Re: [libreoffice-website] Some of more feedback for the new main homepage
Hi Camille, all, On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 14:05 +0100, Camille Moulin wrote: While I visited the page again, I noticed two more things btw: * clicking Discover it breaks the back button in Firefox (big no) Hum, indeed :-( Thanks for fixing – works for me now (on vm13). Haven't checked on Windows machines, I am personally using OpenSuse with freetype-infinality and hinting setting none... I've attached part of a screenshot, hope the list lets this through. If you can see it, you'll notice the RE and the C, as well as the OW seem to jump around quite a bit. Yep, I see. So you would recommand just removing the effect? Kind of. Maybe I am just too sensitive, though. I've tried it in Windows 8 now – it looks really good in Metro-mode IE, but not quite as good (jagged edges) in desktop browsers (I tried Firefox and Chrome and would suspect that desktop IE would render the same as those two [1]). Of course, just removing the effect doesn't quite cut it, I guess, since the button is an eye-catcher with it, but not quite as much without it. Not sure how to remedy this, maybe a thicker bevel around it it or so? Regards, Astron. [1] Desktop mode generally seems to still use ClearType, while Metro mode uses something else that is less tuned for small texts, but seemingly more forgiving to fonts it doesn't know. Also, Metro-mode text does not appear to be subpixel-rendered. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Some of more feedback for the new main homepage
Le 18/02/2013 20:34, Stefan Knorr a écrit : Hi Camille, Robinson, all, #1 Add outline: none; and some :hover/:active effect to the CSS of the ‹ and › buttons – the first one to remove the ugly whole-page outline around the right button, e.g. in Firefox; the second to overcome the accessibility/visibility bug we just created. This should be fixed by now ; see : http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130213/ Ah, good. And without creating usability problems #2 Make the page sliding animation faster – slow animations draw attention to themselves, fast ones help the user navigate. I think the animation is still in the first group. Which settings would you recommend? Hm, my knowledge of JS debug tools is rather cursory ... so I couldn't try it in-browser, but maybe somewhere between 400 and 600ms would be better than a whole second..? Ok, i'll test. While I visited the page again, I noticed two more things btw: * clicking Discover it breaks the back button in Firefox (big no) Hum, indeed :-( * the slides carousel never stops – which is slightly annoying, it would seem better to me if it stopped after getting back to the first slide (just personal opinion) We'll see once we have solved the previous point ;-) #3 Use a non-condensed font, e.g. regular Open Sans. The current font is pretty hard to read, especially on the Discover it page. That would impact significantly the layout. I'll have a more precise look into it. Not sure, but since some slides's text cuts into the download button on smaller screens even now, maybe you'll have to adjust font size either way. Ok, I'll test also. Do you have a rough estimate of proportion / types of config where it's ugly ? Looks rather ok on all the ones I checked (including Windows machines) Haven't checked on Windows machines, I am personally using OpenSuse with freetype-infinality and hinting setting none... I've attached part of a screenshot, hope the list lets this through. If you can see it, you'll notice the RE and the C, as well as the OW seem to jump around quite a bit. Yep, I see. So you would recommand just removing the effect? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Some of more feedback for the new main homepage
Hi Camille, Robinson, all, #1 Add outline: none; and some :hover/:active effect to the CSS of the ‹ and › buttons – the first one to remove the ugly whole-page outline around the right button, e.g. in Firefox; the second to overcome the accessibility/visibility bug we just created. This should be fixed by now ; see : http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130213/ Ah, good. And without creating usability problems #2 Make the page sliding animation faster – slow animations draw attention to themselves, fast ones help the user navigate. I think the animation is still in the first group. Which settings would you recommend? Hm, my knowledge of JS debug tools is rather cursory ... so I couldn't try it in-browser, but maybe somewhere between 400 and 600ms would be better than a whole second..? While I visited the page again, I noticed two more things btw: * clicking Discover it