Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2013-01-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 2012-12-29 11:07:


I was hoping that we could manage an EN blog to allow the EN community
to grow. At this point, there is simply no growth in the EN community.
The outcome would still be the same if we did this, there would be the
official TDF blog and then the EN community blog. This would put the EN
community at the same level playing field as all other communities and
put into the EN community's hands the management of their own blog. We
need to give the EN community a chance to work on an identity and to
accept more responsibility for blog contributions.


I totally understand, and I appreciate your work on this. Will you wear 
the hat on the Planet redesign, so to speak? I am quite swamped with 
infra work for some weeks to come before I can look into this one. 
However, if someone can have a look at it and prepare things, e.g. by 
testing with a locally installed Planet setup, I can integrate it quickly.


[single sign-on]


Sure, I know that this is a wishlist on many lists. It does seem to be
complicated to put into place. Will the new infrastructure move help
with this?


It is not in the current concept. The current migration plan is more to 
ease deployment, but foresees no major changes right now. Single sign-on 
takes a lot of time to implement, so it is only a mid- to long-term 
topic, I fear.


Florian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-29 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2012-12-28 07:45, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hello,

Marc Paré wrote on 2012-12-05 17:24:


My suggestions is that http://planet.documentfoundation.org/ would now
be the official planet with the nl planets showing in the right margin.
Or as Cedric suggested on the FR list, a setup such as the Opensouse
site would also work[1], The links at the top would show the different
nl planets and NOT the blogs.


I like the general approach, definitely. Setting up various Planets is
not a big problem. We can re-use the template if needed, and just adjust
the Planet's configuration file, to reflect the localized content. It is
even possible, with some work from the infra team, that the local teams
can adjust their content themselves, i.e. edit the configuration file
Planet uses. For the beginning, it's probably best if I manage the
configuration files, until we have some decent web interface. The
current setup requires editing of the configuration via SSH.


However, I do have some comments about the effectiveness of that site
which I explained on the FR discuss list. In particular, if we were to
follow such a model, I would suggest:

* links at the top would be nl planets
* link names would all be localised
* there would be a link to the EN planet


This sounds sensible to me.


* all articles showing on the landing page would be those of official
TDF/LibreOffice news (no EN blogs other than an Official TDF blog would
show on this landing page)


Does this mean you want to have two English blog pages, like one
official, and one nonofficial? I am not sure if this makes sense. The
official English feed is the TDF blog, and so I think the landing page
should contain all English blogs, including the TDF one, but not
exclusively the TDF one.



I was hoping that we could manage an EN blog to allow the EN community 
to grow. At this point, there is simply no growth in the EN community. 
The outcome would still be the same if we did this, there would be the 
official TDF blog and then the EN community blog. This would put the EN 
community at the same level playing field as all other communities and 
put into the EN community's hands the management of their own blog. We 
need to give the EN community a chance to work on an identity and to 
accept more responsibility for blog contributions.


It may take a while to organize the EN community as, at the moment, 
there is no set structure to it. This will help it organize and group 
the many countries that fit into this group[1]. There are quite a few 
and this may be just the right opportunity for them to organize themselves.



* offer registrations offering members the option of picking favourites
(nl planets), permitting them to see only the planets of their choice
once logged in (allow members to be logged in over an extended 7 days to
promote regular visits to the site)


The current software we use, Planet, does not allow for that. I am not
sure if there is a software offering that, and I am not sure if that
makes sense. Anyone who'd like to have their own compilation of blogs
can use a feed reader of Google reader anyways. Maybe we can hint at
such a solution, instead of investing time in reinventing the wheel?



Sure, no problem with this. This was more of a wish to see blog readers 
to re-visit the site(s). The feeds are good, but does not get readers 
back to our pages.



* IMO, we should eventually work towards a "one TDF login does all" for
all of our sites. This will allow us another metric for marketing
purposes -- even better as these members would be more engaged members.


This is one of the long-term goals the infra team has. Unfortunately, it
is not quite easy to achieve, we have been discussing and researching on
this for quite some months now. It is on the todo, but I don't expect it
to happen short-term, it requires lots of development on our own, and
makes installing new tools more complicated, since the approaches in
single sign-on (OpenID, LDAP, whatever) is different or even totally
lacking.



Sure, I know that this is a wishlist on many lists. It does seem to be 
complicated to put into place. Will the new infrastructure move help 
with this?



