date:20070411

Hi Igor,

 yes it states that, and to a very large degree (more then any other framework)

IIRC, Reasonable Server Faces can do that. They only have the one attribute 
to mark tags. So your statement in braces is false from my point of view. 
But you might be right for other frameworks which introduce a lot of 
additional tags in the templates.

 but what drives this framework are the facts that we set realistic goals and 
 come up with practical solutions. 

What exactly is unrealistic and not practical with pure wicket:id attributes?

 these tags act as barriers/markers, they are not components that you attach 
 to a page. 

They might act as barriers for not being able to use a GUI html editor...

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Igor Vaynberg schrieb:
 yes it states that, and to a very large degree (more then any other 
 framework) we follow it. but what drives this framework are the facts 
 that we set realistic goals and come up with practical solutions. we are 
 not purists. the most practical solution for us is to have these special 
 tags for markup that is very wicket-specific. these tags act as 
 barriers/markers, they are not components that you attach to a page.
 
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[Wicket-user] treetable with table markup

2007-04-11 Thread Andrew Klochkov

Is there an easy way to change wicket treetable markup to table instead
of spans? I need this because html tables can adopt columns widths
according to values and newlines in some columns of our table is
prohibited. Should I write my own component derived from
DefaultAbstractTree, or extend TreeTable and change its markup or smth
else?

And the second question - is it possible to insert rows in a ListView
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Re: [Wicket-user] custom PageMap

2007-04-11 Thread Johan Compagner


what do you mean never expire?
the page itself? (with 1.3 pages do never expire in the default setting)

but if the http session expires then the page will go with it. For this you
can use stateless components (like a stateless link or form)

johan


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Hi,

I have a stateful page that should be kind of bookmarkable. I'd like to
make
this page have certain name in PageMap and never expire. Is it a good
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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance

Is there a DTD available for the namespace definitions in the html
tag of the XHTML files, so IDEA does not highlight it in red?

Tom


On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:00:48 +0200, Igor Vaynberg  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 yes it states that, and to a very large degree (more then any other
 framework) we follow it. but what drives this framework are the facts  
 that
 we set realistic goals and come up with practical solutions. we are not
 purists. the most practical solution for us is to have these special tags
 for markup that is very wicket-specific. these tags act as  
 barriers/markers,
 they are not components that you attach to a page.

 -igor


 On 4/10/07, Thomas Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The wicket website states at the end of the first paragraph ... written
 with plain Java and HTML. IIRC, the wicket:... tags do not belong to
 plain HTML.

 BTW, is there a DTD available for the namespace definitions in the html
 tag of the XHTML files, so IDEA does not highlight it in red?

 --
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 On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:27:18 +0200, Igor Vaynberg
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  we like our namespaced tags. they are xhtml compliant and get stripped
  from
  final output. so that will stay the default. if you want to hack away
 the
  please feel free to do so, but i do not think you will get much in the
  way
  of support.
 
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Re: [Wicket-user] 2 issues with RefreshingView : ERROR - RequestCycle - Index: 0 and submit button present too many times

2007-04-11 Thread ZedroS Schwart

Hi Igor

I've played with it again regarding the multiple ajax submit buttons
and I've noticed the following behavior :
- this issue is only happening on Firefox (more precisely :
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.8.1.3)
Gecko/20070309 Firefox/2.0.0.3). On Internet Explorer 6 SP2 it's
working fine.
- this issue only appears when I add the panel to my form. I've
emptied my panel and it's still the same issue.

BTW, I'm working on Wicket 1.3.

If needed, I wouldn't mind sending my code to let you play with it.
I've started to do a issue demo app but it takes time.

ZedroS
On 4/10/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 not really, its a complex hierarchy and if i was going to debug it i would
 have to recreate it myself.

 -igor


 On 4/10/07, ZedroS Schwart  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I agree that the current modelisation is quite complex. Quickly, it's
  the following : my page has a form, let's call it form Form1. This
  form in fact inherits an Ajax form. This Ajax form add the Ajax
  submit button, an AjaxIndicator image and define the feedbackpanel.
 
  In Form1, I add two textfields with theirs borders and then a panel.
  This panel, called Panel1, contains a form and, added to this form,
  the RefreshingView. On the RefreshingView populateItem(...) I add two
  Labels and then the ActionPanel containing my 2 links.
 
