Re: 1.11 Release Date: 15 Sept

2007-07-12 Thread Noèl Köthe
Am Mittwoch, den 11.07.2007, 20:30 -0700 schrieb Micah Cowan:

Hello Micah,

 That having been said, the plan is to have 1.11 release no later than
 the 15th of September, with prereleases on 15 August and 1 Sept.

Just a minor opinion:
A switch to the new GPL v3 is a not so small change and like samba
(3.0.x - 3.2) would imho be a good reason for wget 1.2 so everybody
sees something bigger changed.

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--delete-after and --spider should not create (and leave) directories

2007-07-12 Thread Josh Williams

It has come to my attention that --delete-after and --spider leave
empty directories when they have finished. IMHO, we should force
--no-directories since we're not leaving any of the files we're
downloading.

I have submitted a patch here - https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?20466

Do any of you have any objections to this change?


RE: 1.11 Release Date: 15 Sept

2007-07-12 Thread Tony Lewis
Noèl Köthe wrote:

 A switch to the new GPL v3 is a not so small change and like samba
 (3.0.x - 3.2) would imho be a good reason for wget 1.2 so everybody
 sees something bigger changed.

There already was a version 1.2 (although the program was called geturl at that 
time).

The number scheme could probably use a facelift. Perhaps when we transition to 
2.0, we can add a third digit.

Tony



Re: [bug #20323] Wget issues HEAD before GET, even when the file doesn't exist locally.

2007-07-12 Thread Micah Cowan
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Mauro Tortonesi wrote:
 Micah Cowan ha scritto:
 Update of bug #20323 (project wget):

   Status:  Ready For Test = In
 Progress   
 ___

 Follow-up Comment #3:

 Moving back to In Progress until some questions about the logic are
 answered:

 http://addictivecode.org/pipermail/wget-notify/2007-July/75.html
 http://addictivecode.org/pipermail/wget-notify/2007-July/77.html
 
 thanks micah.
 
 i have partly misunderstood the logic behind preliminary HEAD request.
 in my code, HEAD is skipped if -O or --no-content-disposition are given,
 but if -N is given HEAD is always sent. this is wrong, as HEAD should be
 skipped even if -N and --no-content-disposition are given (no need to
 care about the deprecated -N -O combination). can't think of any other
 case in which HEAD should be skipped, though.

Cc'ing wget ML, as it's probably important to open up discussion of the
current logic.

What about the case when nothing is given on the command line except
- --no-content-disposition? What do we need HEAD for then?

Also: I don't believe HEAD should be sent if no options are given on the
command line. What purpose would that serve? If it's to find a possible
Content-Disposition header, we can get that (and more reliably) at GET
time (though, I believe we may currently be requiring the file name
before we fetch, which if true, should definitely be changed but not for
1.11, in which case the HEAD will be allowed for the time being); and
since we're not matching against potential accept/reject lists, we don't
really need it.

I think it really makes much more sense to enumerate those few cases
where we need to issue a HEAD, rather than try to determine all the
cases where we don't: if I have to choose a side to err on, I'd rather
not send HEAD in a case or two where we needed it, rather than send it
in a few where we didn't, as any request-response cycle eats up time. I
also believe that the cases where we want a HEAD are/should be fewer
than the cases where we don't want them.

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[SUPPORT #32008]: I have fuond ap age

2007-07-12 Thread Admiral Markets
Bug-wget,
Ваш запрос принят и один из операторов просмотрит его и соответственно ответит. 
Ниже приведена информация относительно вашего запроса. Пожалуйста, при 
дальнейшей переписке не изменяйте идентификатор запроса в теме сообщения.

Ticket ID: 32008
Тема: I have fuond ap age
Department: Technical support (EN)
Priority: Medium
Status: Open

Вы можете проверить состояние запроса или ответить на этот запрос в онлайне 
здесь: 
http://www.forextrade.ru/support/index.php?_m=tickets_a=viewticketticketid=32008
Пожалуйста, свяжитесь с нами если мы можем помочь вам еще каким-нибудь образом,

Admiral Markets



Re: 1.11 Release Date: 15 Sept

2007-07-12 Thread Micah Cowan
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Tony Lewis wrote:
 Noèl Köthe wrote:
 
 A switch to the new GPL v3 is a not so small change and like samba
 (3.0.x - 3.2) would imho be a good reason for wget 1.2 so everybody
 sees something bigger changed.
 
 There already was a version 1.2 (although the program was called geturl at 
 that time).
 
 The number scheme could probably use a facelift. Perhaps when we transition 
 to 2.0, we can add a third digit.
 
 Tony

There seems to be a bit of confusion. For one: we already have a third
digit (when appropriate); cf 1.10.2.

Second, as with many other software projects, especially GNU ones, the
version numbers are _not_ decimal numbers. 1.11 does not follow 1.1, it
follows the most recently released version, 1.10.2, and is pronounced
one dot eleven, not one dot one one. While this is kind of hell for
directory list sorting (1.11 comes before 1.2), it is nevertheless the
way many GNU projects have been numbered (cf automake, for example,
where 1.10 followed 1.9).

The third digit, I believe, is reserved for patch-level changes; i.e.,
ones that don't introduce new features (that is, are bug fixes), and are
fairly small. We could call it 1.11.0, perhaps, but in the past we've
just added the third digit when it's non-zero, and I don't see any
particular reason to change that at this time.

I am definitely open to facelift suggestions to the number scheme. But
the burden of proof, naturally, lies with the arguer for change.

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Micah J. Cowan
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http://micah.cowan.name/

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Re: [SUPPORT #32008]: I have fuond ap age

2007-07-12 Thread Micah Cowan
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Admiral Markets wrote:
 Bug-wget,
 Ваш запрос принят и один из операторов просмотрит его и соответственно 
 ответит. Ниже приведена информация относительно вашего запроса. Пожалуйста, 
 при дальнейшей переписке не изменяйте идентификатор запроса в теме сообщения.
 
   Ticket ID: 32008
   Тема: I have fuond ap age
   Department: Technical support (EN)
   Priority: Medium
   Status: Open
 
 Вы можете проверить состояние запроса или ответить на этот запрос в онлайне 
 здесь: 
 http://www.forextrade.ru/support/index.php?_m=tickets_a=viewticketticketid=32008
 Пожалуйста, свяжитесь с нами если мы можем помочь вам еще каким-нибудь 
 образом,
 
 Admiral Markets

Hi, and thanks for bringing this issue to our attention.

However, this is an English-language list, and we'd very much appreciate
it if you could provide information about the problem in English, as
otherwise, our ability to help you will be severely limited.

Thanks!
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Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer...
http://micah.cowan.name/

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Re: [wget-notify] [bug #20466] --delete-after and --spider should not create (and leave) directories

2007-07-12 Thread Micah Cowan
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Joshua David Williams wrote:
 URL:
   http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?20466

...

 Details:
 
 This patch forces the --no-directories option if we're not actually keeping
 the files we're downloading (as in the --delete-after and --spider options).
 This way, we don't leave a mess of empty directories.

This seems like a reasonable idea, but I'd like to get some discussion
on it first.

The downside, of course, is that there's no short option to reverse the
implied -nd; they'll have to use --directories (at the time I was
discussing it with Josh, I'd been thinking -e would be needed, but this
seems to be untrue).

It seems to me that by far the most common intention would be not to
leave any files around; this behavior seems fairly reason to me. Thoughts?

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Micah J. Cowan
Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer...
http://micah.cowan.name/

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