Florian



Marc

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_where_English_is_an_official_language


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-28 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

Marc Paré wrote on 2012-12-05 17:24:


My suggestions is that http://planet.documentfoundation.org/ would now
be the official planet with the nl planets showing in the right margin.
Or as Cedric suggested on the FR list, a setup such as the Opensouse
site would also work[1], The links at the top would show the different
nl planets and NOT the blogs.


I like the general approach, definitely. Setting up various Planets is 
not a big problem. We can re-use the template if needed, and just adjust 
the Planet's configuration file, to reflect the localized content. It is 
even possible, with some work from the infra team, that the local teams 
can adjust their content themselves, i.e. edit the configuration file 
Planet uses. For the beginning, it's probably best if I manage the 
configuration files, until we have some decent web interface. The 
current setup requires editing of the configuration via SSH.



However, I do have some comments about the effectiveness of that site
which I explained on the FR discuss list. In particular, if we were to
follow such a model, I would suggest:

* links at the top would be nl planets
* link names would all be localised
* there would be a link to the EN planet


This sounds sensible to me.


* all articles showing on the landing page would be those of official
TDF/LibreOffice news (no EN blogs other than an Official TDF blog would
show on this landing page)


Does this mean you want to have two English blog pages, like one 
official, and one nonofficial? I am not sure if this makes sense. The 
official English feed is the TDF blog, and so I think the landing page 
should contain all English blogs, including the TDF one, but not 
exclusively the TDF one.



* offer registrations offering members the option of picking favourites
(nl planets), permitting them to see only the planets of their choice
once logged in (allow members to be logged in over an extended 7 days to
promote regular visits to the site)


The current software we use, Planet, does not allow for that. I am not 
sure if there is a software offering that, and I am not sure if that 
makes sense. Anyone who'd like to have their own compilation of blogs 
can use a feed reader of Google reader anyways. Maybe we can hint at 
such a solution, instead of investing time in reinventing the weel?



* IMO, we should eventually work towards a "one TDF login does all" for
all of our sites. This will allow us another metric for marketing
purposes -- even better as these members would be more engaged members.


This is one of the long-term goals the infra team has. Unfortunately, it 
is not quite easy to achieve, we have been discussing and researching on 
this for quite some months now. It is on the todo, but I don't expect it 
to happen short-term, it requires lots of development on our own, and 
makes installing new tools more complicated, since the approaches in 
single sign-on (OpenID, LDAP, whatever) is different or even totally 
lacking.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Marc,

Le Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:24:09 -0500,
Marc Paré  a écrit :

> Le 2012-12-05 04:18, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Le 03/12/2012 18:49, Marc Paré a écrit :
> >> [...]
> >> Thanks for all of these suggestions. Here is an additional
> >> suggestion that I would add:
> >>
> >> 5- Have an official TDF planet for official communication,
> >
> > I understand what is an official TDF _blog_ for official
> > communication, but an "official planet", what is it ?
> >
> > Best regards.
> > JBF
> >
> 
> My suggestions is that http://planet.documentfoundation.org/ would
> now be the official planet with the nl planets showing in the right
> margin. Or as Cedric suggested on the FR list, a setup such as the
> Opensouse site would also work[1], The links at the top would show
> the different nl planets and NOT the blogs.
> 
> However, I do have some comments about the effectiveness of that site 
> which I explained on the FR discuss list. In particular, if we were
> to follow such a model, I would suggest:
> 
> * links at the top would be nl planets
> * link names would all be localised
> * there would be a link to the EN planet
> * all articles showing on the landing page would be those of official 
> TDF/LibreOffice news (no EN blogs other than an Official TDF blog
> would show on this landing page)
> 
> Ultimately offer the following feature:
> 
> * offer registrations offering members the option of picking
> favourites (nl planets), permitting them to see only the planets of
> their choice once logged in (allow members to be logged in over an
> extended 7 days to promote regular visits to the site)
> 
> * IMO, we should eventually work towards a "one TDF login does all"
> for all of our sites. This will allow us another metric for marketing 
> purposes -- even better as these members would be more engaged
> members.
> 
> IMO, and this comment is what I find after having joined the
> community 2 years ago, we should really move away from the EN
> language being considered the ALL voice. I agree totally with the
> idea of having EN as the "lingua franca" of communication with the
> project (and for contributor groups), BUT, what has happened is the
> decimation of the EN community. There is no real nl-EN work being
> produced by nl-EN members. The overall impression from EN members is
> that they do not have their own space and that everyone considers
> anything EN tantamount to an official statement from the project.
> 
> We need to re-introduce the EN community wherever we can. In doing
> so, this will send a clear message to the nl groups that there is no 
> language of greater importance and that they can produce 
> first-run/first-thought-of ideas in their own communities. If the EN 
> community is interested in communicating this to ther members, then
> they can easily translate these and post them through their own nl-EN
> channels.
> 

A big +1 to your comments!


