[libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link

2013-02-05 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2013-02-05 12:53, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

Hi Marc, *,

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com  wrote:

[...]
So, there is now a bug out to try to correct this[1] and I am proposing that
we NOT use the last link but that we now use a more appropriate SilverStripe
page here https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/readme; or just not have a
readme page on our site and remove the sentence from the readme file.
The QA people will eventually close the bug with a decision.


My stance on this was and will always be to not put links pointing to
currently available pages in whatever cms we're using. Editors will
keep removing or renaming pages, breaking the links. Site might be
restructured and links break.

So I advocate to use hub.libreoffice.org links - hub.libreoffice.org is meant to
* add a layer of abstraction.
* direct people to different pages depening on what version is used
and what language is used (when that info is passed as parameter)


In the meantime, we have all the past versions of LibreOffice pointing to
the page that does not exit.


And especially to solve that problem. any no-longer existing
hub.libreoffice.org links could be redirected to a looks like you're
using an outdated version or similar page without much of a hassle.

Especially with links that should point to different NL-Pages, adding
direct links to de.libreoffice.org, nl.libreoffice.org, etc is a no-go
in my opinion. As you cannot add links for langauges that don't have
that page yet/don't exist yet into LibreOffice. And it is already hard
enough to keep pages needed for links put into old releases on the
english page, it is a magnitude more complicated to heep those around
on many sites.

ciao
Christian



No sure if you read this whole thread, but Florian set a redirect on the 
link and it is fine now. I have closed the bug.


The jury is still out as to whether we need the readme on our website -- 
I would vote to remove it. I will take this up again once things slow 
down and we get more time to decide.


Thanks for your info which all makes sense.

Cheers,

Marc


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[libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link

2013-01-31 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2013-01-28 22:58, Marc Paré a écrit :

This note is mostly for Erich,

For the last 2 years, there has been a problem with our readme file in
our installation packages. The readme file has a sentence that
re-directs our users to a http://libreoffice/welcome/helpme.html page
that does not exist.

Our version of SilverStripe does NOT allow to add suffixes to its pages
(but SilverStripe 3.X does). I realized this when I tried to create the
page, it turn the .html into -html.

So, there is now a bug out to try to correct this[1] and I am proposing
that we NOT use the last link but that we now use a more appropriate
SilverStripe page here https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/readme; or
just not have a readme page on our site and remove the sentence from
the readme file. The QA people will eventually close the bug with a
decision.

In the meantime, we have all the past versions of LibreOffice pointing
to the page that does not exit.

Erich: Could you put a redirect of request of
http://www.libreoffice.org/welcome/readme.html to
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/readme on our site? The
SilverStripe forums suggested that one way to do this is through our
.htaccess. You would also have to comment on it that the redirect should
not be removed till we are certain that legacy versions of LibreOffice
are no longer used.

It looks like this will still be in LibreOffice v.4.0 unless QA changes it.

Or would you have any other suggestion?

The bug can be found here:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54206. BTW ... the wrong
link also shows in all readme for all languages; so, the readme points
to a wrong page for a large number of people who choose it.




I have closed this bug as Florian has created a redirect which should 
work for all groups using the erroneous link in the readme file. It will 
continue redirecting for legacy reasons.


Thanks Florian!

Cheers,

Marc

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link

2013-01-30 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2013-01-30 02:40, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hi,

Marc Paré wrote on 2013-01-29 23:23:

Could you try again? It doesn't seem to work. (Note I am just clicking
on the link in the text up-above.


hm, seems the original mail contained two different links. I had this
one in place:

Redirect /welcome/helpme.html http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/readme

I've now changed it to

Redirect /welcome/readme.html http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/readme

Florian



Still doesn't work for me. Does it work for you?



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link

2013-01-30 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Marc Paré wrote on 2013-01-30 09:19:

Still doesn't work for me. Does it work for you?


yes. :-)
You might need to restart your browser, sometimes it doesn't work when 
you opened the page previously, since it's still cached.


Florian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link

2013-01-30 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2013-01-30 03:25, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hi,

Marc Paré wrote on 2013-01-30 09:19:

Still doesn't work for me. Does it work for you?


yes. :-)
You might need to restart your browser, sometimes it doesn't work when
you opened the page previously, since it's still cached.

Florian



Thanks! My fault ... malformed URL. Doh! :-) Works!

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link

2013-01-30 Thread Dennis Roczek
I get redirected to http://de.libreoffice.org/welcome/helpme.html
which is a 404...

so maybe only directing if there is a localized version, otherwise to
the EN version...

Regards,
Dennis

2013/1/30 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com:
 Le 2013-01-30 03:25, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

 Hi,

 Marc Paré wrote on 2013-01-30 09:19:

 Still doesn't work for me. Does it work for you?


 yes. :-)
 You might need to restart your browser, sometimes it doesn't work when
 you opened the page previously, since it's still cached.

 Florian


 Thanks! My fault ... malformed URL. Doh! :-) Works!


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link

2013-01-30 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Dennis Roczek wrote on 2013-01-30 16:17:

I get redirected tohttp://de.libreoffice.org/welcome/helpme.html
which is a 404...


from where do you get redirected there?

Florian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link

2013-01-29 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Florian,

Le 2013-01-29 04:32, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 2013-01-29 04:58:

Erich: Could you put a redirect of request of
http://www.libreoffice.org/welcome/readme.html to
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/readme on our site? The
SilverStripe forums suggested that one way to do this is through our
.htaccess. You would also have to comment on it that the redirect should
not be removed till we are certain that legacy versions of LibreOffice
are no longer used.


thanks for being so careful about this, good spot! I've now set-up the
redirection via a Redirect directive in the web server.

Florian



Could you try again? It doesn't seem to work. (Note I am just clicking 
on the link in the text up-above.


Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [BUG 54206] Redirect for our readme.html link

2013-01-29 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Marc Paré wrote on 2013-01-29 23:23:

Could you try again? It doesn't seem to work. (Note I am just clicking
on the link in the text up-above.


hm, seems the original mail contained two different links. I had this 
one in place:


Redirect /welcome/helpme.html http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/readme

I've now changed it to

Redirect /welcome/readme.html http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/readme

Florian

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