Re: [whatwg] several messages about content sniffing in HTML

2008-02-29 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon


On 29 Feb 2008, at 16:33, Julian Reschke wrote:


Geoffrey Sneddon wrote:
It seems like the HTTP spec should define how to handle that, but  
the HTTP working group has indicated a desire to not specify  
error handling behaviour, so I guess it's up to us.
IE and Safari use the first one, Firefox and Opera use the last  
one. I guess we'll use the first one.


Isn't the fact that FF and IE disagree here an indication that  
this doesn't need to be specified?
Things aren't specified well enough until I can write an HTTP UA  
that can work in the real world (which, as someone dealing with  
feeds, I can tell you need without question support for content- 
type sniffing) from reading specifications without having to  
reverse-engineer anything.

...


Doesn't seem to apply to this case.

A duplicate Content-Type header response indicates that the response  
is invalid.


And guess what? Users don't like error messages. I want to know how to  
deal with it without having to look elsewhere (from the spec).


Apparently, most browsers accept the response anyway, some of which  
picking the first value, others the second. Both behaviors seem to  
be acceptable to users.


So there's nothing you *need* to reverse engineer in this case.


A page (http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=RSS01mime=XML 
) that I came across recently had:


Content-Type: XML
Content-Type: text/XML

Using the first would break badly. I guess it seems to work because of  
content-type sniffing on an unknown (and invalid) header (or, as many  
feed readers do, totally ignoring it, with the exception of any  
charset parameter). Without content-type sniffing, that HTML 5 now  
allows, you need the last.


But as James says: how do I know that which behaviour I choose doesn't  
matter until I reverse engineer browsers to discover that?



--
Geoffrey Sneddon
http://gsnedders.com/



Re: [whatwg] several messages about content sniffing in HTML

2008-02-29 Thread Boris Zbarsky

Geoffrey Sneddon wrote:

Content-Type: XML
Content-Type: text/XML

Using the first would break badly. I guess it seems to work because of 
content-type sniffing on an unknown (and invalid) header


Or because the header parser uses the first header that actually looks like a 
valid content-type (e.g. contains a '/').  Specifying this _is_ needed.


-Boris