[libreoffice-website] Re: Links to Extensions
Le 14/05/11 00:03, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : Hi Andrea, Andreas appropriately described the current version as very alpha: this site (at this stage; I'm sure it will get better!) is definitely not comparable to Thorsten Bosbach's new sites at OOo, and not even to Michael Wheatland's prototypes from months ago. The chosen technology does not allow me to give any useful feedback before the site enters RC stage, but once it is in RC I'll try and upload my extensions there and provide feedback. Just don't forget to announce on this list when it enters RC, and congratulations to Andreas for the effort! The biggest issue I had/have with the newlook OOo extensions site (apart from it being unavailable most of the time) is the fact there appears to be no where to download all of the extensions, or templates, say for a given locale, in one bundle. It was particularly frustrating for the templates section of that site. I sincerely hope that we will be able to offer a grouped download functionality (one massive zip file) in addition to individual downloads. Just my 2c. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Links to Extensions
On 12/05/2011 Sophie Gautier wrote: On 12/05/2011 01:32, Andrea Pescetti wrote: I kind of expected that a new site development would have been announced here. it seems that it's just what Andreas did ;) Consider it like Litmus, we test the tool, try some dev on it to make sure it's the one that will satisfy our needs, a rough dev is first done and then presented to the community to see if everything is ok. OK, this is an understandable choice. Managing Extensions and Templates can be a bit more difficult than what one expects, so the just do it approach might not be the best, but it is surely acceptable and it indeed avoids discussion. So now that Andreas has announce it, please, don't hesitate to test and give your feedback. Andreas appropriately described the current version as very alpha: this site (at this stage; I'm sure it will get better!) is definitely not comparable to Thorsten Bosbach's new sites at OOo, and not even to Michael Wheatland's prototypes from months ago. The chosen technology does not allow me to give any useful feedback before the site enters RC stage, but once it is in RC I'll try and upload my extensions there and provide feedback. Just don't forget to announce on this list when it enters RC, and congratulations to Andreas for the effort! Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Links to Extensions
Hi Sophie, Andrea, Italo, *, Am Donnerstag, 12. Mai 2011, 06:44:52 schrieb Sophie Gautier: Hi Andrea, On 12/05/2011 01:32, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Andreas Mantke wrote: I'm working on such an environment for LibreOffice for some weeks in my spare time. I hope to solve some bugs in the product, that I created for this purpose. Ah, surprise! I admit I find it weird that there is a test website in the .libreoffice.org hierarchy active since March or earlier, and a code repository in the official hierarchy active since April, without any notifications to this list. I understand that the Steering Committee must have had their good reasons for this silent development, but I kind of expected that a new site development would have been announced here. it seems that it's just what Andreas did ;) Consider it like Litmus, we test the tool, try some dev on it to make sure it's the one that will satisfy our needs, a rough dev is first done and then presented to the community to see if everything is ok. Coming with nothing imho always lead to a lot of discussions without clearing or hurrying the implementation. thanks Sophie for jumping in. That was my thought. Honestly I still like Thorsten Bosbach's new port of the existing Templates/Extensions infrastructure more (and I wrote months ago that I don't see the reasons for a dedicated LibreOffice extensions site, but again I understand those who support this idea); you surely deserve to be thanked for the effort, anyway, and I'm looking forward to seeing the final result when the site is publicly announced! So now that Andreas has announce it, please, don't hesitate to test and give your feedback. As he said, he only work on his spare time on it, so it may goes slowly, but if he gets some help, every body will be happy :) That will definetivly help ;-) Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Re: Links to Extensions
Hi Andreas, Le 12/05/11 10:47, Andreas Mantke a écrit : That will definetivly help ;-) Excellent news, thank you !! Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Links to Extensions
Hi, Andrea Pescetti wrote on 2011-05-11 01.19: The Extensions server is not owned or operated by Oracle, but by the Oregon State University Open Source Lab. At least, it used to be this way and I have no indications that this has changed. indeed, OSUOSL, as they are abbreviated, is the provider for these services. I don't know the legal details (which entity actually contracted them), but I know that at least in parts also community funding has been used to have the sites hosted there -- for example, in 2009, when Christian and I have been budget authorizers for the OOo infrastructure budget, we unanimously have supported this. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Links to Extensions
