted file, instead of the hosting on the LO server system. you could do that, but I think it is not necessary any more. I examined the situation and looked into the code and I think I found the issue. The naming of the file needs the complete file name (including file extension), that you'll upload. I added an explanation about this. What do you mean by this? When you click on the file for upload, it gets the complete file name, does it not? Of are you saying the file should be like this: dictionary.oxt will need to be renamed dictionary.oxt.oxt? I am for anything that would fix this issue, as long as when it is downloaded, the user will not have to add their own extension name to the file. I know that this is not a very user friendly behavior, but I think it is a solution for short. I hope I get enough free spare time to find a better solution. I'm open for proposals (the code is online available in my gitrepo on github.com). Regards, Andreas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] JRE download link
I just went to this site and then use their download link to get to http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp;. For Windows there is only two options Online and Offline installs with both dealing with jre-6u29-windows-i586-s.exe. So there is not 32-bit and 64-bit version for Windows. Linux, on the other hand, does have 32-bit and 64-bit versions. To be honest, I still would rather just get the update for the JRE from the repositories. BUT, for those who want to latest and greatest JRE, you can download the latest version for Linux and install it. Also, there is information about why Java 7 is not available for users yet. quote: Why is Java SE 7 not yet available on java.com? The new release of Java is first made available to the developers to ensure no major problems are found before we make it available on the java.com website for end users to download the latest version. If you are interested in trying Java SE 7 it can be downloaded from Oracle.com unquote: On 11/17/2011 05:28 AM, Alexandre Silveira wrote: Sugestion: go to http://www.java.com/ (from Oficial Oracle) and gon to others downloads and select your O.S. and bit version. Latest JVM from oracle (stable ones). Alex Em 17/11/2011 05:04, Jonathan Aquilina escreveu: On 17/11/2011 01:55, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I do not remember seeing a separate 32-bit and 64-bit version of Java's JRE on their site. At least for Windows there was no different versions. Windows version is listed as i586 as in jre-6u22-windows-i586.exe For Linux version, all you have to do is go to your Package Manager and install the default JRE listed. It is sort of weird that even the latest Ubuntu installs [11.04 and 11.10] that automatically installs LO does not install the JRE as well. Last week, I did a test install of Ubuntu 11.10, Kubuntu 11.10, and Mint 11 [Debian based now], and all three install LO without installing the default JRE package. On 11/16/2011 07:21 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Antanas, *, 2011/11/16 Antanas Budriūnasantan...@gmail.com: I got a proposal from one of FLOSS actyvists in Lithuania about including JRE download link into http://lt.libreoffice.org download section. Putting a download link is not a problem. Just make sure that the users get the stable/release version and understand that they need a 32bit version when using 32bit version of LibreOffice, and 64bit when using 64bit version of LibreOffice. ciao Christian Not trying to hijack this thread but i installed a windows bootcamp partition on my imac and i went to java.sun.com which redirects to the oracle java page, and if you hit get java now it takes you to the java 7 versions but you can find older. then once you choose if you want just the jre or both jdk and jre it takes you too the download page where you will see both a 32bit version and 64bit versions. I have asked in the past and its ok to have both 32bit and 64bit versions installed sideby side. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] JRE download link
I wonder why the All Downloads page does not have the 64-bit Windows option shown? On 11/17/2011 09:18 AM, drew wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 15:04 +0100, Erich Christian wrote: Hi Tim, Am 17.11.2011 14:58, schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press Productions: I just went to this site and then use their download link to get to http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp;. For Windows there is only two options Online and Offline installs with both dealing with jre-6u29-windows-i586-s.exe. So there is not 32-bit and 64-bit version for Windows. Calling this site from a 64 windows machine offers this choice. Perhaps a quick read of http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml#Java%20for% 2064-bit would help answer some questions. //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] friendly neighbourhood grammar nazi
I know that there are one or two grammar extensions for LO, but which one is the best for American/US English. For someone with my inability to see grammar mistakes, it would be great to have one running. People who have Dyslexia, or had a stroke [I suffer from both], could really use a good grammar checker. But that checker needs to have suggestions, not just state that there is a grammar error in the sentence. Any advice on which one is the better one? It needs to work with .deb based Linux and Windows. These are the two systems I use, with Ubuntu-based Linux as my default one. On 11/15/2011 05:57 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Benjamin, *, On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Benjamin Richbenjamin.r...@gmail.com wrote: We do not distinguish between commits that were imported from the OOo code base and those *that* went directly into the LibreOffice code base as: Thanks, changed, ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] web site download install type error
On 11/11/2011 06:52 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Cor, *, On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote (11-11-11 01:25) I noticed today, while working with a 32-bit DEB based server, that when I go to the download page for 3.4.4, the page chooses 32-bit RPM instead of the 32-bit DEB version. It happened with Ubuntu 11.04 and Mint 11. This behaviour is as you may expect it from the website. Selecting the type of Linux package is what you have to do. Well - yes. It defaults to RPM unless it can tell from the browser's identification string that it is ubuntu or debian. As those are the only ones who did alter the user-agent string. There has been some discussion on this is the past. I also once had the idea that it was new, that I had to do that choice myself. People convinced me that I must have been confused ;-) Well, not confused just that the broswer's response doesn't give a hint anymore. The detection uses: navigator.platform for the OS and 32bit vs 64bit detection navigator.userAgent for trying to guess the package format (if it contains *buntu, debian, iceweasel → deb, otherwise rpm) navigator.language / navigator.userLanguage for getting the language. If you know a way on how to detect debian/ubuntu more reliably, don't hesitate to share your knowledge :-) You can check on this page what the values your browser reports are: http://jsfiddle.net/ZZRSk/embedded/result/ If you think that any info can be used to derive ah, this is a deb-user, then please share the results :-) ciao Christian Well I was using Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10 with their default versions of Firefox on a 32-bit system. It detected the 32-bit English, but not the need for a DEB install. The same for Linux Mint 11. It is based on Ubuntu and it now getting more users since it has not gone to Unity as Ubuntu did. I never failed to see the type of install I needed before. It detected Windows properly and it detected Ubuntu's 10.10 and 10.04 properly for both 32-bit and 64-bit. It just was when I went to that page with OSs that were Ubuntu 11.xx based. I wonder if Firefox 4.x and up could be the issue? I use 3.x.x with Ubuntu 10.xx and the same for Windows. I do not like the new look for FF and I avoid it if possible. Ubuntu/Mint 11.xx used FF 4.x.x as its default. Could you add to the list Linux Mint as a detected value for DEBs? Also, I ran that browser detail link and it only showed that the OS was Linux, not Ubuntu, Mint, DEB or RPM based. . -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] web site download install type error
I wonder is there could be some hint given on the download page. It it detects Linux as the OS, then a text could be displayed with the type of Linux and its known file type need. That would help some people who might get the choice wrong. I know that would be just a matter of making a list of the known, or most common, distros of Linux and then matching up whether it uses DEBs or RPMs for the download. That should be easy to make the case statement in Javascript, and easy to add more distros as they come to the forefront of the popular Linux versions. As I stated somewhere, Mint is gathering a lot of users [according to an article] who want Debian/Ubuntu based OS, but do not want to deal with Unity. I just tried Unity yesterday and I hate it. When I end up taking my Ubuntu 10.xx desktop to a newer Ubuntu-based OS, I will have to go to Mint if I want to avoid Unity. I could not find a place to default that Ubuntu 11.10 system to GNOME that 11.04 defaulted to when it when to from 10.10 to 11.04 on the upgrade. The 11.04 to 11.10 decided that it had the resources that 11.04 stated my system did not have, and defaulted to Unity. Since this was a clean install, with no data on the computer, I went to Mint. Actually I used Mint's OEM install to see how it was used to set up a system by a company before it was shipped to the user for them to setup their own account info. On 11/11/2011 09:08 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:36 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: On 11/11/2011 06:52 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: [...] You can check on this page what the values your browser reports are: http://jsfiddle.net/ZZRSk/embedded/result/ If you think that any info can be used to derive ah, this is a deb-user, then please share the results :-) [...] It just was when I went to that page with OSs that were Ubuntu 11.xx based. I wonder if Firefox 4.x and up could be the issue? I use 3.x.x with Ubuntu 10.xx and the same for Windows. I do not like the new look for FF and I avoid it if possible. Ubuntu/Mint 11.xx used FF 4.x.x as its default. Once again: The info is queried using javascript, and what you get of course depends on the browser, as the browser is who gives the reply. And the distribution can be obtained/guessed from the userAgent string at best. But if it is a vanilla, unmodified string, you cannot have any informatin to judge, and hence you need to choose a default. Could you add to the list Linux Mint as a detected value for DEBs? Does the information shown on the jsfiddle page allow to derive that it is linux Mint that is being used? Also, I ran that browser detail link and it only showed that the OS was Linux, not Ubuntu, Mint, DEB or RPM based. So - how would you determine that it is linux mint? If you know a way, share it. Once it is know that mint is used, the debs can be chosen. But the problem is that you cannot tell whether the user is running mint, fedora, debian, mandriva, mageia, unless there is a hint in the useragent string. And historically only debian and ubuntu who copied many things from debian did have a modified useragent string. Again: If you know a way to derive information about the distro/deb/rpm by means of javascript, then please share it and it will be added. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] web site download install type error
