Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: wiki spam filter

2011-04-28 Thread Nino Novak
Hi,

On Thursday 28 April 2011 15:43, Marc Paré wrote:

 If these problems persist, I, for one, would be agreeable to going
 back to closing down the wiki self account creation and having those
 interested in contributing to the wiki having to request an account
 from some of our admin members.

If it is possible to grant account creation right seprately, this task 
could even be delegated to many non-admin helpers.

(We/you have to think of delegation of simple tasks wherever possible.)

Nino

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: wiki spam filter

2011-04-28 Thread David Nelson
Hi Marc, :-)

Would it help if I gave you admin rights on the wiki?

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: wiki spam filter

2011-04-28 Thread David Nelson
Hi Marc, :-)

OK, well just give a heads-up if you need them.

Not sure what blurb you're talking about...

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: wiki spam filter

2011-04-28 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Marc,
On 28/04/2011 16:43, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 28/04/11 02:59 AM, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hi,

Sophie Gautier wrote on 2011-04-28 06.34:

Just for information, zero spam as of now.


sometimes it's good when nobody can login. :-)
Let's see how the next days will be, if there comes in spam.

Florian



If these problems persist, I, for one, would be agreeable to going back
to closing down the wiki self account creation and having those
interested in contributing to the wiki having to request an account from
some of our admin members.


I prefer spending 15mn every day deleting the spam and blocking the 
accounts than closing the wiki for registration. Wiki, in my eyes,should 
remains a very easy tool to access and work with. Even registration is 
bothering me already. So really my preference would be that we go on as 
today and I'll go on to take of the spam.


Kind regards
Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: wiki spam filter

2011-04-28 Thread David Nelson
Hi Marc, :-)

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 23:18, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 LOL, thanks.

 You may be interested in this thread on the discussion mailist. It may
 involve your participation.

 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/5230

Ah, OK, seen. Well I'll watch the thread and post the snippet into the
page when the discussion reaches a conclusion, if no one else does it
first.

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: wiki spam filter

2011-04-28 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi,

2011/4/28 Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com:

 I prefer spending 15mn every day deleting the spam and blocking the accounts
 than closing the wiki for registration. Wiki, in my eyes,should remains a
 very easy tool to access and work with. Even registration is bothering me
 already. So really my preference would be that we go on as today and I'll go
 on to take of the spam.

I agree with you.

Maybe it looked for others reading this mailthread as we were loaded
with work by this spam.
But it was more a heads up for the others working on that.

Bye

Volker

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: wiki spam filter

2011-04-28 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

 2011/4/28 Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com:

 I prefer spending 15mn every day deleting the spam and blocking the accounts
 than closing the wiki for registration. Wiki, in my eyes,should remains a
 very easy tool to access and work with. Even registration is bothering me
 already. So really my preference would be that we go on as today and I'll go
 on to take of the spam.

@Sophie: Could you maybe briefly explain your workflow for spam
filtering, so that other wiki admins could maybe help out?

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: wiki spam filter

2011-04-28 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier
damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote:
 Marc Paré schrieb:
 Le 28/04/11 02:59 AM, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

 [.. spam ..]

 If these problems persist, I, for one, would be agreeable to going
 back to closing down the wiki self account creation and having those
 interested in contributing to the wiki having to request an account
 from some of our admin members.

 +1

But my understanding is that now spam is under control - you will
never be 100% free of spam with self-registration, because there are
also humans that create accounts that are then later used by bots.

 [closing self-registration and manually create accounts]
 +1

 This would also help to get rid of the captcha plague.

Ah, come on - having to solve a captcha /once/ when registering is not
a plague. If you had to enter it for each and every change, then I
would fully agree, but if it is just when registering...

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: wiki spam filter

2011-04-28 Thread Sophie Gautier

On 28/04/2011 19:56, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 28/04/11 12:00 PM, Volker Merschmann a écrit :

Hi,

2011/4/28 Sophie Gautiergautier.sop...@gmail.com:


I prefer spending 15mn every day deleting the spam and blocking the
accounts
than closing the wiki for registration. Wiki, in my eyes,should
remains a
very easy tool to access and work with. Even registration is
bothering me
already. So really my preference would be that we go on as today and
I'll go
on to take of the spam.


I agree with you.

Maybe it looked for others reading this mailthread as we were loaded
with work by this spam.
But it was more a heads up for the others working on that.

Bye

Volker



Yes, the impression that I am getting is that people who are more of
value to the project (Sophie, we need you elsewhere rather than just
policing the wiki and the same for all of the other experienced leads
and especially SC members doing the spam policing) are, sadly, using
their valuable time on these issues.


Thanks for the kind words Marc, but as I said, it's very little time to 
give to it, so really not a big burden. I said 15mn, but I'm sure it's 
more between 5 and 10 mn. And zero now that there is no more.




Maybe we should have a sub-group with proper wiki permissions taking up
the spam deletions? Unless the spam issues require special consideration
from the more experienced membership, maybe we should consider
delegating to other members?


any admin member can delete a page and we have several admins on the 
wiki yet.


Kind regards
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