Andreas Mantke wrote: I'm working on such an environment for LibreOffice for some weeks in my spare time. I hope to solve some bugs in the product, that I created for this purpose. Ah, surprise! I admit I find it weird that there is a test website in the .libreoffice.org hierarchy active since March or earlier, and a code repository in the official hierarchy active since April, without any notifications to this list. I understand that the Steering Committee must have had their good reasons for this silent development, but I kind of expected that a new site development would have been announced here. Honestly I still like Thorsten Bosbach's new port of the existing Templates/Extensions infrastructure more (and I wrote months ago that I don't see the reasons for a dedicated LibreOffice extensions site, but again I understand those who support this idea); you surely deserve to be thanked for the effort, anyway, and I'm looking forward to seeing the final result when the site is publicly announced! Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Links to Extensions
On 5/12/11 12:32 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Ah, surprise! I admit I find it weird that there is a test website in the .libreoffice.org hierarchy active since March or earlier, and a code repository in the official hierarchy active since April, without any notifications to this list. I understand that the Steering Committee must have had their good reasons for this silent development, but I kind of expected that a new site development would have been announced here. I was not aware of the test website, as - I suppose - many other members of the Steering Committee. I don't think there is any reason to hide such a development, and I don't see why it shouldn't be discussed on the website mailing list, provided that the website respects our policy of promoting free software extensions. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Links to Extensions
Hi Andrea, On 12/05/2011 01:32, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Andreas Mantke wrote: I'm working on such an environment for LibreOffice for some weeks in my spare time. I hope to solve some bugs in the product, that I created for this purpose. Ah, surprise! I admit I find it weird that there is a test website in the .libreoffice.org hierarchy active since March or earlier, and a code repository in the official hierarchy active since April, without any notifications to this list. I understand that the Steering Committee must have had their good reasons for this silent development, but I kind of expected that a new site development would have been announced here. it seems that it's just what Andreas did ;) Consider it like Litmus, we test the tool, try some dev on it to make sure it's the one that will satisfy our needs, a rough dev is first done and then presented to the community to see if everything is ok. Coming with nothing imho always lead to a lot of discussions without clearing or hurrying the implementation. Honestly I still like Thorsten Bosbach's new port of the existing Templates/Extensions infrastructure more (and I wrote months ago that I don't see the reasons for a dedicated LibreOffice extensions site, but again I understand those who support this idea); you surely deserve to be thanked for the effort, anyway, and I'm looking forward to seeing the final result when the site is publicly announced! So now that Andreas has announce it, please, don't hesitate to test and give your feedback. As he said, he only work on his spare time on it, so it may goes slowly, but if he gets some help, every body will be happy :) Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Links to Extensions
Hi Alex, Alexander Thurgood wrote (10-05-11 11:24) Both you, I, and everyone else here know that given the current climate of uncertainty relating to the opening by Oracle of OOo to _a_ Community run project, leaving users looking for extensions to their own devices, or as we say more colloquially in the lurch is not the solution. Are our resources so constrained that we can not, could not, provide such an infrastructure ourselves ? Maybe, but I would suggest to wait a bit longer until we know how/what Oracle wants to transfer to what community. Doing a lot of work the next weeks, and maybe finding out shortly that it has been (partly) waste of time, does not sound attractive to me. Regards, Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Links to Extensions
Alexander Thurgood wrote: USERS BEWARE : the extensions site appears to be currently suffering from availability issues, etc, this does not actually solve the underlying problem. A quick whois tells me that the servers are registered to Sun (no surprise there), so we remain dependent on the goodwill of an Oracle (Sun) controlled server to be able to continue to access extensions. The Extensions server is not owned or operated by Oracle, but by the Oregon State University Open Source Lab. At least, it used to be this way and I have no indications that this has changed. I don't exactly know what kind of whois you ran, but $ host extensions.services.openoffice.org extensions.services.openoffice.org is an alias for oooapps.osuosl.org. oooapps.osuosl.org has address 140.211.166.72 Are our resources so constrained that we can not, could not, provide such an infrastructure ourselves ? Thorsten Bosbach from Oracle made a huge effort to port the Templates and Extensions websites to Drupal 6 (they currently run the obsolete and not so scalable Drupal 5), see http://openoffice.org/projects/extensions/lists/websites/archive/2011-04/message/2 Originally, these were scheduled to replace the Drupal 5 sites this month; I don't know when and if this will actually happen, but this would be the way to go. Regards, Andrea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