I am now talking about having some text displayed when it detects it is being viewed by a Linux system. something like --- For Debian and Ubuntu based distributions [plus others] that use DEB install files please use that install version. These distributions include, among others; Debian, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Linux Mint, . . . . . . For Red Hat and Fedora based distributions [plus others] the use the RPM install files, please choose that install version These distributions included, among others; Red Hat, Fedora . . . . . If you do not know which type you use, please consult you OS documentation. --- All you have to do is fill in the most popular distro versions for DEB installs and RPM installs lists. All you are going to do is display the text when the page detects it is being viewed by a Linux OS. You do not need to check any other variable that might be passed on via the browser about the system. If it does pass on OS specifics like it is a Debian based OS, then you can display something or use that for some other default display method. Maybe some text about double checking the install type given to make sure it is the one that you are to use for your download and install. On 11/11/2011 11:09 AM, Mas/_gemini wrote: Sound very simple. But how would you determine if their system uses rpm or Deb? This information is not transmitted in the request header of http. On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:43 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: As I said, if you determine that the viewer is using Linux, then display on the page below the detected type - ie. 64-bit DEB English - a list of Linux distros that their proper type of install. Maybe state that some system do not show their type withing the browser and that you can use this list to make sure you choose the correct install version. You display this message every time you detect the viewer is using a Linux OS for their system. Then you have only one detection variable to use. If Linux display the text, otherwise do not. Simple, right? On 11/11/2011 10:17 AM, Mas/_gemini wrote: Hello, Under Ubuntu 11.04 , you can set the default login on the login screen to ubuntu classic. This will disable unity for that user. In regards to the download page, I really do not see a way to determine the Distro via the browser unless the code accesses the user system. The distro data is normally included in a file under /etc for example under centos the distro info is in /etc/redhat-release and under ubuntu /etc/lsb-release cat lsb-release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Ubuntu 11.10 The browser only shows the core kernel data build which is Linux 1386 or x64 . Same for windows and Apple. Mas On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.comwrote: I wonder is there could be some hint given on the download page. It it detects Linux as the OS, then a text could be displayed with the type of Linux and its known file type need. That would help some people who might get the choice wrong. I know that would be just a matter of making a list of the known, or most common, distros of Linux and then matching up whether it uses DEBs or RPMs for the download. That should be easy to make the case statement in Javascript, and easy to add more distros as they come to the forefront of the popular Linux versions. As I stated somewhere, Mint is gathering a lot of users [according to an article] who want Debian/Ubuntu based OS, but do not want to deal with Unity. I just tried Unity yesterday and I hate it. When I end up taking my Ubuntu 10.xx desktop to a newer Ubuntu-based OS, I will have to go to Mint if I want to avoid Unity. I could not find a place to default that Ubuntu 11.10 system to GNOME that 11.04 defaulted to when it when to from 10.10 to 11.04 on the upgrade. The 11.04 to 11.10 decided that it had the resources that 11.04 stated my system did not have, and defaulted to Unity. Since this was a clean install, with no data on the computer, I went to Mint. Actually I used Mint's OEM install to see how it was used to set up a system by a company before it was shipped to the user for them to setup their own account info. On 11/11/2011 09:08 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:36 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: On 11/11/2011 06:52 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: [...] You can check on this page what the values your browser reports are: http://jsfiddle.net/ZZRSk/embedded/result/ If you think that any info can be used to derive ah, this is a deb-user, then please share the results :-) [...] It just was when I went to that page with OSs that were Ubuntu 11.xx based. I wonder if Firefox 4.x and up could be the issue? I use 3.x.x with Ubuntu 10.xx and the same for Windows. I
[libreoffice-website] web site download install type error
I noticed today, while working with a 32-bit DEB based server, that when I go to the download page for 3.4.4, the page chooses 32-bit RPM instead of the 32-bit DEB version. It happened with Ubuntu 11.04 and Mint 11. It always chose the 64-bit DEB properly for my Ubuntu 10.xx, so this is new for me. Thought someone might want to look into it. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Fwd: [libreoffice-users] How do I report an error in Help web pages?
I think this message need to be listed here, so I forwarded it and told the user I would do so. Original Message Subject:[libreoffice-users] How do I report an error in Help web pages? Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 07:16:30 -0800 From: David S. Crampton david_cramp...@ie2b.com Reply-To: us...@global.libreoffice.org Organization: That Is 2 Be Engineering Services To: Users discussions at global.libreoffice.org us...@global.libreoffice.org At page: http://help.libreoffice.org/Calc/Array_Functions there are errors in the display of the sample arrays. The text of the example is correct but the error in the example array makes the explanation less effective... putting it kindly. The top row of each array should have its content shifted right by one cell. The top-leftmost cell in the example should be empty. The top row and left column are intending to display, respectively, the column numbers and row numbers. The errors are the same for all the example arrays and also in at least several of the languages. The login to 'help.libreoffice.org' is apparently different than 'www.libreoffice.og'. I don't want to create so many different credentials. How, then, to report this error? If not sufficiently done here. -- David S. Crampton -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Forward to wrong DICTIONARIES URL
On 10/31/2011 04:24 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Andrea Pescetti schrieb: The right issue link is: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42408 Argh, of course! Thank you Rainer I mentioned this many months ago. It seems to point to the OOo site that is always down. In the end, it needs to point to a complete list of ALL of the dictionaries, like I have at http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html I may be editing this page to remove the top quick links sometime soon, as I get time to do it properly. But, there are over 180 dictionaries [not including the updates] on this list. Over 20 of them are localized Spanish ones. SO, we need to have LO point to some place that has a list that is more complete than the extension list/repository that is on the default LO site. That is my opinion. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] My .oxt dictionary not downloading from the extension center
I have a problem. I just got a message from a user saying he could not download the .oxt dictionary from the extension center. Here is the link: http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/us-english-april-2011-word-list Could someone please figure out why this is so? I am working on a different version of it, but will include spelling, hyphen, and thesaurus sections. Also, I will have different version types depending on the size of the word list used; 50K, 98K, 217K, 390K, and 638K word lists. I am testing the 217K version right now and I want to start uploading them for user testing in a little while. So, please let me know why my original .oxt file is not downloading for the user, so when I upload the next versions we will not have this issue. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] some of the LO site templates download as .bin files - and no extensions.
I was looking at some of the templates on the LO template site. Many of the one I looked at download with no extension. Ubuntu/Firefox stated that they were .bin files. The file manager shows then as OOo files of different types, like the .otx files. Also the Hebrew Dictionary does not have an extension as well. So is there some problems here? Do I have to add the proper template file extension to get them to install or open correctly? Look at the Blue half circle and the Green half circle Presentation templates. Also the LibreOffice Presentation template, plus others. Tell me what am I to do with these non-extension files. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: LibreOffice: Dubious download behavior LO on Windows/IE ?
I am running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Firefox 3.6.23. I clicked on the link
listed below for testing. It took less than 5 seconds to load up. I
had FF already running. I clicked on the link, FF briefly came to the
front and then the Thunderbird window came back to the front of FF. I
quickly click on the FF tab on the panel on the bottom of the screen
and I saw that the download dialog box was asking me what I wanted to
do; save or open it with the default archive manager.
Just did it again and the dialog still popped up within 2 or 3 seconds.
All I did was click on the link and then clicked on the FF tab on the
panel to bring it forward to the top of all the open windows on my
desktop.
So it looks line it could be IE8 and IE9 that is causing the problems,
or maybe with the addition of Vista 32 bit. I noticed that IE7 and then
IE8 sometimes took a long 10 to 30 count before the dialog comes up to
ask me if I wanted to download/save it or to download/open it. I once
saw it take several minutes to come up with the download dialog.
I wonder if there is something with the web page server that has some
strange slow way to do the hand shaking with the browser's protocols
for viewing non-HTML file and deciding what to do with that file/mime
type. Does it try to open it for display [think .txt file], display it
like an image file and decide if it needs to be displayed in a reduced
size, play it like a audio or video file, or when all the options are
looked at and none are the proper response to the file/mime type, it
then has no other option but to ask if you want to download and save it
to your local file system, or run it in the application that your
browser and OS determines the proper/default package to run the
file/mime type with.
I wonder it the web page server for the Supportex mirror is having
trouble talking to IE about what is to be done with the mime type of
.exe. It has to be, in my opinion, that there are issues with that
web page server and its communication with IE. Firefox does not have
that problem, or at least FF 3.6.23 running on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
To test the link with IE, I would have to put an XP [32-bit] computer
back together [working on fixing/upgrading it] or wait for my Vista
[32-bit] laptop to be returned from a quick loan. I do not like Windows
anymore, so I use Linux on as many computers as I can, but need to keep
a Windows computer for Windows-only USB devices and needed software that
only has Windows version [like special software that sets up and prints
CD/DVD media.
But, at least you know that a different browser and OS combination did
not have that problem.
.
On 10/29/2011 07:42 PM, Spiff wrote:
Hi everyone,
Last August, Cor Nouws was so kind as to post my contribution in regard to
'dubious download behavior' with downloading LibreOffice from the
LibreOffice download page.
See Cor's August 14 post LibreOffice: Dubious download behavior LO on
Windows/IE ?
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-Dubious-download-behavior-LO-on-Windows-IE-td3252634.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/website@global.libreoffice.org/msg05831.html
Recently, things are getting much clearer.
For the Netherlands, there are two LibreOffice download mirrors, the
ftp.nluug.nl mirror and the mirrors.supportex.net mirror.
The NLUUG mirror works just excellent (as do all other European and World
mirrors that I tried), but not(!) the Supportex mirror.
When http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ redirects the Dutch user not to
the NLUUG mirror but to the Supportex mirror, or when the Supportex mirror
is chosen from the mirrorlist page (via Get details (md5sum,...)), a very
peculiar download behavior occurs. It then takes a long(!) time till finally
the Internet Explorer download manager popup window ('Run/Save/Cancel')
appears, offering the download.
First I thought the download wasn't offered at all (while nevertheless there
was all kind of network, anti-virus, HDD and CPU action), but recently I
found out that when you wait a long(!) time the download is finally offered
with the IE download manager to pop up.
The LibreOffice download from the Supportex mirror is the only(!) download I
ever encountered that shows that strange kind of download behavior.
You can try it for yourself, using this download link:
http://mirrors.supportex.net/tdf/libreoffice/stable/3.4.3/win/x86/LibO_3.4.3_Win_x86_install_multi.exe
I use Windows Vista Ultimate SP2 32 bit (Dutch) with Internet Explorer
(first IE8, now IE9) (Dutch).
I don't know whether browser and OS are of relevance in this issue.
Can you reproduce any abnormal download behavior with the
mirrors.supportex.net download, taking it a long time for the IE download
manager popup window to appear?
What can be the case with the Supportex mirror?
Can the LibreOffice admins contact Supportex in this matter?
