Re: [libreoffice-website] Multilingual LibreOffice website

2018-08-13 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 13/08/2018 15:15, Jean Spiteri wrote:

> As a call to action, the community is being asked to give its feedback about
> the proposal. Feel free to comment about the output or report any bugs you
> might encounter.

Works for me, but the sentence in the dark grey banner should be in
Italian and not in English.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Multilingual LibreOffice website

2018-08-13 Thread Mike Saunders
Hi Sophie,

On 13/08/2018 16:08, sophi wrote:
> 
> I don't think we want to use flags as it's about countries and not
> languages, we have always tried to avoid them as it could lead to some
> issues.

Ah yes, that's a very good point actually. One other option for a small
menu icon would be the Wikipedia mobile site approach:

https://i.imgur.com/MNBHqnj.png

That icon under the title opens up a list of languages. But maybe it's
familiar to regular Wikipedia users, but wouldn't be so effective on the
LibreOffice site for newcomers...

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Multilingual LibreOffice website

2018-08-13 Thread sophi
Hi Mike,

Just on one point,
Le 13/08/2018 à 16:02, Mike Saunders a écrit :
> Hi Jean,
> 
> On 13/08/2018 15:15, Jean Spiteri wrote:
>>
>> If you want to see what is the output of the proposal, please visit
>> newdesign.libreoffice.org. On top of the green menu bar, there should be a
>> black banner with some text on it. The actual proposal is that the banner is
>> seen only by those who have set a primary language other than English (US)
>> in their browser.
> 
> Thanks for looking into this! Yes, I totally agree that we need to make
> the other language sites more prominent. We often get emails to info@
> from non-English speakers who try their best to give feedback or ask
> questions, but don't know that there's a whole LibreOffice site in their
> language.
> 
> I think the banner is OK, but it does push the rest of the content down
> a bit. Is there any way to add a "Dismiss" button so that it's not shown
> again to people who don't want to change?
> 
> Another alternative would be to have an extra menu on the right-hand
> side, after donate, with a UK/USA flag for the English site. This would
> keep it nice and small, and could have other flags in the drop-down list
> underneath. Not sure how easy that is to implement, though!

I don't think we want to use flags as it's about countries and not
languages, we have always tried to avoid them as it could lead to some
issues.

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Multilingual LibreOffice website

2018-08-13 Thread Mike Saunders
Hi Jean,

On 13/08/2018 15:15, Jean Spiteri wrote:
> 
> If you want to see what is the output of the proposal, please visit
> newdesign.libreoffice.org. On top of the green menu bar, there should be a
> black banner with some text on it. The actual proposal is that the banner is
> seen only by those who have set a primary language other than English (US)
> in their browser.

Thanks for looking into this! Yes, I totally agree that we need to make
the other language sites more prominent. We often get emails to info@
from non-English speakers who try their best to give feedback or ask
questions, but don't know that there's a whole LibreOffice site in their
language.

I think the banner is OK, but it does push the rest of the content down
a bit. Is there any way to add a "Dismiss" button so that it's not shown
again to people who don't want to change?

Another alternative would be to have an extra menu on the right-hand
side, after donate, with a UK/USA flag for the English site. This would
keep it nice and small, and could have other flags in the drop-down list
underneath. Not sure how easy that is to implement, though!

Cheers,
Mike

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[libreoffice-website] Multilingual LibreOffice website

2018-08-13 Thread Jean Spiteri
Thanks to the huge international community around The Document Foundation,
numerous volunteers (and non-) work to maintain a version of the LibreOffice
website in their own language. Especially, when these are kept up-to-date,
these versions should be promoted, maybe not as substitutes for the official
English website but as local complementary resources. It could also be that,
for a user, knowing that there are other people talking his own language in
the community might lead him to more motivation than seeing the community as
a group of English-speaking individuals. This consideration is especially
valid as work is being carried out to have more volunteers on board. 

Thus, to promote the different versions of the LibreOffice website better,
it is being proposed to add a small notification bar on top of the menu to
hint the user about the availability of a local version of the website. This
mailing post is being submitted to call for feedback about this addition to
the LibreOffice website before asking administrators to implement it on the
official website. 

If you want to see what is the output of the proposal, please visit
newdesign.libreoffice.org. On top of the green menu bar, there should be a
black banner with some text on it. The actual proposal is that the banner is
seen only by those who have set a primary language other than English (US)
in their browser. However, to allow testing, this has been overridden to
show up always. (Please note that those who have English (US) set as their
browser's primary language will see incomplete text - This is expected.)

As a call to action, the community is being asked to give its feedback about
the proposal. Feel free to comment about the output or report any bugs you
might encounter.

Thank you.   



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