Thanks,

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-05 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2012-12-05 04:18, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit :

Hi,

Le 03/12/2012 18:49, Marc Paré a écrit :

[...]
Thanks for all of these suggestions. Here is an additional suggestion
that I would add:

5- Have an official TDF planet for official communication,


I understand what is an official TDF _blog_ for official communication,
but an "official planet", what is it ?

Best regards.
JBF



My suggestions is that http://planet.documentfoundation.org/ would now 
be the official planet with the nl planets showing in the right margin. 
Or as Cedric suggested on the FR list, a setup such as the Opensouse 
site would also work[1], The links at the top would show the different 
nl planets and NOT the blogs.


However, I do have some comments about the effectiveness of that site 
which I explained on the FR discuss list. In particular, if we were to 
follow such a model, I would suggest:


* links at the top would be nl planets
* link names would all be localised
* there would be a link to the EN planet
* all articles showing on the landing page would be those of official 
TDF/LibreOffice news (no EN blogs other than an Official TDF blog would 
show on this landing page)


Ultimately offer the following feature:

* offer registrations offering members the option of picking favourites 
(nl planets), permitting them to see only the planets of their choice 
once logged in (allow members to be logged in over an extended 7 days to 
promote regular visits to the site)


* IMO, we should eventually work towards a "one TDF login does all" for 
all of our sites. This will allow us another metric for marketing 
purposes -- even better as these members would be more engaged members.


IMO, and this comment is what I find after having joined the community 2 
years ago, we should really move away from the EN language being 
considered the ALL voice. I agree totally with the idea of having EN as 
the "lingua franca" of communication with the project (and for 
contributor groups), BUT, what has happened is the decimation of the EN 
community. There is no real nl-EN work being produced by nl-EN members. 
The overall impression from EN members is that they do not have their 
own space and that everyone considers anything EN tantamount to an 
official statement from the project.


We need to re-introduce the EN community wherever we can. In doing so, 
this will send a clear message to the nl groups that there is no 
language of greater importance and that they can produce 
first-run/first-thought-of ideas in their own communities. If the EN 
community is interested in communicating this to ther members, then they 
can easily translate these and post them through their own nl-EN channels.


Cheers,

Marc

[1] http://planet.opensuse.org/

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Wed, 05 Dec 2012 10:18:31 +0100,
Jean-Baptiste Faure  a écrit :

> Hi,
> 
> Le 03/12/2012 18:49, Marc Paré a écrit :
> > [...]
> > Thanks for all of these suggestions. Here is an additional
> > suggestion that I would add:
> >
> > 5- Have an official TDF planet for official communication, 
> 
> I understand what is an official TDF _blog_ for official
> communication, but an "official planet", what is it ?
> 
> Best regards.
> JBF
> 

An official collection of blogs...

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi,

Le 03/12/2012 18:49, Marc Paré a écrit :
> [...]
> Thanks for all of these suggestions. Here is an additional suggestion
> that I would add:
>
> 5- Have an official TDF planet for official communication, 

I understand what is an official TDF _blog_ for official communication,
but an "official planet", what is it ?

Best regards.
JBF

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-04 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2012-12-03 14:18, Sophie Gautier a écrit :


It's a good idea, but -you know there is always a but ;-) if you read
the planet, currently this is mostly developers and TDF board members
who are posting on it. So before creating planets for each language,
having one containing all the languages would be enough and may be less
intimidating for non English bloggers. Once there is enough blogs
gathered on this one, we could of course enhance the process.
The choice for posting in the two languages was for less fragmentation,
but as it's not appropriate, let's have a dedicated planet for people
like me who wants to blog in whatever language, even if we touch a
smaller part of the community. If you read the comments on my blog, here
for example, language is not an issue when it's said ;)
http://sophiegautier.com/blog/ecrire/poster.php?post_id=188#c10130
Kind regards
Sophie



I think that what the real issue here is how to present the Planet once 
one lands on it. Do we show all language blogs mixed together or do we 
show an Main EN-official blog with in indexed column of nl blogs in a 
right-hand block.