Thanks very much
and best regards,
Spiff
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Lost content in wiki
For just that type of thing, I do my work offline as much as possible, then upload it. Then I save the page's html file offline. I hate it when someone can just wipe out my work. I had a cute college student wipe my half semester length project off the mainframe, just to prove it to his friends. The professor was not amused and I had to type it all back in within 1 week to get it excepted. I was in a sling at the time and my professor would not take that for an excuse, but the guy who did it failed out right then and there since the professor would no longer take his work after he wipe out mine. So, on that day, I learned a valuable lesson. If you can back up your work. Back then hard drives were 3 and 4 pizza size platters holding about as much a 10 to 20 meg, and there was not backup space for students, or use of the tape system if you could buy your own reel. No floppies then. Now, I do my best to back up all my work, just in case some jerk decided he was like the college guy and wipe my work off the system. Now that I have two 1-TB drives and one 2-TB drive mostly filled, I have to somehow get the money to buy enough external drive space for 2 complete backups. So, I learned my lesson, and the jerk learned his. I wish modern day jerks would learn it to. On 10/18/2011 12:49 PM, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: Hello, This morning I worked for about on hour on the page http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/FI/Median%C3%A4kyvyys Unfortunately it got removed (I don't know by who) and recreated by other persons today. Is there some way to recover the original version? At least get the data back to me personally? I'm somewhat pissed my work got lost and I wonder why there is no revision data anywhere. I helped the Finnish team with a press release on yesterday and today and the page had some real content that is now lost. Thanks for you help! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Dictionaries repository
Actually, I would like to see all the dictionaries I have in my list [ the second one, the large one] for the LO dictionary list. There are over 180 of them, if I remember correctly, and all of the ones I could find. Then have the more dictionary option in LO point to the LO dictionary Wiki page or a dictionary extension page instead of where it is currently point to. Actually the links at libreplanet for the files links to OOo's flaky extension site. It would be nice to have a LO page with these dictionaries listed/archived some place other than my site. Right now, it would be a real pain to try to add all of them to the extension site that is being created for LO. If someone would want to make a Wiki page for them, I could sent then the 220 MB +/- dictionary folder in a zipped file [not know how large the .zip file would be], and the dictionary page html file. With these files, a person should be able to do some cut/pasting and get a working wiki based page uploaded easy enough. I think this would be better for a TDF member to do, instead of myself, unless they would give me permission to create the page on the main LO Wiki site. Here is the link to my default dictionary list. Once you get past the short top list, you will get to the very large list sorted by language. There are over 20 localized Spanish dictionaries listed there. http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html On 10/10/2011 06:02 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Hi, the current situation for dictionary download is very unsatisfying. Menu 'Tools- Language - More dictionaries) leads to http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/ with dubious links and most contents no dictionaries. To find http://dvd.de.libreofficebox.org/extensions/ is really potluck, some others can be found on http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org/extension-center?getCategories=DictionarygetCompatibility=anysort_on=positive_ratingspath=%2FLibreOffice-Extensions-and-Templates%2Fextension-centerportal_type=PSCProjectSearchableText= and who knows where else dictionaries might be. What a mess. We need a similar solution as discussed in thread Bugzilla Bug Report Assistant (I started 2011-09-15). The link from LibO menu should reach a language tools page with an enduring URL existing for a long time. This page should lead to repositories where dictionaries and other language tools can be found. Contents (IMHO, first idea): 1. Official ones what are also delivered with current LibO versions (for updates in old LibO versions. 2. From our own repository 3. A Wiki page with links to other sources and experiential reports What do you think? Rainer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Dictionaries repository
On 10/10/2011 06:16 PM, drew wrote: krackedpress wrote: http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html You can remove the French dictionaries and Grammalecte from your list (except for the Correcteur terminologique français). I’m the author of these extensions and there has been no need to handle them for me. Thank you anyway. OH - so these are not free for people to distribute then? I mean that is your right to say of course, just being sure that is what you mean. Thanks drew Actually there are at least 9 or 10 people on the list of contributers to the French .oxt files with the following licenses listed as well. Licences : * MPL : Mozilla Public License version 1.1 ou supérieure -- http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/MPL-1.1.html * GPL : GNU General Public License version 2.0 ou supérieure -- http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html * LGPL : GNU Lesser General Public License version 2.1 ou supérieure -- http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-2.1.html NOW if you are one of the people listed, do all of them want the files removed from the NA-DVD and all of the projects being created around the world? Also, if we cannot distributed these files, then you better have a URL for those who want it from you and a mailing address for people to order [freely] a CD with the files from you for those who do not have the net, such as businesses, governments offices [local to me], the schools, etc., etc., etc.. Then you will also need to also ask all the Linux distros around the world to no longer distribute the French language files as well. I take no ownership of the files, I just distribute the DVDs for free. I buy the media. I print the DVD on my DVD printing inkjet. I burn the DVDs. I buy the DVD style cases. I print the inserts. Then I give these away to businesses, local government offices, school students and their parents, and anyone else that would want to try LibreOffice. I used my limited, fixed, income to buy the supplies and give them away. I have made almost 100 of these so far. No money given to me for this service. I also paid the shipping cost to send a copy of 3.3.x and 3.4.x DVDs to a guy in the European Union, since he wanted to base the DVD for his region on the English version of the NA-DVD. That was not cheap. But I have done all of this for free. Do you want to take over my job and send everyone I have given a DVD to one you make with your French .oxt files that are MPL, GPL, and LGPL? Do you want me to supply you a list? I am in New York State. How much will 100 CDs cost to burn, print labels on them, and mail them all to the 3 counties I have given out DVDs to? Should I send them your email address for they can order a copy from you? Maybe I should just look into making my own French .oxt files from files that have General Public Licenses and promote them as Kracked French dictionary files for LibreOffice and any other package that use .oxt dictionary files. I can do that according to what I know about the licenses used. I created an English one with the most up-to-date word lists I could come up with, and I fixed a problem with a Bulgarian dictionary .oxt file. I have not issue with making a French one if needed to serve the users I distribute my DVDs to. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage
Right now, I am looking into a company that is doing Polo shirts, with embroidered logos, for under $5 each. I will be buying some for testing how good they are, but with a different organization's logo on it. These will be for hand-outs using an internal raffle, so the low price is good. Hopefully the quality is good. So, if someone like me would order a number of polo shirts, and other items with the LO logo on them, then sells some, WHO is the USA person who does the marketing for this region. Who is in charge or tries to coordinate the shows that are in this region of the world? If someone earns money for the USA region with the idea of some of it going to USA/Canada marketing, who would be the person that would get the money to distribute it towards the marketing costs for the shows and events of this region? Now that there is a donation site being worked on for LO [International], I am wondering about regional marketing monies donations, when they come. On 10/03/2011 02:51 AM, Leif Lodahl wrote: 2011/10/3 Florian Effenbergerflo...@documentfoundation.org Hi, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2011-09-27 15:27: ...10 or more people wearing logo shirts with some great phrase about why you should switch to LO? People see it and might wonder what it is and then look it up at home, or come over to talk to one of the people wearing the shirts. .. having merchandise for the team members and for externals to buy is definitely on the agenda. We have already been looking into shop options, and having local NGOs producing and selling merchandise materials is also on our agenda. :) FYI I have been experimenting a little with http://libreoffice.spreadshirt.dk . The site is not public yet, but so far all revinue goes to the Danish community. Just takes some time, but definitely is an important part of marketing. Florian Cheers, Leif -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] I need help for the wording to describe the two lines
I need help with the wording for describing the differences between the to LO lines 3.3.x and 3.4.x. http://libreoffice-na.us/multi-version/install.html I am working on an archive-style of multi-version install pages for LO. This will have my online version of the archived LO installs that are used in the NA-DVDs, so there is a limited number of language and helps packs listed. I would like help with the detail descriptions. I know that 3.3.x is the most stable and 3.4.x is the cutting edge, but soon 3.4.x will be able to be used for business and enterprise use. In 4 months the 3.5.x line is due to come out and the last of the 3.3.x line is due out at the end of next month. I want the proper text stating that 3.3.5 will be supported for another year? Plus the fact that 3.4.x will be taking over the most stable role when 3.5.x line comes out. I really am not that great with my explanation after my last stroke, so I could use some help here. I would like to list the LO official archive site, if there is one. This archive-type of site/pages is something I would like to keep going. I do know that there has been some requests for previous version on the lists, and till now, I had the previous versions in the same folders as the current versions. Now I want to have the previous version listed on this site/pages. Right now, there are links to the current version only. Maybe next week, I will have the previous version linked as well. So, any help or text suggestions would be appreciated. http://libreoffice-na.us/multi-version/install.html -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Nabble - is it worth it?