  BTW, when the page renders for the first time, the row containing my
  ajax submit button is black. That's really weird since nowhere I've
  asked for it to be black... The added ajax submit buttons are added on
  a line above, one next to the other(s).
 
  Does it help you ?
 
  I'm going to dig deeper to see if I can do a quickstart for you to
  reproduce it (or to narrow my issue my removing non necessary stuff).
 
  Thanks again igor
 
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Re: [Wicket-user] 2 issues with RefreshingView : ERROR - RequestCycle - Index: 0 and submit button present too many times

2007-04-11 Thread ZedroS Schwart

Hi again


I've done a demo application for the issue (bug ?). I've spotted its
appear when I add my template page (otherwise it's working).

The demo app does 5Mo, so it won't go through the mailing list. So I
send it directly to you Igor, I hope you won't mind.

If anyone else would like it, just let me know.

ZedroS


On 4/11/07, ZedroS Schwart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Igor

 I've played with it again regarding the multiple ajax submit buttons
 and I've noticed the following behavior :
 - this issue is only happening on Firefox (more precisely :
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.8.1.3)
 Gecko/20070309 Firefox/2.0.0.3). On Internet Explorer 6 SP2 it's
 working fine.
 - this issue only appears when I add the panel to my form. I've
 emptied my panel and it's still the same issue.

 BTW, I'm working on Wicket 1.3.

 If needed, I wouldn't mind sending my code to let you play with it.
 I've started to do a issue demo app but it takes time.

 ZedroS
 On 4/10/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  not really, its a complex hierarchy and if i was going to debug it i would
  have to recreate it myself.
 
  -igor
 
 
  On 4/10/07, ZedroS Schwart  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I agree that the current modelisation is quite complex. Quickly, it's
   the following : my page has a form, let's call it form Form1. This
   form in fact inherits an Ajax form. This Ajax form add the Ajax
   submit button, an AjaxIndicator image and define the feedbackpanel.
  
   In Form1, I add two textfields with theirs borders and then a panel.
   This panel, called Panel1, contains a form and, added to this form,
   the RefreshingView. On the RefreshingView populateItem(...) I add two
   Labels and then the ActionPanel containing my 2 links.
  
   BTW, when the page renders for the first time, the row containing my
   ajax submit button is black. That's really weird since nowhere I've
   asked for it to be black... The added ajax submit buttons are added on
   a line above, one next to the other(s).
  
   Does it help you ?
  
   I'm going to dig deeper to see if I can do a quickstart for you to
   reproduce it (or to narrow my issue my removing non necessary stuff).
  
   Thanks again igor
  
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Re: [Wicket-user] JavaScript Hijacking

2007-04-11 Thread Johannes Fahrenkrug

Hi!

snip
 If you have e.g. blog application that allows users to enter comment
 that other users can see, always escape the script tags, so that
 user can't post script tag in a comment, as this can be used to
 steal other user's confidential informations.
   
/snip

That's a very good point. Basically transforming all html control chars 
into html entities is a good idea.
You can also execute javascript like this: body 
onload=alert('xss')/body or even like this, without  and :
(if this value is put into a textfield's value attribute):  
onchange=alert('xss')

- Johannes


 -Matej

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 Hi!

 How protected is Wicket against JavaScript Hijacking, as described in this
 paper?

 http://www.fortifysoftware.com/servlet/downloads/public/JavaScript_Hijacking.pdf
 http://www.fortifysoftware.com/servlet/downloads/public/JavaScript_Hijacking.pdf


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Re: [Wicket-user] custom PageMap

2007-04-11 Thread Dmitry Kandalov



Johan Compagner wrote:
 
 what do you mean never expire?
 the page itself? (with 1.3 pages do never expire in the default setting)
 
 but if the http session expires then the page will go with it. For this
 you
 can use stateless components (like a stateless link or form)
 
 johan
 

Yes, I meant the page (didn't know that about 1.3). What I want is to have
one instance of page per http session so it seems ok. Could you please point
me to how make the page have it's own name in the PageMap?
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[Wicket-user] mount page url

2007-04-11 Thread tbt


Hi,

I need to mount a page url because we need to use a static url to hook it up
with google analytics. I tried adding the following code in the applications
init() method.