Quite frankly, I am not sure I would like to land on a Planet where I 
have to search for my particular language blogs FR, EN, ES. I think I 
would be happier if I landed on a Planet where I am presented with an 
official EN blog and where I can browse down a list of nl-blog-links and 
pick out the ones that interest me.


I am not sure if we are going to encourage more blogging from members 
when there is a mixture of blogs on a page where you have to scroll down 
to find your nl-blog. OR would we encourage more blogging if members saw 
active nl-members through weblinks set in the righ-hand block? Would 
they feel more encouraged if they saw their own nl-blogs all in one 
location?


Maybe then a combination of both. A user lands on the Planet, sees the 
EN official blogs and then directed to the main Planet page where all 
nl-blogs are there in mixed form BUT with a right-hand block where, at 
the click of a nl-link, she/he can have the page re-mixed into a page of 
her/his nl-blogs. We could even offer a setting in the user preference 
where this could be either set on/off as a default if the reader 
(registered user) decided to set it according to their taste.


Some people like their vegetables all mixed up together on their plate; 
others like to have their vegetables in identifiable groups. The end 
product is still the same, the meal is still eaten.


Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-03 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Marc,
On 03/12/2012 18:49, Marc Paré wrote:
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> Le 2012-12-02 14:22, Sophie Gautier a écrit :
>>
>> Small feedback from my side about it. When we were on OOo, the NLC did
>> have a multilanguages planet. That was said as is, and nobody never
>> complained about it. We did have a lot of post on several languages.
>> The option we have currently is
>> - to post only in your language and choose to not be mirrored on the
>> planet,
>> - to post in English and be mirrored on the planet, but for sure be not
>> read in your language,
>>  From what I've seen, only one person complained about my post in French
>> on the planet, but several people are able to read French or English and
>> are happy with my post but are not able to post comments in a different
>> language. The later, however, doesn't seems to be an issue.
>> My proposal is with several options:
>> 1- we have a NL planet, appearing in every languages and it will show
>> the diversity of our community on a dedicated channel of communication,
>> but never mixed with the international or official channel,
>> 2- we do not allow anything but English on the planet, but the planet
>> will reflect the English speaking community only
>> 3- we dedicate a TDF planet for official communication, to make sure
>> it's not diluted in a planet in several languages and dedicate a planet
>> to whatever the language
>> 4- we have a allmixed planet in whatever the language and level of
>> communication.
>>
>> My preference goes to 3 and 4.
>>
>> In conclusion, if you want an English only planet, please remove my
>> thread because I'll go on publishing in English and French when I feel
>> the needs :)
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Sophie
>>
> 
> Thanks for all of these suggestions. Here is an additional suggestion
> that I would add:
> 
> 5- Have an official TDF planet for official communication, then have
> planets for all languages (EN included) and make sure there are links
> (right block) to nl planets. The planets will then look equal from the
> visitor's perspective with no particular language being considered more
> important/elevated than the other.
> 
> * EN as the official communications language for the project would be
> maintained.
> 
> * we could try to find members who could "lead" their own particular nl
> planets and get them to promote en encourage content from their own nl
> communities.
> 
> * We could then work towards getting dedicated "planet translator
> members" who would translate article of worth to their own nl language
> planets.
> 
> * this would promote "teamwork" where the EN language barrier would be
> eliminated for the nl planets

It's a good idea, but -you know there is always a but ;-) if you read
the planet, currently this is mostly developers and TDF board members
who are posting on it. So before creating planets for each language,
having one containing all the languages would be enough and may be less
intimidating for non English bloggers. Once there is enough blogs
gathered on this one, we could of course enhance the process.
The choice for posting in the two languages was for less fragmentation,
but as it's not appropriate, let's have a dedicated planet for people
like me who wants to blog in whatever language, even if we touch a
smaller part of the community. If you read the comments on my blog, here
for example, language is not an issue when it's said ;)
http://sophiegautier.com/blog/ecrire/poster.php?post_id=188#c10130
Kind regards
Sophie

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-03 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Sophie,

Le 2012-12-02 14:22, Sophie Gautier a écrit :