On 09/26/2011 11:02 AM, Ken Springer wrote: On 9/25/11 8:33 PM, drew wrote: Finally - I suppose the other option is to stop using Nabble..and if anyone thinks that is the right course of action, now is a good time to bring it up? I don't use it, but I don't want it to go away. LO is the only place on the web that has it's help system set up the way I would design on. A discussion on this would be off topic, I think, so I'll go no further. :-) Some people would prefer using a web based system for lists than an email based system. Some people do not want to have emails sent to them for error topics and how to topics that they have no interest in. I think we had a few people leave the list because of the volume of emails. So we need to have some system that people can read, and maybe reply to, threads that have subjects that have interest to their needs. If not Nabble, some other type of web/browser-based service. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] added the two dictionaries I worked on
In the Extension page, under Dictionaries - any version, I added the two dictionaries that I worked on. I modified a US English dictionary to reflect the more up-to-date .dic word list that I could find which was over a year newer than any other one that was used in the other .oxt dictionaries. I also uploaded the Bulgarian dictionary that I edited, and was told that stopped the crashing issue when dealing with the PDF exporting by a Bulgarian language user. The OOo one was the problem, so I did some editing to make it a more standardized format compared to the other ones I have seen the internals of. Now, is is possible for the few other dictionaries, that have been uploaded already by others, to be listed in the Dictionary group? I.E. to be listed in more than one group? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] donation confirmation on website
How about making an English version for us? It might help, since there are a lot of us that do not speak German. On 09/16/2011 07:11 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, we had to create a new donation confirmation due to changed legal tax requirements. In case someone has linked this outside of the challenge page, please change the link to http://www.frodev.org/downloads/oeffentlich/spendenbescheinigung-mitgliedsbeitraege-2010-als-pdf Thanks, Florian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Extension website - broader publicity wanted
On 09/16/2011 11:14 AM, Andreas Mantke wrote: Hi, Am Freitag, 16. September 2011, 01:59:34 schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press Productions: OK Now my reply is on the Website list. Can we add a Dictionary category on the Extension site? There are over 180 dictionaries and 10+ language tools/aids. So maybe the dictionaries should have their own category. I heard no dissenting vote. Thus I added the category. Please have a look, if the text is usefull from a native English speaker ;-) Regards, Andreas Thanks. Now who is the one that will be authorized to upload the dictionaries that I have listed on the http://libreoffice-na.us/English/dictionary.html; page? All 180+ of them? I just some how fixed the Bulgarian dictionary for one user, and I did some editing of an English one to reflect the most recent dictionary work list. But, that is only 2 of over 180+ dictionaries including over 20 localized Spanish dictionaries. I do not know if I would be the one to upload them or would someone from TDF or LO need to do that? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Extension website - broader publicity wanted
On 09/16/2011 02:27 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: Hi, Am Freitag, 16. September 2011, 18:19:50 schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press Productions: (...) Now who is the one that will be authorized to upload the dictionaries that I have listed on the http://libreoffice-na.us/English/dictionary.html; page? All 180+ of them? I just some how fixed the Bulgarian dictionary for one user, and I did some editing of an English one to reflect the most recent dictionary work list. But, that is only 2 of over 180+ dictionaries including over 20 localized Spanish dictionaries. I do not know if I would be the one to upload them or would someone from TDF or LO need to do that? we need for the dictionaries in total or (better) for every language a responsible member who create a project and upload and maintain the release(s). I think that should one of the language team (or the l10n-team). Regards, Andreas The problem is most of the dictionaries are now old and not likely updated. I would not mind keeping an eye out for spelling list updates from place where most of them seem to coming from. I have seen some of the non-English language .dic files that are more up-to-date than what are in the current dictionary .oxt files. I updated an English one with a word list that was more up-to-date than anything else out there. I just fixed, in some way, the Bulgarian one. [maybe the process I use fixed part of the errors]. Any option if the dictionary has not been worked on for 4 or 5 years? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Extension website - broader publicity wanted
OK Now my reply is on the Website list. Can we add a Dictionary category on the Extension site? There are over 180 dictionaries and 10+ language tools/aids. So maybe the dictionaries should have their own category. On 09/15/2011 03:04 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: Hi, Am Donnerstag, 15. September 2011, 17:45:06 schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press Productions: Well since OOo's Extension site is offline, last time I checked, someone could take them from the LibreOffice-NA.US domain and upload them to LO's Extension site. Still, there should be a category called Dictionaries. That would make it easier for people to find them. Language Tools or Aids type of category might not work for some, plus not all of the currently uploaded dictionaries are found with that category. The Here are the Dictionaries type of category, like OOo has in their opening extension page, would make it much easier for people to find them. There are over 180 of them, so they should have their own category. Language Tool, Writer's Tools Writer Extras, Linguist, Pagination, and the other non-dictionary tools for helping you with writing your documents should be in a category apart from dictionaries, since there are so many dictionaries and so few of the writing aids that are not dictionaries. There may be 10 or a few more of these writing tools vs 180+ dictionaries. The 10 would get lost withing the 180. it's not that difficult to add categories. I think we should discuss the categories, you want to add, on the website list and write those, we agreed on, onto the wiki page http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Exitensions-website I'll do then my best to get them on the site ;-) Regards, Andreas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Extension site - 5 dictionaries listed -- instead of the 180+ available
I see that the Language Tools for all program modules LibreOffice 3.4 has a Russian dictionary and the 4 French [version 4.2] dictionaries. My question is, why only these 5 files? Why not all the other dictionary .oxt files? My dictionary list at http://libreoffice-na.us/English/dictionary.html; has over 180 [?] dictionaries listed [without any updates included]. There are about 20+ localized Spanish dictionaries there as well. So is there any reason for not including more of these files here? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] better?? format of documentation page for a NA-DVD
I was working on changing the format of a documentation page to be a little more like what can be seen on the LO site or the TDF-Wiki site. It shows chapter numbers/letters and the titles are what are on the wiki page. I think it looks better than what it was originally. Would like come comments. If this is OK, I can do some editing so it would be proper [links/etc.] for the CMS system. I have a copy of the documentation.htm file and could make sure that the file links are edited to the asset links. http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] better?? format of documentation page for a NA-DVD
On 08/30/2011 04:30 PM, drew wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 13:19 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I was working on changing the format of a documentation page to be a little more like what can be seen on the LO site or the TDF-Wiki site. It shows chapter numbers/letters and the titles are what are on the wiki page. I think it looks better than what it was originally. Would like come comments. If this is OK, I can do some editing so it would be proper [links/etc.] for the CMS system. I have a copy of the documentation.htm file and could make sure that the file links are edited to the asset links. http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html Looks good - the only comment, change I would make, would be the final pdf files for installation instructions. Those are not needed, I added all that as html files into the disc image: http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/en/installation/installation-of-libreoffice-3-3-on-windows/ http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/en/installation/installation-of-libreoffice-3-3-on-linux/ http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/en/installation/instructionsmac/ http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/en/install-portable/ [I would like to move that last page, just so it matches up path wise with the others] each page is referenced from the proper spot on install page. //drew It still is a work in progress. Before, the names were based on the file names, not the chapter title names. That was changed this time., plus a few other odds-n-ends. The final look and feel is still up for grabs. I just decided it was time to do some formatting/visual work on it. Maybe after the first CMS ISO test, we can do some work like this on many of the pages, to make them look better with the CMS style themes. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO
I will work on making the 7z files [if my archive software will do that]. I will email to you privately with the links when I have them online. My upload speed is very slow, but download is usually very fast. On 08/27/2011 11:36 PM, Warren Camilleri wrote: if the large file is spliced then with 7z i am able to extract them as one into 1 folder, also my data connection is Grade A- from speedtest.net at a speed of 5Mb/s down and 1.5Mb/s upload so it wont take me long to download the dvd/files. also i would rather use the north American since its an english version as to convert germen will be a huge hassle and that most Maltese are unable to understand germen even thought Italian is known by 45% of the population as-well. as for postage your USPS should be able to assists you since they deliver alot of mail to our nation. also i would not be surprised if it gets delivered by the USAF since the neighboring country is libya... i suggest that you still send one dvd (maltapost says that anything under a 100grams would be €1 international post, so guess it might cost you 2/3 dollors?) just mail me privately for my residential mail, and i could download the files as mentioned a spliced version of the DVD. What do you think? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO
On 08/28/2011 03:36 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: As I work with warren i don't think Linux and Mac should be removed. I too am a mac user and would be valuable to those who use mac as well. I don't think we should exclude any platform at all except for now the mobile platforms like iOS and android. He can add those OSs later. He is planning on having links for those for downloading. But to save time, he will start with Windows. The difference between Windows-only @ 1.9 GB and Windows/Linux/Mac @ 3.2 GB, may be an issue to him at this time, or not. I will offer him the HTML pages for those installs, and he can download the non-Windows installs, and use them when he needs to. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO
On 08/26/2011 09:19 PM, David Nelson wrote: Hi, On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Warrenwar...@ossmalta.com wrote: May i ask if i may be able t download and distribute if not translate the project in maltese for the locals here as most net connections have a download limit, and distributing the discs for free like in our capital is a huge marketing advantage. thanks Warren camilleri (ossmalta) Legally you have every right to do so. The best thing would be to sign up to the marketing list and make contact with the guys who distribute the North American DVD. They can advise you about all you'd need to know: what to include, how to stay in compliance with TDF copyright guidelines, etc. Well he is talking to one - ME. I am the one who hosts LibreOffice-NA.US, and the one who took the original German language beta distribution DVD and made it work for the North American Community. With the help of others, we developed the idea and work to be more than what it originally was. He is working with TDF people since it looks like he is creating mt.libreoffice.org, or one of the sub-domains. I do not know if he wants to have an online version of the work, as done with the CMS system, but it is better, in my opinion, to work out the what you want offline and then do the editing to have an online version. I think he wants an English language version, with it also translated into his regions native language. He also seems to want to have it Windows-only, with a link to where his users can get Linux and Mac installs. I take my hat off for anyone who wants to create a native language distribution, with a different language add with it. The one thing he did say, I think, was that he would love for it to be plug-n-play. He wanted you to place the DVD in the drive and it would ask you if you wanted to install the package or browse the disc. This type of auto-play has now been disabled on the Windows OS, so that part is not to be done easy. He is not a programmer, so he would have difficulties to make it plug-n-play to begin with. Still, he really wants the people in his region to have a distribution disc in their native language. For that, he is going to do a very good thing. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO
