Re: [whatwg] acronym - Proposal for re-instating

2012-10-15 Thread Karl Dubost 

Le 15 oct. 2012 à 11:40, Willabee Wombat a écrit :
>  the word is spoken.
>  the abbreviation is spelt out, letter by letter.
[…]
>  - Screen readers may make use of them.

simple definition. 
An issue though, (automatic) translation. for example

UN

would have to become in French once translated.

ONU

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Re: [whatwg] acronym - Proposal for re-instating

2012-10-15 Thread Alex Bishop 

On 15/10/2012 16:40, Willabee Wombat wrote:

 the word is spoken.

 the abbreviation is spelt out, letter by letter.


How should the term "EBacc" (pronounced "E-bacc") be marked up?

Alex

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Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 should include a way to create custom page header & footer for printing.

2012-10-15 Thread Ian Hickson 

(Note: please don't cross-post e-mails to multiple mailing lists when one 
of those lists is the WHATWG list, as it tends to result in fractured 
threads that are hard to follow for those not on all the lists.)

On Mon, 15 Oct 2012, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Mircea LUTIC  wrote:
> > HTML 5 should include a way to create custom page header & footer for
> > printing.
> > These should allow to include images
> >
> > I think it should be something like
> > 
> > 
> >   My company softwareThe best software on
> > the  planet
> > 
> > 
> > ...
> 
> This is not an HTML issue, but rather a CSS one.  And luckily, this 
> issue is already addressed: 
> 
> 
> I don't *think* this has been implemented in browsers yet, but it has 
> been in several HTML+CSS-based printing programs, like PrinceXML or 
> WeasyPrint.

As Tab says, this is mostly a CSS issue.

Note that you can create detailed headers/footers in HTML using  
and , which could then be hidden for screen media and placed in a 
margin box for print media using CSS, once CSS supports flowing elements 
into particular boxes. (No idea if this is planned yet.)

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Re: [whatwg] Features for responsive Web design

2012-10-15 Thread Odin Hørthe Omdal 

On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:07:04 +0200, Markus Ernst  wrote:

This is why I'd humbly suggest to put information on the image in  
@srcset rather than info on the device and media. Such as:

 srcset="low.jpg 200w, hi.jpg 400w, huge.jpg 800w"


What about an image gallery, when you have 25 thumbnails on one page?  I'm  
not sure how this will work in cases where you don't want the image to be  
the "max size" your screen can handle.


Even the common case of having an article picture that is not 100% of the  
screen width will be hard to do in a responsive non-fluid way with  
predefined breakpoints.


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Re: [whatwg] acronym - Proposal for re-instating

2012-10-15 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp 
Willabee Wombat  schrieb am Mon, 15 Oct 2012
16:40:11 +0100:

> Please see http://forums.whatwg.org/bb3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5081 for
> the background of my request to have  added to the HTML5
> spec.
> 
> 
> 
> *Summary*
> 
> Without getting into all of the discussions about what is an
> abbreviation and what is an acronym, I would like to propose the
>  element be added to the semantics of HTML5 with a clear
> indication of its semantic use;
> 
> […]

I just found  where it is
suggested to use an abbr element without a title attribute to indicate
that the abbreviation “is unpronouncable as a word”.

 backtracks: “Do not use [abbr] on
initialisms that are spoken letter-by-letter”, “Only use abbr without a
title on initialisms that should be pronounced as written rather than
read out letter-by-letter”.

Is this acceptable?

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Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 should include a way to create custom page header & footer for printing.

2012-10-15 Thread Tab Atkins Jr. 
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Mircea LUTIC  wrote:
> HTML 5 should include a way to create custom page header & footer for
> printing.
> These should allow to include images
>
> I think it should be something like
> 
> 
>   My company softwareThe best software on
> the  planet
> 
> 
> ...

This is not an HTML issue, but rather a CSS one.  And luckily, this
issue is already addressed:


I don't *think* this has been implemented in browsers yet, but it has
been in several HTML+CSS-based printing programs, like PrinceXML or
WeasyPrint.

~TJ