breaks the back button in Firefox (big no) * the slides carousel never stops – which is slightly annoying, it would seem better to me if it stopped after getting back to the first slide (just personal opinion) #3 Use a non-condensed font, e.g. regular Open Sans. The current font is pretty hard to read, especially on the Discover it page. That would impact significantly the layout. I'll have a more precise look into it. Not sure, but since some slides's text cuts into the download button on smaller screens even now, maybe you'll have to adjust font size either way. Do you have a rough estimate of proportion / types of config where it's ugly ? Looks rather ok on all the ones I checked (including Windows machines) Haven't checked on Windows machines, I am personally using OpenSuse with freetype-infinality and hinting setting none... I've attached part of a screenshot, hope the list lets this through. If you can see it, you'll notice the RE and the C, as well as the OW seem to jump around quite a bit. Thanks for listening :), Astron. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Some of more feedback for the new main homepage
Hi Stefan, * Le 14/02/2013 18:46, Stefan Knorr a écrit : [...] #1 Add outline: none; and some :hover/:active effect to the CSS of the ‹ and › buttons – the first one to remove the ugly whole-page outline around the right button, e.g. in Firefox; the second to overcome the accessibility/visibility bug we just created. This should be fixed by now ; see : http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130213/ #2 Make the page sliding animation faster – slow animations draw attention to themselves, fast ones help the user navigate. I think the animation is still in the first group. Which settings would you recommend? #3 Use a non-condensed font, e.g. regular Open Sans. The current font is pretty hard to read, especially on the Discover it page. That would impact significantly the layout. I'll have a more precise look into it. #4 Don't rotate the Download LibreOffice now! text – it's a nice effect, but most people's font rendering/screens are terrible at displaying it. Do you have a rough estimate of proportion / types of config where it's ugly ? Looks rather ok on all the ones I checked (including Windows machines) Cheers, Camille -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Some of more feedback for the new main homepage
Hi Camille, * Am 15.02.2013 14:14, schrieb Camille Moulin: #4 Don't rotate the Download LibreOffice now! text – it's a nice effect, but most people's font rendering/screens are terrible at displaying it. Do you have a rough estimate of proportion / types of config where it's ugly ? Looks rather ok on all the ones I checked (including Windows machines) e.g. Win7-64, Intel i5, 8G ram, ATI Radeon Mobility HD 5650 - see screenshot fonts expand on slide and collapse on halt besides they look squeezed and typography is corrupted between O + FF at least, Cheers Erich -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Some of more feedback for the new main homepage
Hi all, I have somewhat mixed feelings about the new libreoffice.org homepage ... but I don't want to go into any of that too much, as I didn't work on it at all and the new page is a marked improvement over the old one. Instead, I'd like to ask for a few small things that should be easy remedy: #1 Add outline: none; and some :hover/:active effect to the CSS of the ‹ and › buttons – the first one to remove the ugly whole-page outline around the right button, e.g. in Firefox; the second to overcome the accessibility/visibility bug we just created. #2 Make the page sliding animation faster – slow animations draw attention to themselves, fast ones help the user navigate. I think the animation is still in the first group. #3 Use a non-condensed font, e.g. regular Open Sans. The current font is pretty hard to read, especially on the Discover it page. #4 Don't rotate the Download LibreOffice now! text – it's a nice effect, but most people's font rendering/screens are terrible at displaying it. Thanks, Astron. (Please keep me in CC if you reply, I am not on this list.) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Some of more feedback for the new main homepage
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Stefan Knorr heinzless...@gmail.com wrote: #4 Don't rotate the Download LibreOffice now! text – it's a nice effect, but most people's font rendering/screens are terrible at displaying it. Hmm, now that you mention it, I do notice that the BR and OFF aren't lining up on the top. If I zoom-in the page a bunch, it looks a lot better :-) (U12.04.2+FF18.0.2) --R -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
