Re: [libreoffice-website] Download pages for two versions
(2011/06/03 4:07), Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Takashi, *, On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Takashi Nakamoto bluedw...@bpost.plala.or.jp wrote: (2011/06/02 8:11), Christian Lohmaier wrote: I'm glad if someone has a concrete proposal as to how the user would choose between downloads (what I will do at first is to show both 3.4 and 3.3 versions in the filtered selection, with 3.4 coming first) If this is technically possible and easy, I love this idea. yes, it wasn't hard to do. People pointed out that the 3.4.0 version is to be considered an early-adopters version, and still has quite some nasty known bugs. (see http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.4#Most_annoying_bugs_in_3.4.0 ) so I added visual indicators (exclamation icon and checkmarck/tick icon) to the corresponding versions, so that in the text above it can be pointed out that the 3.4.0 version is not for the business user that requires 100% stability, etc. (what also the adapt-o-meter idea shows) So tell me what you think about this: http://pumbaa.documentfoundation.org:7780/download/ you can use the box/icon styles shown here: http://website.libreoffice.org/silverstripe/styles-you-can-use/ to add the corresponding warning/explanations Although the release has been published, I still want to say this is great. Best regards, Takashi Nakamoto -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Download pages for two versions
Christian Lohmaier wrote: I think we should have two separate pages for those two versions. If everyone agrees to this, then I'll add it that way. Being out of the loop a bit w/o net currently - have we made a decision here? Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Download pages for two versions
Hi Christian, (2011/06/02 8:11), Christian Lohmaier wrote: I'm glad if someone has a concrete proposal as to how the user would choose between downloads (what I will do at first is to show both 3.4 and 3.3 versions in the filtered selection, with 3.4 coming first) If this is technically possible and easy, I love this idea. From my perspective, we are actually having two download pages; one for released version, and the other for pre-release version, so I thought that it would be natural to just add another download page. However, if we can have a single download page which allows users to choose which released version to download, that would be the best. I feel ashamed of missing this idea. This is also good from one of the local web admin's perspecitve because this way we don't have to bother to take care of two separate download pages for released versions. Best regards, Takashi Nakamoto -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Download pages for two versions
Hi Christian, * Christian Lohmaier wrote (02-06-11 21:07) so I added visual indicators (exclamation icon and checkmarck/tick icon) to the corresponding versions, so that in the text above it can be pointed out that the 3.4.0 version is not for the business user that requires 100% stability, etc. (what also the adapt-o-meter idea shows) So tell me what you think about this: http://pumbaa.documentfoundation.org:7780/download/ For me it is OK - provided the text above is short and clear. you can use the box/icon styles shown here: http://website.libreoffice.org/silverstripe/styles-you-can-use/ to add the corresponding warning/explanations Thanks, Cor (sorry for being mostly absent the last days. Alas it's not always possible for me to spend many hours on this work.) -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Download pages for two versions
Am 31.05.2011 21:04, schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: Hi Christian, *, Christian Lohmaier schrieb: 2011/5/31 Takashi Nakamotobluedw...@bpost.plala.or.jp: [..] How can we deal with two versions, namely 3.3.x and 3.4.x, in the download page? Not sure, as we didn't have that situation. I think we should have two separate pages for those two versions. If everyone agrees to this, then I'll add it that way. Hmm, having two places for download for me doesn't appear beeing an ideal solution. People might come over several ways to download and not having the joice in *one* place they might catch the wrong one. So my vote: *One* download page. +1 FYI: The design team plan to have a adopt-o-meter to give the user the possibility to decide wich version is the right: http://go.mail-archive.com/2jzoifmDbaRdEKwXvnLS5RF2_qI= Also Christoph mentioned on the design-list [2]: Am 23.05.2011 15:49, schrieb Christoph Noack: Mmh, the adopt-o-meter shows it nicely (which is good), but the decision itself has to be done by the user (how to select the desired LibO version, where do I find it, ...). Can this be somehow aligned with the download selector on the website? Something like: * Official Release, for home and office use -- default * Highly stable, for corporate use * Newest Features, for early adopters So, the users may decide - but don't need to. And the decision to go for (e.g.) stability is directly tied to a certain version - no additional lookups. [2] The whole mail: http://go.mail-archive.com/Z7cGY5OP5jJtA-jgEVa_dmD4Fv4= -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Download pages for two versions
Hi Klaus-Jürgen, *, On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:23 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: Am 31.05.2011 21:04, schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: 2011/5/31 Takashi Nakamotobluedw...@bpost.plala.or.jp: [one download page for both 3.3 and 3.4, or two seperate ones] FYI: The design team plan to have a adopt-o-meter to give the user the possibility to decide wich version is the right: http://go.mail-archive.com/2jzoifmDbaRdEKwXvnLS5RF2_qI= Hmm - nice idea, but nothing ready-for-the-website. At least I right now would not know a reasonable place to put it on the site/present it to the user (at least not with the annotations that are part of the image) - any mockup for a page that implements the adapt-o-meter? I'm glad if someone has a concrete proposal as to how the user would choose between downloads (what I will do at first is to show both 3.4 and 3.3 versions in the filtered selection, with 3.4 coming first) But if someone has a better idea, go on, I'd love to hear it :-) ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Download pages for two versions