On 08/27/2011 11:22 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: On 27/08/2011 15:04, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: You have your terminology incorrect here, the term is auto play, which all operating systems do from Linux to windows to mac. i have played dvd's of games and auto play seems to work none the less. What windows OS are you talking about. I am on windows 7 ultimate 64bit As for my word use, having survived 3 strokes tend to mess thing up sometimes on what are the correct words and phrases are the correct ones to use. That is way I do not like to write documentation or even take notes at meetings. So please forgive me improper word usage or terminology. If it passes my spell checker in Thunderbird, I may not catch the error. --- There is a MS security patch that prevents certain auto play options from happening. This was created to stop those nasties from auto-installing when you insert a CD or DVD into a drive, or the same with Thumb-drives or camera cards. I do not know all the ins-and-outs of what the patch does, but it was meant to stop users from having their computer infected by so nasty program. I know that it work on XP and Vista systems though. Most of my driver and software install CDs no longer automatically run after I place them into the drive. Music and Video discs are exempt from this security option, but I did not hear anything about game discs. I think I remember Drew was one thinking about having a distribution disc auto-play, or some term describing the following: Place the disc in the drive, computer reads the disc auto-play file[s], package determines what OS you have installed, then it asks you if you want to install the proper package for your system's OS. Windows install shown for Windows systems, Mac Intel or PPC if it was one of those, DEB or RPM for the Linux systems. At least that was my opinion on what he was thinking a few months back. That would be nice for some people with limited computer skills, but could be a dangerous security issue for others. Personally, I would prefer not having a software package auto play when I place the disc into my drive. I may want to browse the disk instead of installing the default software. For the distribution CD/DVD I like the option to either open the HTML files in my default browser, OR just browse the disc to see what all it on it. For those who need help and guidance, having the install information and what is one the disk, spelled out by using easy to use browser-based pages is useful. Also for those who know what is on the disc and just needs to read some documentation file or install a dictionary or other add-on, having the choice it important. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO
Warren: As for ISO Downloads, Here is the German language DVD links. http://de.libreofficebox.org/download http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/box/3.3.3/LibO-3.3.3-1_DVD_allplatforms_de.iso I do not have one for the English language version, since the North American version on the LibreOfficeBox.org system has not been generated yet. Also, do to size limitation on my hosting account, I am not allowed to have CD or DVD size files stored there. I wonder how much it would cost, and how quick it would be, to ship/mail/etc. a DVD in its protective case [not paper sleeve] to your location from Elmira, NY, USA? I would love to have you get a copy of our work we did to create a North American Community DVD. If I created a bunch of ZIP files that held all of the up-to-date install and other files on the LibreOffice-NA.US site for 3.3.4, would you want to download them and put them together into the proper folder tree? It would take some time to upload them to my hosting account, due to the slow upload speed of my cable-modem broadband account, but if you are willing to download them, I am willing to upload them so you can get them. It would not take long to remove the Linux and Mac files from http://libreoffice-na.us/English/index.html [now 3.3.4 installs] to make it Windows-only. I planned on doing that, but had other things needed to be done first offline. This version of the site/DVD has the CMS style of navigation and theme, while http://libreoffice-na.us/English-Windows/index.html [which is 3.3.3 installs] uses the original style/theme the German language version used many months ago. Please let me know what you want to do. --- Maybe Drew can get the CMS people to generate the DVD ISO for testing now so you could have the option to download that version. There are some folder/file structure differences between what is on http://libreoffice-na.us/English/index.html and http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/en/ but LibreOffice-NA.US has been up for longer and has had more time in the editing and reviewing for errors. Once the new site is finished, the old one may be used to test different ideas for different version of the NA DVD. On 08/27/2011 03:35 PM, Warren Camilleri wrote: What i wanted to do in simple terms: flash auto-play works as i use it at work (and i have an ACA in flash) - the autoplay will have these links - Install Libreoffice, System Requirements, Documentation in english for now till i finish translating the disc and its current contents in Maltese. now since Libreoffice needs java on that pc it will be with Step 1: Install Java, Step 2: install Libreoffice Step 3: install LO Help files, additional steps(links): step 4: download extensions, Step 5; download templates and social networking links facebook/twitter all this for a windows PC, i can burn dvds as well as disks i'll start of with the DVD as is but add an auto-play (and program it according to its contents) once i get to look into the files that is, also if you may send me link to download the ISO if possible i am also open to assistance and constructive criticism. as for the Linux part, Jonathan when your not so busy that area is where i will be needing you. the reason why i will be shipping it as is, as MS has just signed a contract with the government on windows and other apps, as for office it is not clear yet, so i wanted to get a foot into that race... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO
On 08/27/2011 05:36 PM, drew wrote: Sorry for being such a slug/lurker lately - just one comment - you could do that also, or anyone else that wants to join in..still I'm the one missing commitments, I won't try to hide. I did download the files the other night, but haven't uploaded them - off they go as I type this [that's done] and then I'll hang out and clear this todo list - as soon as that's done, I'll ask for that iso image today. //drew Thanks Every time I try to access the CMS system, my browser tries to crash in the middle of doing something within the system. Or at least it grays out for several minutes every time, with once taking over 5 minutes to come back. I do not want to mess something up with all this not-working graying-out problems/issues. Actually, right now, my connection with the LibreOfficeBox server is really slowing down. I am downloading the German DVD and it has taken almost 7 hours to download less than 50% of it, when it should have taken less than an hour to download it completely. This does not bode well for my connection with/to the CMS server/system. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Draw and Impress has full books now - plus chapter updates
Drew, are you going to update the Documentation page? As I stated before, for some reason the CMS system and I do not get along with web-based editing. Firefox keeps graying out on me when I try to edit any page there. Draw and Impress now has full books plus there are updated chapters for some of currently listed files. Andrew D. Pitonyak gave his permission to include his Macro Explained document/book on the DVD and the web site. I was told he has the best documentation for this subject matter, so it may be nice to add it. I know some people take an issue with referring to OOo documentation, but if they have not created/finished a version for LibreOffice, OOo documents is all we have for now. I think Andrew stated that he will make a LO version in the future, but I do not think we should wait till then to include Macro Explained file - all 495 pages worth - with the distribution DVD. The LO Getting Started with Macros is only 24 pages, so a 490+ page document would be better to use, in my opinion. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO
With working on the old P-III system, I decided to make a simple stripped down CD distribution/install disc for LibreOffice. It is not browser based like the original NA-DVD, but these old CD only systems would be quicker to not to use a web browser to deal with the install files. This way, those who do not have a DVD drive and do not have broadband access, will be able to install LibreOffice. I have included 3.3.x and 3.4.x Windows installs, the JRE, the documentation folder, and some basic dictionaries. I added a PDF printout of the LO web site Windows installation info and a Read-Me-First document that tell the person to install the JRE first [since you get an install error freezing the install till JRE is installed]. Right now it is 697 MB. K3B states that I have 5.5MB free space on a CD, so the CD is as full as it gets. I could have more space if I choose either 3.3.x or 3.4.x versions, but I wanted the users to have that option. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Draw and Impress has full books now - plus chapter updates
On 08/25/2011 05:09 PM, drew wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 15:55 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: Drew, are you going to update the Documentation page? As I stated before, for some reason the CMS system and I do not get along with web-based editing. Firefox keeps graying out on me when I try to edit any page there. You mean the different look and feel you mentioned before - something akin to the current wiki page. I didn't plan on that for now, is it important to you - for right now? No, not a format change at this point, just the fact that there are some additions to the page. I would like to know why I get all those gray-outs though. That is one reason that I am not helping with the edits. Draw and Impress now has full books plus there are updated chapters for some of currently listed files. Great - didn't see them last time I looked - will move them today then. Just happened yesterday or the day before. I found out, first, when I decided to check the wiki last time. I do this every so often now. Then, later, Tom Davis let me know that there were book available for Impress and Draw. Andrew D. Pitonyak gave his permission to include his Macro Explained document/book on the DVD and the web site. I was told he has the best documentation for this subject matter, so it may be nice to add it. I know some people take an issue with referring to OOo documentation, it was only me that brought up, IIRC, and don't feel particularly strong about it. but if they have not created/finished a version for LibreOffice, OOo documents is all we have for now. I think Andrew stated that he will make a LO version in the future, but I do not think we should wait till then to include Macro Explained file - all 495 pages worth - with the distribution DVD. The LO Getting Started with Macros is only 24 pages, so a 490+ page document would be better to use, in my opinion. I can move the file when I do the two, single file, user guides. If I do that tonight and another 4 edits pending, all quick text fixes -I've looked over some of he reports the CMS offers, so will run broken links check type stuff aftewrwads and then.. so, I think we need to ask about having the ISO generation script run after that. Erich, Christian and others likely will read this email later today - I'll put an email to the projects list as soon as that is done, OK? Need to know where the file would end up and we can grab and see what is what. Thanks, //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO
I have no issues for you to create a distribution disc for your local language based on the NA-DVD. I used the original themed German language DVD as the starting place for the English language North American DVD. You can start with http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/index.html which has the older theme, but it is easier to modify than the newest theme that http://libreoffice-na.us/English/index.html is now using. If you want to have some of the really old version of the files in Zip files, you can got to this page and download all the theme files and see the folder structure. This page is for 3.3.1 installs from March 11th. http://libreoffice-na.us/dvd-archives/dvd-folder-archives.html These pages will help you get started, if you do not want to create an online version with the CMS server system. I would recommend to design your DVD offline first, then if you want to add an online version for your language, then the CMS site might be an option for you. On 08/25/2011 06:48 PM, Warren wrote: May i ask if i may be able t download and distribute if not translate the project in maltese for the locals here as most net connections have a download limit, and distributing the discs for free like in our capital is a huge marketing advantage. thanks Warren camilleri (ossmalta) On 25/08/11 22:42, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: With working on the old P-III system, I decided to make a simple stripped down CD distribution/install disc for LibreOffice. It is not browser based like the original NA-DVD, but these old CD only systems would be quicker to not to use a web browser to deal with the install files. This way, those who do not have a DVD drive and do not have broadband access, will be able to install LibreOffice. I have included 3.3.x and 3.4.x Windows installs, the JRE, the documentation folder, and some basic dictionaries. I added a PDF printout of the LO web site Windows installation info and a Read-Me-First document that tell the person to install the JRE first [since you get an install error freezing the install till JRE is installed]. Right now it is 697 MB. K3B states that I have 5.5MB free space on a CD, so the CD is as full as it gets. I could have more space if I choose either 3.3.x or 3.4.x versions, but I wanted the users to have that option. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] working on a CD distribution disc for LO