mountBookmarkablePage(/home, SignUp.class);

Now I can access the page directly using the static url but once users
navigate to the page through wicket it creates a dynamic url such as
http://localhost:8080/aloha?wicket:interface=:8::

can this url be made to appear as 'http://localhost:8080/aloha/signup' when
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Re: [Wicket-user] mount page url

2007-04-11 Thread Matej Knopp

getRequestCycle().setResponsePage(SignUp.class);

-Matej

On 4/11/07, tbt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 I need to mount a page url because we need to use a static url to hook it up
 with google analytics. I tried adding the following code in the applications
 init() method.

 mountBookmarkablePage(/home, SignUp.class);

 Now I can access the page directly using the static url but once users
 navigate to the page through wicket it creates a dynamic url such as
 http://localhost:8080/aloha?wicket:interface=:8::

 can this url be made to appear as 'http://localhost:8080/aloha/signup' when
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Re: [Wicket-user] treetable with table markup

2007-04-11 Thread Matej Knopp

Hi, I'm not sure it is possible to change the markup of current
treetable without actually copying the classes and the markup.
However, it is on my todo list to change the markup from spans and
divs to table. But it's not a high priority one I'm affraid.

So If you want to do it on your own, I suggest you copying TreeTable
component and making the appropriate changes, as this seems to be the
safest bet.

Second question, I assume you want to show inserted rows without
refreshing the entire listview? Well, this is possible to certain
degree, but requres some javacsript foo. You need to create the DOM
element with appropriate id (in javascript) before adding the newly
created ListItem to ajaxrequesttarget. TreeTable does it, however, not
with ListView. It uses different kind of repeater.

-Matej

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 of spans? I need this because html tables can adopt columns widths
 according to values and newlines in some columns of our table is
 prohibited. Should I write my own component derived from
 DefaultAbstractTree, or extend TreeTable and change its markup or smth
 else?

 And the second question - is it possible to insert rows in a ListView
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[Wicket-user] Interesting maven experience...


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[Wicket-user] Interesting maven experience...


Just a note for your information.

I just had an unusual experience with maven when building wicket-1.x. Had
done a few updates, and then the install target got in a strange loop. It
took forever and then my disk was full! Turned out that the wicket sources
has swollen a bit:

-rw-r--r--1 ejeklint  ejeklint  13756395463 Apr 11 12:47
wicket-1.3.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT-sources.jar

Whoah! Didn't seem right. :)

Deleting all and getting it fresh from svn fixed it.

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Re: [Wicket-user] mount page url

2007-04-11 Thread tbt


Thanks. That worked fine. But I want to pass parameters such as
setResponsePage(new SignUp(clientModel,clientList) etc.
How can I use SignUp.class and pass the parameters at the same time. The
SignUp page is not using a default constructor.


Matej Knopp-2 wrote:
 
 getRequestCycle().setResponsePage(SignUp.class);
 
 -Matej
 
 On 4/11/07, tbt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I need to mount a page url because we need to use a static url to hook it
 up
 with google analytics. I tried adding the following code in the
 applications
 init() method.

 mountBookmarkablePage(/home, SignUp.class);

 Now I can access the page directly using the static url but once users
 navigate to the page through wicket it creates a dynamic url such as
 http://localhost:8080/aloha?wicket:interface=:8::

 can this url be made to appear as 'http://localhost:8080/aloha/signup'
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Re: [Wicket-user] treetable with table markup

2007-04-11 Thread Andrew Klochkov

Matej Knopp wrote:
Second question, I assume you want to show inserted rows without
refreshing the entire listview? Well, this is possible to certain
degree, but requres some javacsript foo. You need to create the DOM
element with appropriate id (in javascript) before adding the newly
created ListItem to ajaxrequesttarget. TreeTable does it, however, not
with ListView. It uses different kind of repeater.

Now I think it's impossible to insert rows in a list created with
ListView via AJAX because children items id's are just their index in
the list. So when I insert something in the list, I have to change id's
of all lower items and do the same thing with scripts on the client
side. It's getting too complex and slow.

