Hi Micah,
My suggestion would be to choose the option that minimizes the
amount of time and effort required to maintain these lists.
What do you think of using an external tool like
https://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/ListServer or offloading mail to
3rd party apps like http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/index.html or
http://smallbusiness.officelive.com/GetOnline/Domain
Last, I'm curious if any attempts have been made to get http://wget.org
~Madhu.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I'm thinking it may be appropriate at this time to broach the subject of
> a mailing list migration.
>
> In the year that I've been the maintainer for GNU Wget, the mailing list
> at dotsrc.org has gone down twice, for several days at a time, and I'm
> concerned about whether we might expect further such difficulties in the
> future.
>
> When we do have issues, there's a tendency for responses to be a bit
> slow. This is understandable, as dotsrc is a small, volunteer-run
> organization serving the needs of many projects. But it would be nice to
> have more direct control over the service: for instance, to unsubscribe
> people when they have trouble doing so themselves (and, perhaps, to
> ensure that the spam blocker never affects unsubscribe attempts from
> subscribed addresses).
>
> Though it hasn't proven to be a problem yet, I think it would be helpful
> to have unsubscribe or moderation ability, in the event that some
> threads or posters get a little out of hand.
>
> The downsides, of course, will be the temporary pain of moving to a new
> address, the potential to lose some subscribers with the move, and
> moving the current archives over to use the new mailing list.
>
> The ideal upsides would be, more reliable service, and more direct
> control over the subscription list and spam controls.
>
> The two possibilities I can think of, are:
>
> - Set up a new mailing list at addictivecode.org (my VPS, where the
> Wiki and source repos are at). The infrastructure is there already
> (being used for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; there was also a
> wget-committers list for folks with commit access, which is no longer
> used). This has the advantage that the Wget maintainer will have root
> access (so long as it continues to be me ;). The disadvantages are that
> I may not have the time to spend that a dedicated sysadmin might, and
> I'm not sure what kind of uptime I can guarantee, as services tend to
> drop (OOM-killed) when Apache gets hit hard. There are ways around this,
> but I haven't had time to spend on looking seriously at it. So far,
> though, my uptimes have been a bit better than dotsrc's, at least.
>
> - Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the primary mailing list once again, and ask
> the dotsrc folks to forward wget@sunsite.dk there. This has the
> advantage that I will have control over the subscription list and
> various other admin-level things (I hope?), and the GNU admins can
> probably do a better job (maybe?) than either I or the dotsrc folks can,
> at keeping services running smoothly.
>
> What do y'all think?
>
> - --
> Micah J. Cowan
> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer,
> and GNU Wget Project Maintainer.
> http://micah.cowan.name/
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