Well, if you want to use the work I did on the LibreOffice-NA.US site, go ahead, but you might want to reference that. I have the DVDs that I distribute based on what is on that my NA-DVD site. Drew will be making an ISO from the CMS site in the near future. We planed on having an English/French/Spanish language DVD with the HTML pages in these three language. All you had to choose which language from the opening browser page. I use Kompozer Web Page Editor for creation and editing of the HTML pages on that site. As for auto starting, i.e. auto running when you place the disc in the computer, Microsoft has disabled that feature. As for Windows-only vs. Windows/Linux/Mac, I like the choice, but if you use Windows-only, then you want to have the Windows only version. http://libreoffice-na.us/English-Windows/index.html I have both version online with 3.3.x and 3.4.x lines of LibreOffice, with only the 3.3.x Win/Linux/Mac version having the newest theme style that the CMS server version is using. The difference between the Win-only and the Win/Linux/Mac version is the Install page and the extra packages in the extra's page. All other pages are the same. If you need to have several languages on the DVD, all you need to do copy the HTML files into a different folder system and translate the wording. Then update the links to point to the original folders for the installs and such. That is where software like Kompozer work well. To be honest, the most simple install DVD/CD would be having all the files in their folders, and write a text file that tells the person where the different installs, documentation, extensions, templates, artwork, etc., are located. Save it as a PDF file [export to PDF] and maybe give them a printed copy of it along with the disc. That is what I did, before I got involved with the NA-DVD project. Now the DVD can be browsed with your default browser [IE or Firefox], of browser the DVD with your file-browser [My Computer]. Browsing by using Firefox [or IE] gives more information, but is not as quick if you know what is on the disc. On 08/25/2011 06:58 PM, Warren Camilleri wrote: thanks for the info, but is it possible for me to use it as it, meaning in English as most pc users here understand English. how ever i am working on mt.libreoffice.org to be in the native language (has alot of work to restructure the accents). what i had in mind was either the dvd you guys made as is and just packaged by me for distribution, or finding the software files able for offline install and make a flash auto-start with links to the exe files (as most are windows users) and links to the online download for Linux and mac which i think might even fit on a CD. also note that i am NOT a software programmer, so something's need to be as simple as possible (the same goes for me when i am translating) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] when will NA-CMS add the Calc and Impress Documentation
On 08/18/2011 11:02 PM, drew wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 10:02 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press snip Been real sick since late last week, Hoping you have continued to feel better.. Still a little fuzzy half the time, but I am starting to recover. Have a triple nerve block scheduled on Wed. of next week to help with the pain from the scar tissue growing next to my spine. The Docs are no longer allowed to remove it, according to the insurance companies. Bummed out about that, since 5 years ago they did just that. That pain/nerve/scar issues has prevented me from visiting my wife at her nursing 26 miles away, for the past 2 months. To painful to drive that far right now. Missed a major event where I was to dress up in an[my] old-time railroad engineer's outfit and take tickets for a mini train ride at an event that supports people with disabilities. Sat. is Strong-Kids/Safe-Kids, and I was scheduled to work that as well, in a game booth that is run by adults with disabilities. Wheelchair and the County Fair Ground will interesting this year, if I am fit enough to attend/work. but now going through the 100's of LO emails. A double edged sword - there is still plenty of activity on the mailing lists, and it predominantly reflects real work that is happening, it's impressive. Drew - the Math Guide is a 0700 now, not 0800 as shown on the CMS documentation page. The writers decided to make that change. The only break in the numbering is the 0600 Migration Guide, and that has not been updated for OOo since version 2.x. Actually, I would like to drop the numbering on the actual web page. Do you think that would look better? I think it would look nice to have it more along the look of what is now on the http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation page except maybe the dates, if the documents are automatically updated to the assets folder, otherwise we add the date the update was made. That will take a big rebuild of the page, but it may be worth it. Until my head clears completely, I really do not want to deal with that CMS system. If you want, I could do a work-up on the offline version, and you could cut/paste the body of the text that needs changing. Keeping the header info above the body tag and the footer info, but changing most of the body by cut/paste should work. The links for the files will point to the proper folder paths. With a little tweaking, it should be quicker that way. In the meantime have started a page on the wiki to gather final issues for this set of pages at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Americas_LibreOffice_DVD/PunchCard and just added this to the Math page. Just sent emails to the marketing (us) list with the link and asked others to help review the pages - likely edit between now and then but will plan on publishing pages again on Sunday for sure. As for OOo branding, there are a lot of documents that currently not remade to be Specific LO that are very useful. Andrew Pitonyak's Macro Explained documents are not written for LO [yet?]. Also, there is a really limited Base documentation out there, and none are written for LO. Yeah..I know. I would still prefer not too to be honest, but perhaps that is precisely one side of my predisposition that needs tempering... Well he did say we could use it on our DVD. Hopefully he will make the LO version in the next few months. If we get permission to list these documents, would we do a disservice to LO by listing those documents when there are none yet written specifically for LO? Contacting the authors of what we publish would be nice, can't argue there. A disclaimer that the original documents were mostly written when LO was not available and there are a dedicated group of writers that are writing those specific LO documentation, would be nice or maybe needed before these non-specific LO documents are posted/linked. I would think this is not really necessary at all and maybe a bit condescending, so I would not be in favor of such wording. //drew Well we could, with permission, add links to the web sites for the Writers Group and the major authors that write documents for LO or that would work with LO. Have a statement that about our thanks that they are writing/updating the LO documents and other useful documents for LO users. Giving thanks to those who are working on LO documentation always is nice. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] NA-DVD install page text - change?
Would text like this be good for the Install page for the NA-DVD This DVD contains LibreOffice version 3.3.4 The 3.3.4 version became available on August 17th 2011 The 3.3.5 version is scheduled to become available on October 19th 2011 Since 3.3.4 came out and 3.3.5 is the proposed last 3.3.x version, how soon do you think we should switch to the 3.4.x line? Could there be two lines off our main page? EN - 3.3.x and EN - 3.4.x? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] when will NA-CMS add the Calc and Impress Documentation
On 08/13/2011 10:34 AM, drew wrote: On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 12:32 +0200, Sigrid Carrera wrote: Hi Drew, On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:36:11 -0400 drewd...@baseanswers.com wrote: Howdy, Alright, alright - I'll be late to my own funeral.. Just published the updated documentation page http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/en/documentation/ Made a few changes to the text on the page. Added LibO branded and latest, Calc, Impress and Math files. @Tim, To be honest I would prefer not to distribute the OO.o branded Draw file and would like to see us have a quick talk about that on the marketing ML. I just saw a post from Jean on the documentation list, that she published the Draw chapters in the wiki. So you could just grab those chapters instead. ;) (Unless you're talking about a template) :) Thanks Sigrid Ok - the documentation is all Libo branding now and did a little more format work. Also - published changes to the Template page. I did not publish an update to the Install page for 3.4.2 (though I added a couple of new, unpublished pages under install) - Need to talk with the guys about the libreofficebox asset directory, what I expected to find under the libreoffice/stable/ directory wasn't (I'm still lost as to which of the many lists to use for this, wasn't projects for this and not website) //drew Been real sick since late last week, but now going through the 100's of LO emails. Drew - the Math Guide is a 0700 now, not 0800 as shown on the CMS documentation page. The writers decided to make that change. The only break in the numbering is the 0600 Migration Guide, and that has not been updated for OOo since version 2.x. As for OOo branding, there are a lot of documents that currently not remade to be Specific LO that are very useful. Andrew Pitonyak's Macro Explained documents are not written for LO [yet?]. Also, there is a really limited Base documentation out there, and none are written for LO. If we get permission to list these documents, would we do a disservice to LO by listing those documents when there are none yet written specifically for LO? A disclaimer that the original documents were mostly written when LO was not available and there are a dedicated group of writers that are writing those specific LO documentation, would be nice or maybe needed before these non-specific LO documents are posted/linked. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] when will NA-CMS add the Calc and Impress Documentation
Drew when are you going to add the Calc, Math, and Impress documentation to the NA-CMS site? Calc been out since late April and early May. Math since April 13th. Impress since late July. OR do you want me to do the work? Let me know. I can do the editing and such, but leave it unpublished till you go over it, if that is what you want. - The below [link] documentation page uses the CMS theme/style now and it shows the existing documentation from the writers for LibreOffice. I do not use the folder/file tree that the CMS site uses, just the theme appearance. I will, later, change the 3.4.x and the Windows-only pages to that theme as well. http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html Andrew Pitonyak has stated he would allow his Macro book [maybe he will allow the others he wrote] to go on the NA DVD. So that can be added as well. Maybe Mariano Casanova will allow his Base tutorial to be on it as well. I have not contacted him about that yet. IT will be nice to be able to include all of the documentation other major authors have created that will work with/for LibreOffice. I know the writer's group are working their hearts out getting the original OOo documents made for LibreOffice users. Yet there are others that have created some good documents/books that would work as well. Actually, as per a discussion earlier, we might want to add the Lulu.com links to the LibreOffice books for print there. Writer and Calc books currently are listed on the LO documentation page. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] when will NA-CMS add the Calc and Impress Documentation
Yes I know the feeling. Been dealing with 2 events; Buddy-Walk on the 13th and Strong-Kids-Safe-Kids on the 20th, plus rebuilding a computer for a secretary position, and a few more things that need to be done by such-and-such date this month. On 08/10/2011 10:27 AM, drew wrote: Hi Tim, Today if they are ready - bigger picture, we need to finish this and get it out - I've been off on other things, will work on the site tonight for sure and let's ask Christian for an ISO build so that we can really see what we have, OK. //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] when will NA-CMS add the Calc and Impress Documentation
Let me know when there is a link to the ISO. I will test it out as best as I am able. On 08/10/2011 10:27 AM, drew wrote: Hi Tim, Today if they are ready - bigger picture, we need to finish this and get it out - I've been off on other things, will work on the site tonight for sure and let's ask Christian for an ISO build so that we can really see what we have, OK. //drew On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 10:12 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: Drew when are you going to add the Calc, Math, and Impress documentation to the NA-CMS site? Calc been out since late April and early May. Math since April 13th. Impress since late July. OR do you want me to do the work? Let me know. I can do the editing and such, but leave it unpublished till you go over it, if that is what you want. - The below [link] documentation page uses the CMS theme/style now and it shows the existing documentation from the writers for LibreOffice. I do not use the folder/file tree that the CMS site uses, just the theme appearance. I will, later, change the 3.4.x and the Windows-only pages to that theme as well. http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html Andrew Pitonyak has stated he would allow his Macro book [maybe he will allow the others he wrote] to go on the NA DVD. So that can be added as well. Maybe Mariano Casanova will allow his Base tutorial to be on it as well. I have not contacted him about that yet. IT will be nice to be able to include all of the documentation other major authors have created that will work with/for LibreOffice. I know the writer's group are working their hearts out getting the original OOo documents made for LibreOffice users. Yet there are others that have created some good documents/books that would work as well. Actually, as per a discussion earlier, we might want to add the Lulu.com links to the LibreOffice books for print there. Writer and Calc books currently are listed on the LO documentation page. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] when will NA-CMS add the Calc and Impress Documentation