So I'm trying to create CustomListView by copying it from ListView and
extracting children item id generation strategy. But I have a problem -
when I create new list item during ajax request, add it to a
CustomListView instance and append to AjaxRequestTarget, I get the
following error:

ERROR - RequestCycle - Unable to find the markup for the
component. That may be due to transparent containers or components
implementing IComponentResolver: [MarkupContainer [Component id = ad4,
page = listview.ListViewPage, path =
7:list-container:list:ad4.CustomListItem, isVisible = true, isVersioned
= false]]
wicket.WicketRuntimeException: Unable to find the markup for the
component. That may be due to transparent containers or components
implementing IComponentResolver: [MarkupContainer [Component id = ad4,
page = listview.ListViewPage, path =
7:list-container:list:ad4.CustomListItem, isVisible = true, isVersioned
= false]]
at wicket.MarkupFragmentFinder.find(MarkupFragmentFinder.java:110)
at wicket.Component.renderComponent(Component.java:1593)
at
wicket.ajax.AjaxRequestTarget.respondComponent(AjaxRequestTarget.java:691)
at
wicket.ajax.AjaxRequestTarget.respondComponents(AjaxRequestTarget.java:588)
at wicket.ajax.AjaxRequestTarget.respond(AjaxRequestTarget.java:476)
at
wicket.request.AbstractRequestCycleProcessor.respond(AbstractRequestCycleProcessor.java:102)

I looked through AbstractTree.updateTree code, but didn't find any
special magic to insert new rows.. Please help!

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Re: [Wicket-user] custom PageMap

2007-04-11 Thread Johan Compagner


a page doesn't have a name just an id

But i guess if you want one page that shouldn't expire (at least as long as
the http session doesn't expire)
you could try to do that in 1.2 with the Page Eviction Strategy. So you just
don't remove that page.

johan


On 4/11/07, Dmitry Kandalov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Johan Compagner wrote:

 what do you mean never expire?
 the page itself? (with 1.3 pages do never expire in the default setting)

 but if the http session expires then the page will go with it. For this
 you
 can use stateless components (like a stateless link or form)

 johan


Yes, I meant the page (didn't know that about 1.3). What I want is to have
one instance of page per http session so it seems ok. Could you please
point
me to how make the page have it's own name in the PageMap?
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Re: [Wicket-user] mount page url

2007-04-11 Thread Johan Compagner


you can only pass parameters those parameters can be externalized (strings
or ints)

setResponsePage(SignUp.class, PageParameters)

johan


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Thanks. That worked fine. But I want to pass parameters such as
setResponsePage(new SignUp(clientModel,clientList) etc.
How can I use SignUp.class and pass the parameters at the same time. The
SignUp page is not using a default constructor.


Matej Knopp-2 wrote:

 getRequestCycle().setResponsePage(SignUp.class);

 -Matej

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 Hi,

 I need to mount a page url because we need to use a static url to hook
it
 up
 with google analytics. I tried adding the following code in the
 applications
 init() method.

 mountBookmarkablePage(/home, SignUp.class);

 Now I can access the page directly using the static url but once users
 navigate to the page through wicket it creates a dynamic url such as
 http://localhost:8080/aloha?wicket:interface=:8::

 can this url be made to appear as 'http://localhost:8080/aloha/signup'
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Re: [Wicket-user] treetable with table markup

2007-04-11 Thread Andrew Klochkov

Andrew Klochkov wrote:
Matej Knopp wrote:

Second question, I assume you want to show inserted rows without
refreshing the entire listview? Well, this is possible to certain
degree, but requres some javacsript foo. You need to create the DOM
element with appropriate id (in javascript) before adding the newly
created ListItem to ajaxrequesttarget. TreeTable does it, however, not
with ListView. It uses different kind of repeater.

I looked through AbstractTree.updateTree code, but didn't find any
special magic to insert new rows.. Please help!

I found that special magic and there is A LOT of it :-((( First, it's in
TreeItem.onRender - old item renders itself and all new items below it.
And second, there's a hack in the Markup class:

// TODO Post 1.2: A component path e.g. panel:label does not match 1:1
// with the markup in case of ListView, where the path contains a number
// for each list item. E.g. list:0:label. What we currently do is simply
// remove the number from the path and hope that no user uses an integer
// for a component id. This is a hack only. A much better solution would
// delegate to the various components recursivly to search within there
// realm only for the components markup. ListItems could then simply
// do nothing and delegate to their parents.