Hi all, We, Japanese language team, are now preparing for the upcoming release. Now we have one problem on the download page. How can we deal with two versions, namely 3.3.x and 3.4.x, in the download page? Those who have admin access on each language site may know that there are the page type Download page which automatically generates links to the latest released versions. What happens after we release 3.4? I think we should have two separate pages for those two versions. Best regards, Takashi Nakamoto -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Download pages for two versions
Le 2011-05-31 10:26, Takashi Nakamoto a écrit : Hi all, We, Japanese language team, are now preparing for the upcoming release. Now we have one problem on the download page. How can we deal with two versions, namely 3.3.x and 3.4.x, in the download page? Those who have admin access on each language site may know that there are the page type Download page which automatically generates links to the latest released versions. What happens after we release 3.4? I think we should have two separate pages for those two versions. Best regards, Takashi Nakamoto Hi Takashi At the last marketing confcall meeting[1], it was decided that there would be a webpage for the 3.4 release and the New Features and Fixes would most likely be renamed to something more suitable such as 3.3.1 Features. This would allow site visitors to toggle from one webpage to the other for comparison. I am just now putting the final touches on the 3.4 webpage. I have asked Michael Meeks to take a look at it and perhaps if Florian, Christian and Thorsten could take a look and comment on it, this would be helpful.[2] As it stands now, I am hoping to have the pages renamed 3.4 Features and 3.3.1 Features so that these webpage titles can fit on the menu bar where they appear. Once approved, the translation teams will be able to get to their translation of the 3.4 webpage. I am hoping to streamline this process for the next release. Cheers Marc [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls#10-May-2011 [2] you'll find the webpage on Silverstripe under the Downloads section. It is temporarily called 3.4 New Features and Fixes -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Download pages for two versions
(2011/06/01 1:49), Marc Paré wrote: Le 2011-05-31 10:26, Takashi Nakamoto a écrit : Hi all, We, Japanese language team, are now preparing for the upcoming release. Now we have one problem on the download page. How can we deal with two versions, namely 3.3.x and 3.4.x, in the download page? Those who have admin access on each language site may know that there are the page type Download page which automatically generates links to the latest released versions. What happens after we release 3.4? I think we should have two separate pages for those two versions. Best regards, Takashi Nakamoto Hi Takashi At the last marketing confcall meeting[1], it was decided that there would be a webpage for the 3.4 release and the New Features and Fixes would most likely be renamed to something more suitable such as 3.3.1 Features. This would allow site visitors to toggle from one webpage to the other for comparison. I am just now putting the final touches on the 3.4 webpage. I have asked Michael Meeks to take a look at it and perhaps if Florian, Christian and Thorsten could take a look and comment on it, this would be helpful.[2] As it stands now, I am hoping to have the pages renamed 3.4 Features and 3.3.1 Features so that these webpage titles can fit on the menu bar where they appear. Once approved, the translation teams will be able to get to their translation of the 3.4 webpage. OK. This is great. Thank you for your effort and I'm looking forward to seeing the 3.4 feature page. I'll (probably) translate it once it's available. (Unfortunately, I have no admin access to www.libreoffice.org, so I can't see it now.) However, I'm afraid my question was not understood correctly. I was talking about Download page[1], which currently mentions 3.3.2. As we will have two version in parallel, I think we should prepare two download pages. And I wonder how each language site can deal with those two download pages in SilverStripe. If I understand correctly, when we mark a page as Download page type, it automatically generates links to the latest LO binaries with language and platform drop boxes to choose. However, how those links will be changed when we release the new version? If these links change to the 3.4 automatically, we may need to update each language site accordingly, and may need to prepare new page type like Download old page and create a new download page for 3.3.2 accordingly. We want to see what need to be updated on the website for the upcoming release. [1] http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ Best regards, Takashi Nakamoto -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Download pages for two versions
Hi Christian, *, Christian Lohmaier schrieb: 2011/5/31 Takashi Nakamoto bluedw...@bpost.plala.or.jp: [..] How can we deal with two versions, namely 3.3.x and 3.4.x, in the download page? Not sure, as we didn't have that situation. I think we should have two separate pages for those two versions. If everyone agrees to this, then I'll add it that way. Hmm, having two places for download for me doesn't appear beeing an ideal solution. People might come over several ways to download and not having the joice in *one* place they might catch the wrong one. So my vote: *One* download page. Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
