RE: Newbie needs to start wget in background
Title: Message Hi again, and thank you very much for your help with my little problem. I have succeeded in making wget run in the background using WinCron. nnCron actually looked pretty sweet, but WinCron was free, and I work for cheapskates ;) I installed WinCron normally, and then as a service (per their docs), and wrote a job that called wget from the command line at regular intervals to retrieve updates to our files. WinCron jobs can be started with service start/restart, and they can be passed a switch to suppresses the console window when spawning a new process. Everything runs in the background. No console window ever appears. Problem solved. Thanks again, Mike -Original Message- From: Mathias Wittwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:38 PM To: 'Herold Heiko'; 'Mike Andersen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Newbie needs to start wget in background www.nncron.ru gives you the possiblity to run any program as a service. that will help solving your issue! US 29.95 for license -Original Message- From: Herold Heiko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 5:40 a.m. To: 'Mike Andersen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Newbie needs to start wget in background This is not a wget problem. Your task scheduler runs wget in foreground, over any console application (the movie) you are running currently. THEN wget immedeatly correctly puts itself in background, the window closes and your previous topmost application (the movie) is topmost again (although possibly without keyboard/mouse input focus!). You need to investigate how to run wget in a different way. With the old scheduler (windows NT 4) you could configure the service accordingly, I don't know the impact of that on the IE5.5/W2K/XP Task Scheduler (which replaced the previous scheduler). Heiko -- -- PREVINET S.p.A. www.previnet.it -- Heiko Herold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +39-041-5907073 ph -- +39-041-5907472 fax -Original Message- From: Mike Andersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Newbie needs to start wget in background Hi, Can anyone on the list tell me how to have wget start and run entirely in the background on Windows XP, so no console window ever opens, not even briefly. I would like to use wget for automatically updating files on windows XP client machines, however it needs to be completely invisible to the user. The client machines will be playing small movies, which will update from time to time, and wget seems like a natural solution to have the client machines pull down their own updates. My strategy so far has been to use Windows Task Scheduler and schedule at regular intervals a command line call to wget, like this: C:\WINDOWS\wget.exe -b -q -m -np -nH -nd -l 1 -Pc:/test http://www.mydomain.com/movies/ As you can see, I'm using the -b (background) and -q (quiet) options, and this *almost* works. A windows console appears for just a fraction of a second, but it appears on top of the movie and I know my client will not accept that. I even tried putting the on the end of the command, but no dice. I've also tried using the -o option, but that didn't help either. I've looked through the list and noticed a thread or two about making wget run completely in the background, but this appears to involve patching wget, and I'm not sure if it works in windows, and I doubt I have the know-how to patch the application it correctly. And that's assuming that a version of wget that runs entirely in the background does actually exist. I'd really appreciate it if anyone on the list could help me out with this. I'm not subscribed to the list, so please copy me in your responses: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Many Thanks, Mike
RE: Newbie needs to start wget in background
This is not a wget problem. Your task scheduler runs wget in foreground, over any console application (the movie) you are running currently. THEN wget immedeatly correctly puts itself in background, the window closes and your previous topmost application (the movie) is topmost again (although possibly without keyboard/mouse input focus!). You need to investigate how to run wget in a different way. With the old scheduler (windows NT 4) you could configure the service accordingly, I don't know the impact of that on the IE5.5/W2K/XP Task Scheduler (which replaced the previous scheduler). Heiko PREVINET S.p.A. www.previnet.it-- Heiko Herold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- +39-041-5907073 ph-- +39-041-5907472 fax -Original Message-From: Mike Andersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:19 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Newbie needs to start wget in background Hi, Can anyone on the list tell me how to have wget start and run entirely in the background on Windows XP, so no console window ever opens, not even briefly. I would like to use wget for automatically updating files on windows XP client machines, however it needs to be completely invisible to the user. The client machines will be playing small movies, which will update from time to time, and wget seems like a natural solution to have the client machines pull down their own updates. My strategy so far has been to use Windows Task Scheduler and schedule at regular intervals a command line call to wget, like this: C:\WINDOWS\wget.exe -b -q -m -np -nH -nd -l 1 -Pc:/test http://www.mydomain.com/movies/ As you can see, I'm using the -b (background) and -q (quiet) options, and this *almost* works. A windows console appears for just a fraction of a second, but it appears on top of the movie and I know my client will not accept that. I even tried putting the on the end of the command, but no dice. I've also tried using the -o option, but that didn't help either. I've looked through the list and noticed a thread or two about making wget run completely in the background, but this appears to involve patching wget, and I'm not sure if it works in windows, and I doubt I have the know-how to patch the application it correctly. And that's assuming that a version of wget that runs entirely in the background does actually exist. I'd really appreciate it if anyone on the list could help me out with this. I'm not subscribed to the list, so please copy me in your responses: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Many Thanks, Mike