Arrg :((( I'll try to use decimal id's... Wicket is not so perfect
as it looks at the first glance :(

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[Wicket-user] ConversionException refactor

2007-04-11 Thread ChuckDeal


I was working with wicket.datetime.util.DateConverter in an attempt to try
and get it to report a parse error instead of silently accepting the bad
input, when I nrealized that if it threw a ConversionException, the
framework would be able to pick up on that (in my case
FormComponent.convert() would catch it) and allow me to register the
feedback error message.

While following that thread, I noticed that not only was there identical
code in FormComponent.convert in the two catch blocks, but a third class
TypeValidator was also using the same block of code:

Map args = new HashMap();
final Locale locale = e.getLocale();
if (locale != null)
{
args.put(locale, locale);
}
args.put(exception, e);
Format format = e.getFormat();
if (format instanceof SimpleDateFormat)
{
args.put(format, ((SimpleDateFormat)format).toLocalizedPattern());
}

All this block is really doing is analyzing the ConversionException to build
the args HashMap for the error reporting facilities.  I was thinking that if
this code block was refactored INTO the ConversionException then the code
duplication could be removed (as the first benefit), but then Converters
would be able to inject their own variables into the Map to allow for even
better message definitions.

While I was looking at the usage of ConversionException, it also looked like
AbstractConverter, AbstractNumberConverter,
PropertyResolver$ArrayPropertyGetSet, and PropertyResolver$MethodGetSet
might all benefit from the refactor by externalizing their messages and
inject the proper variables into the Exception's Map.

If I haven't missed the mark too bad, I can write a JIRA for this.  Also, I
could even try the refactor given my description here and any feedback that
you give me.  

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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance

2007-04-11 Thread Thomas R. Corbin

On Wednesday, 11 April 2007 02:31 am, Thomas Singer escreveu:
 Is there a DTD available for the namespace definitions in the html
 tag of the XHTML files, so IDEA does not highlight it in red?

I think someone posted one last week, if you search the mailing lists 
you can 
find it.


 Tom


 On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:00:48 +0200, Igor Vaynberg

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  yes it states that, and to a very large degree (more then any other
  framework) we follow it. but what drives this framework are the facts
  that
  we set realistic goals and come up with practical solutions. we are not
  purists. the most practical solution for us is to have these special tags
  for markup that is very wicket-specific. these tags act as
  barriers/markers,
  they are not components that you attach to a page.
 
  -igor
 
  On 4/10/07, Thomas Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The wicket website states at the end of the first paragraph ... written
  with plain Java and HTML. IIRC, the wicket:... tags do not belong to
  plain HTML.
 
  BTW, is there a DTD available for the namespace definitions in the html
  tag of the XHTML files, so IDEA does not highlight it in red?
 
  --
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  On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:27:18 +0200, Igor Vaynberg
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   we like our namespaced tags. they are xhtml compliant and get stripped
   from
   final output. so that will stay the default. if you want to hack away
 
  the
 
   please feel free to do so, but i do not think you will get much in the
   way
   of support.
  
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Re: [Wicket-user] [datetime] DateConverter

2007-04-11 Thread ChuckDeal



Eelco Hillenius wrote:
 
 I did, and I agree :). I'll have something new later today or this week.
 
 Eelco
 

After this email exchange, I hadn't noticed any work in the datetime
project, so I started tweaking it myself.  I know that you were concerned
with supporting both Date and DateTime, but the tweaks I have been making a
geared towards a pure DateTime impl inside the wicket-datetime project. 
Have you made any progress on the impl that you were working on?  Should I
prepare a patch of what I have done so far, so that you can see how close it
comes to what you want?

I'm in the process of trying to get it to report better parse errors (see my
other thread on the ConversionException refactor idea...)

I also have a DateTimeLabel component that could go with this package
designed with the same style as DateTextField.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Problem with TinyMCE on a panel

2007-04-11 Thread Iulian Costan


hi,

there is an already known issue related to this; tinymce's JS/CSS imports
are lost if there is any AJAX request involved. it is on my TODO list but
unfortunately i  couldnt put my hands on it. i'll try to do it this weekend.

/iulian

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Hi all,

I've been trying to get TinyMCE to display on a panel and haven't
been having much luck.  I've seen it work if it's not on a panel, but
my guess is when the panel is loaded and the contents of the panel
are patched up in the DOM, the patches that TinyMCE made are lost.