As I say, I will test it. I use the libreoffice-na.us versions for the distribution version - older theme so far. I make the DVDs I distribute from the version in my local web-page folder[s]. The document pages for Calc, Math, and Impress [1st edition], are online. You going to use 3.4.1 or 3.4.2 files? I have not updated to 3.4.2 yet, and may wait till 3.4.3 comes out at the end of the month. Also there are issues on the lists with 3.4.2 installs, but those same issues seems not not be in my install of 3.4.1. Also, are you keeping a local archive of the installs? I do not have all of the 3.3.0, but I think I have all the 3.3.1, 3.3.2, 3.3.3, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 3.4.2. I was thinking about having the older installs archived online [not ISOs] on the -NA.US site. Right now the archive is not Official but 3.3.1, 3.3.2, and 3.3.3 files are sharing the same folders online. When I have time, I will modify the install page to be an archive set of pages. On 08/10/2011 01:16 PM, drew wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 12:11 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: Let me know when there is a link to the ISO. I will test it out as best as I am able. It would NOT be ready for any type of distribution, I don't think, but just for us to look work with. Anyway - tonight I'll go over the pages, if those manuals have been updated will move/link them as needed, then will clone the install page that currently distributes 3.3 and change the clone to the current 3.4 release files (I'm assuming this will work as planned and take all of 5 minutes..we'll see), unpublish/publish the pair and tomorrow we can see about asking for a build process, after you have a chance to review what I did. //drew On 08/10/2011 10:27 AM, drew wrote: Hi Tim, Today if they are ready - bigger picture, we need to finish this and get it out - I've been off on other things, will work on the site tonight for sure and let's ask Christian for an ISO build so that we can really see what we have, OK. //drew On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 10:12 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: Drew when are you going to add the Calc, Math, and Impress documentation to the NA-CMS site? Calc been out since late April and early May. Math since April 13th. Impress since late July. OR do you want me to do the work? Let me know. I can do the editing and such, but leave it unpublished till you go over it, if that is what you want. - The below [link] documentation page uses the CMS theme/style now and it shows the existing documentation from the writers for LibreOffice. I do not use the folder/file tree that the CMS site uses, just the theme appearance. I will, later, change the 3.4.x and the Windows-only pages to that theme as well. http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html Andrew Pitonyak has stated he would allow his Macro book [maybe he will allow the others he wrote] to go on the NA DVD. So that can be added as well. Maybe Mariano Casanova will allow his Base tutorial to be on it as well. I have not contacted him about that yet. IT will be nice to be able to include all of the documentation other major authors have created that will work with/for LibreOffice. I know the writer's group are working their hearts out getting the original OOo documents made for LibreOffice users. Yet there are others that have created some good documents/books that would work as well. Actually, as per a discussion earlier, we might want to add the Lulu.com links to the LibreOffice books for print there. Writer and Calc books currently are listed on the LO documentation page. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] sending email to lists by unregistered
On 08/03/2011 03:48 AM, Sigrid Carrera wrote: Hi Milos, On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 08:39:01 +0200 Milos Srameksramek.mi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, what will happen if an unregistered person sends a message to a mailing list, say us...@xx.libreoffice.org? Will it get there, will it be discarded or, will somebody get it for approval? In the last case, who has the right for approval? this message will go to the (one or more) moderators of the list for approval. The moderators are all volunteers who took up the job when Florian asked who will do it. I'm sure, that Florian has a way to find out, who is the moderator for which list, but as you can imagine, this list might be huge. Does this answer your question? Sigrid I like the fact that there are moderators. They are not Big Brothers and control everything you see and read here, but they sure can keep problems with users down to a minimum. I do not like what happens when a list does not have moderators. It can make it unusable. So I thank all the volunteers who moderate these lists. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] offsite website backup
On 08/03/2011 02:13 PM, Warren Camilleri wrote: Hi Florian, if i am not mistaken doesn't TDF need to register for a European NPO entity form, in order to cover all of the EU (including malta) when i tried to do that to raise funds for my community i was shut down by the local law wanting at least 10 people as board members... and 20 for the eu, is the same in germany in order to register a NPO/NGO? Which also leave me to conclude about the territorial laws on both legalisation on NPO/NGO, Copyright as so on... its a long and tewisted process in each country and done so for money hungry government officials and layers... Then asking for funds from North America, and such as well, could cause paperwork nightmares that need to be worked on during the legal entity chartering. I had enough trouble with living in New York state and doing business in both New York and Pennsylvania. Multi country would cause me to go bald faster than I am now. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] offsite website backup
On 08/01/2011 05:06 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Hey guys first time posting to this list. I would like to contribute to this part of the community. Here is a bit about myself. I admin 4 linux servers, and am LPIC1 (linux) certified. Is there an offsite server based outside germany or anywhere else in the world that hosts a backup of the website in case main server needs to go down for maintenance it falls over to the backup server? Where are you located? Country? State? I do not know about LibreOffice/TDF, but once there are DVD projects offering ISOs for downloading it would be nice to have mirrors for these projects outside of Germany. Not to be down about having the servers in Europe, but I think there need to be mirrors of the site[s] in North America, South America, and every major region of the globe. Actually every International organization like LibreOffice/TDF needs to be regionally mirrored. This could indicate that these regions support the organization and its software to the point that they want to make sure their region has access to the main web site even if something happens to main site's service, or something like that. I once dealt with an internationally sold product company and they had their information mirrored in two location other than their headquarter's facility. I worked for a time in that main computer center. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] quick way to move from old theme to new CMS theme
I did some testing. I took the old files from the LibreOffice-NA.US site and placed them in the proper folders and used the CMS theme files. All I did was replace the heading and menu coding. Most of the parts of the pages worked fine. Some of the items in the old /pic/ folders could not be found since the new folder tree, but it looked very good for the most part of the rest of the page. If there are any pages left for conversion, maybe that idea could be tried. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] quick way to move from old theme to new CMS theme
I was doing my testing offline with the copy of the theme files locally. It worked fine to solve a lot of issues with retyping and such. Gives an ability to do some offline work first then add it though the account service pages. There were typos the cropped into the CMS pages that would have been a lot easier to find/edit, if we could do the body of the pages offline and then copy/paste it to the heading/footer coding that is online specific. http://libreofficebox.org/projects/ I assume that the links for the Project and the DVD ISO files [and mirrored links] will be listed on this page. There are only 3 projects listed so far. --- List of available projects so far: Brasilian NL Team * Website: brasil.libreofficebox.org German NL Team * Website: de.libreofficebox.org * DVD: dvd.de.libreofficebox.org North American Community DVD * Website: www.libreoffice-na.us On 07/20/2011 04:36 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: Hi TIm, Your timing is good - I just started looking at the dvd site for tonight. I know your are thinking that what jsut did would all allow the stuff to just copy over to the CMS but it doesn't work that way..but it will make it easier for you to see what is happening with the theming. Anyway - I also know that we need to finish up here and get this beast out..I'll do my best to get to a point where we can try a build against the CMS server tomorrow and see where we are really at - it maybe that we can just push this first build even..not sure really till we see it. A couple of other items really quick: 1 - talked with the owner of World Label yesterday about the templates from that site - they are fine our using them and in fact he is going to review them this coming week, he thinks they have some updates that we don't have and would want to update the files for us. 2 - the distribution site - we need to nail down how that is going to work. If you look the two sites brasil.libreofficebox.org de.libreofficebox.org you see that in the fist they are using an outside server for the file, which is probably ok for them because, I assume, the vast majority of their downloads come from within Brazil. The German disc on the other hand uses the mirror servers - they also publish two different disc images, a 3.3 and a 3.4 disc - so that is I think more of what we want to do - but need to bring this up on the mailing lists...I suppose I can do that right now, as soon as I send this to you. Anyway - these changed files - are they just on your local machine? //drew On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 16:26 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I did some testing. I took the old files from the LibreOffice-NA.US site and placed them in the proper folders and used the CMS theme files. All I did was replace the heading and menu coding. Most of the parts of the pages worked fine. Some of the items in the old /pic/ folders could not be found since the new folder tree, but it looked very good for the most part of the rest of the page. If there are any pages left for conversion, maybe that idea could be tried. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] E-Mail to t...@documentfoundation.org
On 07/17/2011 06:29 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Am 17.07.2011 12:02, schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hi, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote on 2011-07-16 21.30: I sent today morning an email with an attachment to t...@documentfountation.org. The mail never reached back. Doesn't the system working today? it should work. Are you subscribed to the list? Of course. I sent some emails some times ago which reached the ml quite well. The last I sent was on 10.07.2011: http://go.mail-archive.com/S22YtVbVSVIJg7cD9d-clqfiIro= Can you send an email for testing it? Was that date 10.07.2011 -- July 10th 2011? Just checking, since it looked to me first as October 7th 2011. I am in the USA so we do the dates a little differently. July 10th 2011 would be 07-10-2011 or 07.10.2011. So it could be a little confusing sometimes when you have different countries using different date formats. It would be nice to have some universal dating system taught so everyone worldwide would use the same dating format. But each country seems to want their own style of doing things, so it may never happen in my lifetime. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Black list
Do you want the black-listed senders to be black-listed from the entire list, or just from being sent to you? I am not sure what you wanted. There has to be some way. Since you have to sign up to be on these list, you should be able to remove addresses for the list as a type of black list. Is there a system for checking addresses before they can be signed up to the list? Is there a way to say this address is already on the list or is one that should not be on the list? Then there is a big question; WHO decides if the sender is a spammer? One person, two, five? Hopefully someone has though of all of this and has made a system to do what is needed. But, for the short term, people could always use some internal system to their email client/reader to block or delete emails from addresses that you personally state is source of spam. On 07/16/2011 10:56 AM, luizh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is there any way to put unwanted senders on a black list? I wonder why, so as moderates these posts senders (spam) always come back. Rgds, Luiz Oliveira -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] 30 language statement needs to be changed to 100+ languages supported?
