Re: [whatwg] attribute media on script element
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:18:25 +1100, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Filippo Levizzani wrote: Would it be possible to have media attribute in the SCRIPT element? Addmitted vaues would be the same of STYLE element (all, screen, print, handheld ...) This doesn't really work because media queries are supposed to change dynamically. The real solution here is a combination of XBL2 and a new API in the CSSOM-View draft (window.media). Hi Ian, I can see the value in this (but then, I also see the value in media types in styling - something it seems some browser makers are not really interested in), and I agree with David's concern that it can have some pretty costly implications. Can you explain why XBL2 is part of the solution here? It seems you have something in mind that I don't understand yet. thanks Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
Re: [whatwg] attribute media on script element
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:18:25 +1100, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Filippo Levizzani wrote: Would it be possible to have media attribute in the SCRIPT element? Addmitted vaues would be the same of STYLE element (all, screen, print, handheld ...) This doesn't really work because media queries are supposed to change dynamically. The real solution here is a combination of XBL2 and a new API in the CSSOM-View draft (window.media). I can see the value in this (but then, I also see the value in media types in styling - something it seems some browser makers are not really interested in), and I agree with David's concern that it can have some pretty costly implications. I don't really understand what you mean here. How are browser vendors not interested in media types in styling? What has costly implications? What implications? Can you explain why XBL2 is part of the solution here? It seems you have something in mind that I don't understand yet. Media-specific scripting is usually needed for media-specific presentation or widgets. XBL2 is a way to define widgets, and it can be bound in a media-specific way. Thus for instance one could create a set of widgets for different window widths, and they would dynamically be swapped in as the user changed the window size. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
[whatwg] attribute media on script element
Hi, I don't know if the question has already been posted... Would it be possible to have media attribute in the SCRIPT element? Addmitted vaues would be the same of STYLE element (all, screen, print, handheld ...) Personally, I'd really love this feature. Thank you Kind regards Filippo -- Filippo Levizzani filippo (dot) levizzani (at) gmail (dot) com
[whatwg] attribute media on script element
Hi, Would it be possible to have media attribute in the SCRIPT element? Addmitted vaues would be the same of STYLE element (all, screen, print, handheld ...) Thank you Kind regards Filippo
Re: [whatwg] attribute media on script element
On Friday 2008-11-14 11:37 +0100, Filippo Levizzani wrote: Would it be possible to have media attribute in the SCRIPT element? Addmitted vaues would be the same of STYLE element (all, screen, print, handheld ...) I'm not quite sure how this would work, since there are two things that seem incompatible: * scripts are executed during parsing / content model construction * whether a media attribute is true can change over time This seems to imply that we'd have to go un-execute a script, or that we'd have to execute later something that was skipped earlier, even when that no longer makes sense. What was the actual use case you were trying to solve with this attribute? -David -- L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ Mozilla Corporation http://www.mozilla.com/
Re: [whatwg] attribute media on script element
On Friday 2008-11-14 18:53 +0100, Filippo Levizzani wrote: * whether a media attribute is true can change over time but the same applies to style element , I guess Yes, but styles can be applied and unapplied easily. This seems to imply that we'd have to go un-execute a script, or that we'd have to execute later something that was skipped earlier, even when that no longer makes sense. What was the actual use case you were trying to solve with this attribute? For instance, I'd like to call SWFObject function (to replace html content with flash) only if media=screen. Other times there are js funcions that have no sense if a given style sheet has not been applied to the page. Would an API that you call from script that allows you to determine if a given media query matches the default view be sufficient for your needs? That seems like it could be more useful than an attribute that simply prevents scripts from executing, and it avoids introducing similar-looking attributes that actually behave very differently. -David -- L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ Mozilla Corporation http://www.mozilla.com/
Re: [whatwg] attribute media on script element
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Filippo Levizzani wrote: Would it be possible to have media attribute in the SCRIPT element? Addmitted vaues would be the same of STYLE element (all, screen, print, handheld ...) This doesn't really work because media queries are supposed to change dynamically. The real solution here is a combination of XBL2 and a new API in the CSSOM-View draft (window.media). -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
