Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-21 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Michael!

Am Freitag, den 17.12.2010, 03:55 +0930 schrieb Michael Wheatland:
 Again, thanks for all of the patience and constructive criticism with
 regard to this project. It reinforces the fact that we are on the
 right path, although bumpy, with a lot more consulting and
 collaboration we will have the best possible outcome for our
 blossoming community.

Thanks a lot for this statement - and your ongoing and incredible effort
to make this happen! :-)

 Michael Wheatland 

Cheers,
Christoph


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi all,
On 12/12/2010 11:47, Stefan Weigel wrote:

Hi Marc,

Am 12.12.2010 08:51, schrieb Marc Paré:


I am just going by what was declared by the SC starting here:

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.website/592

These are self-explanatory.



Well:

quote
during our yesterday's call, the CMS decision was taken: it will be
Silverstripe as a starter, with plans to migrate to Drupal later on.
/quote

To me, plans to migrate to Drupal later on does not necessarily
mean, that there actually will be a migration to Drupal.

And, the SCM minutes clearly read:

quote
suggestion is that the website team should do some more planning,
what we need regarding website, additional services, and see how
this can be achieved with drupal. We see the need of a more
sophisticated CMS in the future.
/quote

To me, this means, that there has to be further evaluation and an
that migrating to drupal depends on a future decision by the SC.

Pse, don´t get me wrong: I am *not* against Drupal. But we should
recognize, what has been decided yet and what not.


Yes agreed, and if at the end of the day, Silverstripe does answer all 
our needs, I don't see why we should migrate to something else. BTW, 
currently what we would like is to see all the sites on line ;)


Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Samuel Gómez
A quote: Things grow unstructured.

TDF and LibO are two different although related things growing at
great pace since few weeks ago.

However I think that the structure for contribution is lagging behind for both.

I know that new TDF and LibO websites are ongoing. But I don't know
what really has to be done. Neither I know what has NOT to be done.

I just polished the structure of
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website
and realized that there is an official major confusion between TDF
and LibO websites development.

In the mail list I see few of you with a clear picture of what has to
be done. But what about casual contributors such as me or Narayan. How
can we know what is a priority and what is not without seeking and
reading dozens of messages.

Most importantly: Many more will come and find themselves in the same situation.

I ask the ones with a rather clear top-down vision to do two things:
1.- Don't over use the mail list. Use the wiki to materialize cooled
down knowledge.
2.- Keep the wiki up to date (and structured).
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website can't be up to date when
the URL is meaning TDF website and the first paragraph says Welcome
to the LibreOffice Webpage development wiki

First step: leave http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website for
talking about the TDF website and create
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibO/... for LibreOffice topics.
LibreOffice website would come in
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibO/Website , etc.



On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Le 2010-12-12 03:47, Stefan Weigel a écrit :
 Hi Stefan:



 Well:

 quote
 during our yesterday's call, the CMS decision was taken: it will be
 Silverstripe as a starter, with plans to migrate to Drupal later on.
 /quote

 To me, plans to migrate to Drupal later on does not necessarily
 mean, that there actually will be a migration to Drupal.

 Hmmm, I don't know how more implicit this would be.


 And, the SCM minutes clearly read:

 quote
 suggestion is that the website team should do some more planning,
 what we need regarding website, additional services, and see how
 this can be achieved with drupal. We see the need of a more
 sophisticated CMS in the future.
 /quote

 Yes, this, when taken in context, was a comment on the Drupal team not being
 as organised in the beginning. Most of the Drupal people were busy with
 their employment commitments and had somehow been caught short in presenting
 a sample CMS for the SC. However, the documentation was well presented. You
 would have to read the whole thread to get a feel for it.


 To me, this means, that there has to be further evaluation and an
 that migrating to drupal depends on a future decision by the SC.

 Pse, don´t get me wrong: I am *not* against Drupal. But we should
 recognize, what has been decided yet and what not.

 Stefan


 Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Samuel Gómez
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Le 2010-12-12 08:30, Samuel Gómez a écrit :

 A quote: Things grow unstructured.

 TDF and LibO are two different although related things growing at
 great pace since few weeks ago.

 However I think that the structure for contribution is lagging behind for
 both.

 I know that new TDF and LibO websites are ongoing. But I don't know
 what really has to be done. Neither I know what has NOT to be done.

 I just polished the structure of
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website
 and realized that there is an official major confusion between TDF
 and LibO websites development.

 In the mail list I see few of you with a clear picture of what has to
 be done. But what about casual contributors such as me or Narayan. How
 can we know what is a priority and what is not without seeking and
 reading dozens of messages.

 Most importantly: Many more will come and find themselves in the same
 situation.

 I ask the ones with a rather clear top-down vision to do two things:
 1.- Don't over use the mail list. Use the wiki to materialize cooled
 down knowledge.
 2.- Keep the wiki up to date (and structured).
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website can't be up to date when
 the URL is meaning TDF website and the first paragraph says Welcome
 to the LibreOffice Webpage development wiki

 First step: leave http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website for
 talking about the TDF website and create
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibO/... for LibreOffice topics.
 LibreOffice website would come in
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibO/Website , etc.


 Hi Samuel:

 Many thanks for cleaning up the wiki page. It definitely more readable.


You're welcome.

 For members who would like to contribute, free to join in with the Drupal
 team as we have many areas where LibreOffice members may contribute. You may
 find the signup page here:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Drupal_Strategy.

 Marc
 Drupal Web. Deb. Member


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Marc, all,

just a short comment with regards to a part of your mail that might be 
misunderstood...


Marc Paré schrieb:

[...]

For members who would like to contribute, free to join in with the
Drupal team as we have many areas where LibreOffice members may
contribute.


There are several areas of possible contribution.

Personal opinions on what is necessary may be quite different, so please 
don't think this is the only or most urgent place your contribution is 
needed.


Feel free to ask here on the list, if you're not sure about what tasks 
might fit your skills and interests best.


Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-11 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 12.12.2010 07:16, schrieb Marc Paré:

 There has been a competition and the decision: Silverstripe is the
 interim LibreOffice site until the official Drupal site goes live.

That´s not correct. David reports very well the current status:

http://www.mail-archive.com/documentation@libreoffice.org/msg00528.html

Stefan


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