On the page of: http://www.libreoffice.org/features/ This statement seems to be out of date: There is a large base of satisfied LibreOffice users worldwide, and it is available in more than 30 languages and for all major operating systems,. . . . . . . . I remember seeing over 100 languages in the language packs on the download page. SO 30 languages seems to be wrong. Am I correct in my assumption that the 30 languages need to be changed to 100+ languages? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice Extension and Template website: Current Status
On 07/04/2011 03:51 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: Hi all, I try to give an update about the current status of the LibreOffice extension and template website. I have reworked a product for the Plone instance (Plone Software Center) with the help of a Plone developer (Elizabeth Leddy). She changed some fields inside the PSC so that we can customize them. We have an overview page for all (software)projects inside the extensions and the template part of the website. We can set the tags for categories and choose the licenses we want to provide. I created a special option for Linux-x64 because I know that extensions must be created especially for this environment. I do remember seeing extensions that are system specific. Some were Windows only, while others were created with one extension for each OS. The must be created for Linux-x64 is a wonder for me. I run many extensions on my Ubuntu 64-bit desktop, but only a few are specific to Linux or Linux-x64. So why must there be a different extension for Linux-x64 than for the rest of the OSs? Today I installed a new add-on that supports a blobstorage for the PSC, but I get an issue with it. I had to examine this problem and find a solution with the help of the Plone community. If we can activate a blobstorage for the PSC all the binary files will be stored in the filesystem. Thus the database of the Plone instance will not blow up and slow the instance down (in the future, when there are many extension and template files uploaded). It makes is also very easy to scan the uploaded files for virus. Regards, Andreas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Improved Download Page Proposal
On 07/04/2011 05:44 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Cor, hi all! Thanks for the feedback ... Am Samstag, den 02.07.2011, 01:02 +0200 schrieb Cor Nouws: Hi Christoph + all people working on this, Christoph Noack wrote (02-07-11 00:07) during the last days (weeks?) I've worked on an improved download page proposal. Before I re-state all the information, please have a look at: http://luxate.blogspot.com/2011/07/improved-download-page-proposal.html Fine details. Good that wordings are chosen to describe various versions etc. I started to work on the wording some time before the recent release announcement ... so now it might be even a bit different to what we've used in the announcement. So maybe this needs a bit revision as well as serious proof-reading. Only one scenario is missing: - In one or two months, the 3.4.x version will be our default. - Still, there will be the 3.3.x versions released and made available for the conservative deployments or those having more to do (something I can hardly imagine ;-) than test / integrate / roll out new versions of LibreOffice. So a description is needed for that too. (Rock solid or so. See http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/07/01/libreoffice-3-4-1-provides-stable-new-features-for-every-user/ - hmm, where are the colors of the table gone?) To quote myself (to be found in the Design Decisions section): Although there might be several releases available at the same time, I decided to only offer two releases at the same time on the download pages. Offering more official releases might confuse less experienced users (although it can easily be done within the proposed structure). More detailed, when I've started to work on that page, I even considered three different versions to cover ultra stable, balances stability vs. features, contains only latest features. You can even find the early descriptions in the wiki (history): http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Design/Whiteboards/Download_Pageoldid=26394#Versions_Descriptions But (especially) due to Marc's comments I was made aware that more than to options might be really confusing - not counting RCs, Betas, the SDK, etc. And, my aim was to get a stable site without the need to add / remove items people might search for later (because they are unaware of our release scheme). Consequently, looking and the release schedule (or the graphic you've linked to, which explains it very well) I came to the conclusion that default = rock solid and latest features = bleeding edge. If this is wrong, no worries, since the proposal easily handles three different versions at a time. I thought 3.4.5 comes out BEFORE 3.5.0 comes out. The graphic in the blog talked about above shows 3.5.0 coming out between 3.4.3 and 3.4.4. I am referring to the release plan on the following page http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan , vers. the graphic's time line. The details can be found on a dedicated wiki page. I hope that all the questions that might arise are answered there: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Download_Page Looks great to me - pls implement it tomorrow ;-) Hehe, still searching for help ... I can provide the colors, the graphics and such stuff. So if anybody may help starting yesterday, then please raise your hand ;-) Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] right hand side of wrapped paragraphs hidden - any solutions other than BR tags?
https://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/home/en/;
I found the part of the CSS that causes the right side of the page to be
hidden.
Why this hiddenoption is needed.
Couldthere could be some sort of auto wrap option somewhere that will wrap the text instead of hiding it.
I wondered about that. The wrapping works, but it leaves off a lot of text on
the right hand side of the paragraph.
#Layout {
width: 860px;
background: #fff url(../images/bg-sidebar.png) no-repeat top left;
clear: both;
overflow: hidden;
margin: 0px auto;
padding: 15px 15px 15px 15px;
}
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Re: [libreoffice-website] right hand side of wrapped paragraphs hidden - any solutions other than BR tags?
On 06/24/2011 11:04 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi *, On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:37 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: https://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/home/en/; I found the part of the CSS that causes the right side of the page to be hidden. Why this hiddenoption is needed. a) You *must not* usediv id=Layout in your html, there is already one div with that ID as part of the default layout, and you cannot have two elements with the same ID in html, this is not valid. Same for the other divs you did duplicate (BgContainer, Container, the Header) b) And you have an additional div class=typography, this again is autogenerated, and is set to the full width of the page. When you have additional elements on the left, then it doesn't fit anymore. So the problem is you're misusing predefined/special css styles and have hard formatting in your html. Furthermore it abuses tables for layout. Tables don't make autoflow easier at all. Couldthere could be some sort of auto wrap option somewhere that will wrap the text instead of hiding it. No, as you explicitly tell it to not do that. The html contains manual width specification of 784 pixel So clean up the HTML - what you try to do is to fit the content within the content, and that doesn't work. ciao Christian I was looking at the layout CSS for the CMS server and was wondering why the wrapped text seems to be hidden on the right hand side of the paragraph. I was wondering if there was a fix that could be used so NA site that is being built on the CMS server, now on the libreoffice-na.us site, so there would not be any hidden text issues. The table work was to deal with some alignment issues, but not it is being rebuilt to the CMS server specs. Is there a way that the right site of the page would auto wrap so there is no hidden text? Drew is doing the work right now, but I will be helping once I finish up some commitments locally. I want the pages to be the best looking pages that can be done using the CMS server CSS. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] right hand side of wrapped paragraphs hidden - any solutions other than BR tags?
On 06/24/2011 11:46 AM, drew wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 17:34 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Drew, *, On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:26 PM, drewd...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 17:04 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:37 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: https://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/home/en/; I found the part of the CSS that causes the right side of the page to be hidden. Why this hiddenoption is needed. a) You *must not* usediv id=Layout in your html, there is already one div with that ID as part of the default layout, and you cannot have two elements with the same ID in html, this is not valid. Same for the other divs you did duplicate (BgContainer, Container, the Header) b) And you have an additional div class=typography, this again is autogenerated, and is set to the full width of the page. When you have additional elements on the left, then it doesn't fit anymore. So the problem is you're misusing predefined/special css styles and have hard formatting in your html. Well, when the original HTML files where made they weren't in the CMS system so there was no misuse of anything, per so. Well, let me be more clear: what is stored in the CMS is not the complete body, as this would make it impossible to create the navigation dynamic, to have a common header, footer, etc. What is stored in the CMS is the real content only. But what was added in your sample was the complete body, duplicateing the header and whatnot. thanks for explaining that. It's pretty clear from the structure, that a page that was created by the CMS was taken as a template, but you just did copy too much. Absolutely right, that became very clear when I started looking at this. For the default page type, only what is wihin thediv class=typography is part of the CMS (minus the header (h2)that is also taken from the page automatically) @Tim - I know the page that came back after the fix the other day looks like hell - but no one is going to leave it like that. I maybe should of put a nice looking landing page there, but I figured it was just Ugly for a few days and better to get the files we need to like to moved and rearranged first. //drew I have no problem with ugly with the move to better and then to lovely. What I really was concerned about was that hiding of the right hand side of the text - so the thread was started. I also wondered about some other items that might crop up. Why the vertical navigation instead of the horizontal second or third ones like both LO.org site and the wiki site. The vertical navigation tends to remove needed screen space, as I see it. I never liked them much. Now that we have about 600px width for space, we need to guard as much of it is possible. Actually, for the installs, I added thought adding German might be good, since that is the last language not listed that the US schools teach in my area. Right now the installs on the CMS site shows 3.3.2 and not 3.3.3, so that may need to changed. -- Also I was wondering how the system would compensate for all the shared folders and links so the files will be properly located on the ISO of the DVD? The only one I have seen so far is from Brazil and it looks like they did very little that was similar to what the NA DVD will need. Maybe someone could PM me about how that will work, or point me to the documentation already available. As for the extensions and such that is not currently on our DVD and currently resides in my private extension folders; I was wondering if anyone who is currently working on a CMS site would want these file uploaded to a shared folder so everyone could use them. I still thing LibreOffice need to have their own large extension and template site. The dictionaries now on the NA testing site are many, many, more than listed in the current LO/LO-Planet extension listing. The same with the templates I have in my template folders. LO needs to not have the link for these .oxt files, or archived files, point to a flaky OOo server or any server that is totally pro OOo over LibreOffice. Why should we promote using OOo's server when the files could be on a shared folder of a LibreOffice server/system. So do anyone want 100+ .oxt extension [not dictionaries] uploaded to a shared folder, along with the 1000+ template sample files that are not .oxt files? I most likely have a lot of artwork from free sources that could be uploaded as well. It is up to the groups to say yes or no. If anyone would like a archived file containing the .oxt files, or other stuff, let me know. I would be able to make them available some way, some where, for people to look and see what they are all about. Every extension file that I downloaded from OOo's site has an associated PDF file printed from the download page[s] so people can know what these files are all
