Re: Transifex Website translation info are wrong, keep translating !
2010/10/28 Elad :
> If we do update before the release, i think we should use
> ${Markup(_('Fedora %s Desktop Edition') % '13')} as Pitor suggested,
> it will save extra work for translators.
> we just need to get an approval from the translators, they probably
> really annoyed because of the many POT updates we did.
>
You don't need approval for this kind of string change, since it's
already in English on the webpage and updating POT file can't make it
any worse. :) Actually, we have this in our guidelines:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Freezes#What_changes_are_not_affected_by_the_string_freeze.3F
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Re: Transifex Website translation info are wrong, keep translating !
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:31:11PM +0200, Elad wrote:
> 2010/10/28 shaiton :
> > I have thought of that ;)
> > We just wanted the translators to finish their current translations,
> > while updating most important strings only, before marking all others
> > as translatable.
> >
> > +1 for updating before the Release date. (I will be happy to do so,
> > but we need to agree :) )
> >
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I like the idea of updating before the Release.
> If we do update before the release, i think we should use
> ${Markup(_('Fedora %s Desktop Edition') % '13')} as Pitor suggested,
> it will save extra work for translators.
> we just need to get an approval from the translators, they probably
> really annoyed because of the many POT updates we did.
I just can talk by myself, but as translator, i'm most annoyed by
don't getting the last and more prominent news not being translated to
my language, than getting just a bit more work to do.
Jesús Franco
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Re: Transifex Website translation info are wrong, keep translating !
2010/10/28 shaiton :
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Elad wrote:
>> 2010/10/28 Piotr Drąg :
>>> 2010/10/28 Elad :
We are not going to refresh the POT for the Fedora 14 -> Fedora 13
change, because it will only create more work for translators (they
will have to translate it again after GA if we do that).
as discussed in #fedora-websites IRC channel, we are going to update
the POT again after the release of Fedora 14.
>>>
>>> I don't necessarily agree with that decision (there will be English
>>> text on the site for a week), but I can live with it.
>>>
>>> Also these problems could be avoided if we would use markup like this
>>> (found in the actual code):
>>>
>>> ${Markup(_('Fedora %s Desktop Edition') % '13')}
>>>
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>>> http://raven.pmail.pl/
>>>
>> +1
>>
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>
> I have thought of that ;)
> We just wanted the translators to finish their current translations,
> while updating most important strings only, before marking all others
> as translatable.
>
> +1 for updating before the Release date. (I will be happy to do so,
> but we need to agree :) )
>
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If we do update before the release, i think we should use
${Markup(_('Fedora %s Desktop Edition') % '13')} as Pitor suggested,
it will save extra work for translators.
we just need to get an approval from the translators, they probably
really annoyed because of the many POT updates we did.
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Re: Transifex Website translation info are wrong, keep translating !
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Elad wrote:
> 2010/10/28 Piotr Drąg :
>> 2010/10/28 Elad :
>>> We are not going to refresh the POT for the Fedora 14 -> Fedora 13
>>> change, because it will only create more work for translators (they
>>> will have to translate it again after GA if we do that).
>>> as discussed in #fedora-websites IRC channel, we are going to update
>>> the POT again after the release of Fedora 14.
>>>
>>
>> I don't necessarily agree with that decision (there will be English
>> text on the site for a week), but I can live with it.
>>
>> Also these problems could be avoided if we would use markup like this
>> (found in the actual code):
>>
>> ${Markup(_('Fedora %s Desktop Edition') % '13')}
>>
>> --
>> Piotr Drąg
>> http://raven.pmail.pl/
>>
> +1
>
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I have thought of that ;)
We just wanted the translators to finish their current translations,
while updating most important strings only, before marking all others
as translatable.
+1 for updating before the Release date. (I will be happy to do so,
but we need to agree :) )
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Re: Transifex Website translation info are wrong, keep translating !
2010/10/28 Piotr Drąg :
> 2010/10/28 Elad :
>> We are not going to refresh the POT for the Fedora 14 -> Fedora 13
>> change, because it will only create more work for translators (they
>> will have to translate it again after GA if we do that).
>> as discussed in #fedora-websites IRC channel, we are going to update
>> the POT again after the release of Fedora 14.
>>
>
> I don't necessarily agree with that decision (there will be English
> text on the site for a week), but I can live with it.
>
> Also these problems could be avoided if we would use markup like this
> (found in the actual code):
>
> ${Markup(_('Fedora %s Desktop Edition') % '13')}
>
> --
> Piotr Drąg
> http://raven.pmail.pl/
>
+1
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Re: Transifex Website translation info are wrong, keep translating !
2010/10/28 Elad :
> We are not going to refresh the POT for the Fedora 14 -> Fedora 13
> change, because it will only create more work for translators (they
> will have to translate it again after GA if we do that).
> as discussed in #fedora-websites IRC channel, we are going to update
> the POT again after the release of Fedora 14.
>
I don't necessarily agree with that decision (there will be English
text on the site for a week), but I can live with it.
Also these problems could be avoided if we would use markup like this
(found in the actual code):
${Markup(_('Fedora %s Desktop Edition') % '13')}
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Re: Transifex Website translation info are wrong, keep translating !
2010/10/28 Piotr Drąg : > 2010/10/28 Thomas Canniot : >> Juste a general warning abour wrong stats in Transifex for Fedora >> Websites » master-fedoraproject >> >> At the moment, it displays 685 entries in the pot file. HOWEVER, there >> are 697 entries... don't think the work is done yet :) >> > > I have manually refreshed Transifex cache and it seems like there are > 685 strings in current POT file. > > The POT file needs update, but that's another issue. Websites team, > could you please refresh POT/PO files after every change in original > strings? If you don't do that regularly, English text appears on the > webpage which we cannot translate. > > Thanks, > > -- > Piotr Drąg > http://raven.pmail.pl/ > -- > websites mailing list > websites@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites We are not going to refresh the POT for the Fedora 14 -> Fedora 13 change, because it will only create more work for translators (they will have to translate it again after GA if we do that). as discussed in #fedora-websites IRC channel, we are going to update the POT again after the release of Fedora 14. -- -Elad. -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Transifex Website translation info are wrong, keep translating !
2010/10/28 Thomas Canniot : > Juste a general warning abour wrong stats in Transifex for Fedora > Websites » master-fedoraproject > > At the moment, it displays 685 entries in the pot file. HOWEVER, there > are 697 entries... don't think the work is done yet :) > I have manually refreshed Transifex cache and it seems like there are 685 strings in current POT file. The POT file needs update, but that's another issue. Websites team, could you please refresh POT/PO files after every change in original strings? If you don't do that regularly, English text appears on the webpage which we cannot translate. Thanks, -- Piotr Drąg http://raven.pmail.pl/ -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