RE: Newbie needs to start wget in background
Title: Message www.nncron.ru gives you the possiblity to run any program as a service. that will help solving your issue! US 29.95 for license -Original Message-From: Herold Heiko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 5:40 a.m.To: 'Mike Andersen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Newbie needs to start wget in background This is not a wget problem. Your task scheduler runs wget in foreground, over any console application (the movie) you are running currently. THEN wget immedeatly correctly puts itself in background, the window closes and your previous topmost application (the movie) is topmost again (although possibly without keyboard/mouse input focus!). You need to investigate how to run wget in a different way. With the old scheduler (windows NT 4) you could configure the service accordingly, I don't know the impact of that on the IE5.5/W2K/XP Task Scheduler (which replaced the previous scheduler). Heiko PREVINET S.p.A. www.previnet.it-- Heiko Herold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- +39-041-5907073 ph-- +39-041-5907472 fax -Original Message-From: Mike Andersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:19 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Newbie needs to start wget in background Hi, Can anyone on the list tell me how to have wget start and run entirely in the background on Windows XP, so no console window ever opens, not even briefly. I would like to use wget for automatically updating files on windows XP client machines, however it needs to be completely invisible to the user. The client machines will be playing small movies, which will update from time to time, and wget seems like a natural solution to have the client machines pull down their own updates. My strategy so far has been to use Windows Task Scheduler and schedule at regular intervals a command line call to wget, like this: C:\WINDOWS\wget.exe -b -q -m -np -nH -nd -l 1 -Pc:/test http://www.mydomain.com/movies/ As you can see, I'm using the -b (background) and -q (quiet) options, and this *almost* works. A windows console appears for just a fraction of a second, but it appears on top of the movie and I know my client will not accept that. I even tried putting the on the end of the command, but no dice. I've also tried using the -o option, but that didn't help either. I've looked through the list and noticed a thread or two about making wget run completely in the background, but this appears to involve patching wget, and I'm not sure if it works in windows, and I doubt I have the know-how to patch the application it correctly. And that's assuming that a version of wget that runs entirely in the background does actually exist. I'd really appreciate it if anyone on the list could help me out with this. I'm not subscribed to the list, so please copy me in your responses: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Many Thanks, Mike
RE: Newbie needs to start wget in background
Title: Message Mathias, thank you very much for getting back to me :) wincron was one option we were considering, nncron sounds like it might be easier to use. I'll check it out and let the list know my results. Thanks again to the list for your help and insight. Mike -Original Message- From: Mathias Wittwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:38 PM To: 'Herold Heiko'; 'Mike Andersen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Newbie needs to start wget in background www.nncron.ru gives you the possiblity to run any program as a service. that will help solving your issue! US 29.95 for license -Original Message- From: Herold Heiko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 5:40 a.m. To: 'Mike Andersen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Newbie needs to start wget in background This is not a wget problem. Your task scheduler runs wget in foreground, over any console application (the movie) you are running currently. THEN wget immedeatly correctly puts itself in background, the window closes and your previous topmost application (the movie) is topmost again (although possibly without keyboard/mouse input focus!). You need to investigate how to run wget in a different way. With the old scheduler (windows NT 4) you could configure the service accordingly, I don't know the impact of that on the IE5.5/W2K/XP Task Scheduler (which replaced the previous scheduler). Heiko -- -- PREVINET S.p.A. www.previnet.it -- Heiko Herold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +39-041-5907073 ph -- +39-041-5907472 fax -Original Message- From: Mike Andersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Newbie needs to start wget in background Hi, Can anyone on the list tell me how to have wget start and run entirely in the background on Windows XP, so no console window ever opens, not even briefly. I would like to use wget for automatically updating files on windows XP client machines, however it needs to be completely invisible to the user. The client machines will be playing small movies, which will update from time to time, and wget seems like a natural solution to have the client machines pull down their own updates. My strategy so far has been to use Windows Task Scheduler and schedule at regular intervals a command line call to wget, like this: C:\WINDOWS\wget.exe -b -q -m -np -nH -nd -l 1 -Pc:/test http://www.mydomain.com/movies/ As you can see, I'm using the -b (background) and -q (quiet) options, and this *almost* works. A windows console appears for just a fraction of a second, but it appears on top of the movie and I know my client will not accept that. I even tried putting the on the end of the command, but no dice. I've also tried using the -o option, but that didn't help either. I've looked through the list and noticed a thread or two about making wget run completely in the background, but this appears to involve patching wget, and I'm not sure if it works in windows, and I doubt I have the know-how to patch the application it correctly. And that's assuming that a version of wget that runs entirely in the background does actually exist. I'd really appreciate it if anyone on the list could help me out with this. I'm not subscribed to the list, so please copy me in your responses: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Many Thanks, Mike