Small feedback from my side about it. When we were on OOo, the NLC did
have a multilanguages planet. That was said as is, and nobody never
complained about it. We did have a lot of post on several languages.
The option we have currently is
- to post only in your language and choose to not be mirrored on the
planet,
- to post in English and be mirrored on the planet, but for sure be not
read in your language,
 From what I've seen, only one person complained about my post in French
on the planet, but several people are able to read French or English and
are happy with my post but are not able to post comments in a different
language. The later, however, doesn't seems to be an issue.
My proposal is with several options:
1- we have a NL planet, appearing in every languages and it will show
the diversity of our community on a dedicated channel of communication,
but never mixed with the international or official channel,
2- we do not allow anything but English on the planet, but the planet
will reflect the English speaking community only
3- we dedicate a TDF planet for official communication, to make sure
it's not diluted in a planet in several languages and dedicate a planet
to whatever the language
4- we have a allmixed planet in whatever the language and level of
communication.

My preference goes to 3 and 4.

In conclusion, if you want an English only planet, please remove my
thread because I'll go on publishing in English and French when I feel
the needs :)

Kind regards
Sophie



Thanks for all of these suggestions. Here is an additional suggestion 
that I would add:


5- Have an official TDF planet for official communication, then have 
planets for all languages (EN included) and make sure there are links 
(right block) to nl planets. The planets will then look equal from the 
visitor's perspective with no particular language being considered more 
important/elevated than the other.


* EN as the official communications language for the project would be 
maintained.


* we could try to find members who could "lead" their own particular nl 
planets and get them to promote en encourage content from their own nl 
communities.


* We could then work towards getting dedicated "planet translator 
members" who would translate article of worth to their own nl language 
planets.


* this would promote "teamwork" where the EN language barrier would be 
eliminated for the nl planets


Cheers,

Marc


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[libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-03 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2012-12-03 06:07, Thorsten Behrens a écrit :

Florian Effenberger wrote:

My personal feeling is that it should be English only, but then,
that's just my personal feeling and no vetoe in any way.


That's at least what we historically did here - there's a number of
personal blogs in the planet that _only_ have their
English/LibreOffice feed subscribed, leaving native lang and/or
private topics out.

As a personal note, I think that flies well with our overal site
organisation, which has generic content in English, and then
excellent native lang subsites, again with consistent language. With
that, my preference would be separate native lang planets.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


+1

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-02 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2012-12-02 12:30, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :

Yes, something like that.

Best,
Charles.


Le Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:30:17 -0200,
Olivier Hallot  a écrit :


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>  Regards


+1

Yes. If the nl groups have their own planets, they can then have the 
same setup. Not only that, but they can also aggregate blogs in their 
own native language and add them to their left side listings.


Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-02 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
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Yes, something like that.

Best,
Charles.


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> Em 02-12-2012 10:19, Charles-H. Schulz escreveu:
> > Or we just ask the Native-Language projects to come up with their
> > own planets that we will list on the side of the English one?
> > 
> > Best,
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-02 Thread Olivier Hallot
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Interesting... +1

On the left, blogs aggregated... on the right, NL blogs?

Regards

Em 02-12-2012 10:19, Charles-H. Schulz escreveu:
> Or we just ask the Native-Language projects to come up with their own
> planets that we will list on the side of the English one?
> 
> Best,

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-02 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le dimanche 02 décembre 2012 à 06:47 -0500, Marc Paré a écrit :
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Le 2012-12-01 09:48, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
> > I am not vetoing, this was just my personal opinion, so if there's
> > positive feedback towards a multilanguagl Planet, why not?
> >
> > Florian
> 
> English only please.
> 
> I don't think we would gain many new readers to our blog if it were in 
> many languages. If we are so concerned with getting the word out for all 
> languages, then we should try to find ways to translate some/part/all of 
> non-EN texts.
> 
> We can certainly help matters out by providing easy-to-find links to 
> non-EN blog sites. Then these sites are only a click away.


Or we just ask the Native-Language projects to come up with their own
planets that we will list on the side of the English one?

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Addition of a blog in TDF planet

2012-12-02 Thread Marc Paré

Hi everyone,

Le 2012-12-01 09:48, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

I am not vetoing, this was just my personal opinion, so if there's
positive feedback towards a multilanguagl Planet, why not?

Florian


English only please.

I don't think we would gain many new readers to our blog if it were in 
many languages. If we are so concerned with getting the word out for all 
languages, then we should try to find ways to translate some/part/all of 
non-EN texts.


We can certainly help matters out by providing easy-to-find links to 
non-EN blog sites. Then these sites are only a click away.


Cheers,

Marc

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