I talked to Igor about this one night on IRC and he suggested using a
behavior, overriding iHeaderResponse.renderOnDomReadyJavascript() to
call tinyMCE.init.  That all seems like it should work, but alas, it
does not.

If it weren't for plugging at this off and on for two weeks, I'd keep
chugging, but I'm afraid I don't know enough to debug this.

So if you choose to accept it, the mission is to download http://
tetsuko.autoscraper.com/files/testTCE.tgz and see if anything looks
out of place.  It's a large file only because it's got TinyMCE
preloaded... there's only about 140 lines of code there.

Any thoughts, information, RTFM, etc are gratefully accepted.  Thanks!

Brian

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Re: [Wicket-user] Interesting maven experience...

2007-04-11 Thread Wesley Hales


I had the same problem - I was trying to build 1.3

On 4/11/07, Per Ejeklint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Just a note for your information.

I just had an unusual experience with maven when building wicket-1.x. Had
done a few updates, and then the install target got in a strange loop. It
took forever and then my disk was full! Turned out that the wicket sources
has swollen a bit:

-rw-r--r--1 ejeklint  ejeklint  13756395463 Apr 11 12:47
wicket-1.3.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT-sources.jar

Whoah! Didn't seem right. :)

Deleting all and getting it fresh from svn fixed it.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Interesting maven experience...

Any idea how to reproduce this?

Eelco


On 4/11/07, Per Ejeklint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just a note for your information.

 I just had an unusual experience with maven when building wicket-1.x. Had
 done a few updates, and then the install target got in a strange loop. It
 took forever and then my disk was full! Turned out that the wicket sources
 has swollen a bit:

 -rw-r--r--1 ejeklint  ejeklint  13756395463 Apr 11 12:47
 wicket-1.3.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT-sources.jar

 Whoah! Didn't seem right. :)

 Deleting all and getting it fresh from svn fixed it.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance

Unfortunately, searching the user mailing list is broken. When clicking at  
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/mail-lists.html at the sourceforge.net-link  
of the Wicket User List, I'm getting the message No Forum Chosen.

Tom


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday, 11 April 2007 02:31 am, Thomas Singer escreveu:
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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance

 The wicket website states at the end of the first paragraph ... written
 with plain Java and HTML. IIRC, the wicket:... tags do not belong to
 plain HTML.

Maybe we should change that section. But it is all valid namespaced
XHMTL (which I guess JSF is as well). The main reason for having
wicket:... tags is that we felt it was appropriate to mark regions,
and in the case of wicket:message things that don't have a direct
user-added Java counter part. We felt that if we would use wicket:xx
attribute for everything (which we considered two years ago), it would
be much harder to read the templates.

Stripping of the wicket tags is done when in deployment mode, or you
can do getMarkupSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);

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Re: [Wicket-user] Interesting maven experience...


Sorry, I really don't know. I have erased the entire branch so I can't re-run
the sequence. I checked out wicket-1.x about 10 days ago, and I think it was
after the second update which I did this Saturday or Sunday, that the
problems started. It was definitely before the big renaming change to
org.apache.wicket.

Maven did spew out a lot of warnings on javadoc generation, a number of
@link tags that couldn't be resolved but I don't remember the exact message,
and then it hanged on generating the sources.jar.

/Per


Eelco Hillenius wrote:
 
 Any idea how to reproduce this?
 
 Eelco
 
 
 On 4/11/07, Per Ejeklint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just a note for your information.

 I just had an unusual experience with maven when building wicket-1.x. Had
 done a few updates, and then the install target got in a strange loop. It
 took forever and then my disk was full! Turned out that the wicket
 sources
 has swollen a bit:

 -rw-r--r--1 ejeklint  ejeklint  13756395463 Apr 11 12:47
 wicket-1.3.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT-sources.jar

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Re: [Wicket-user] [datetime] DateConverter

  I did, and I agree :). I'll have something new later today or this week.
 
  Eelco
 

 After this email exchange, I hadn't noticed any work in the datetime
 project, so I started tweaking it myself.  I know that you were concerned
 with supporting both Date and DateTime, but the tweaks I have been making a
 geared towards a pure DateTime impl inside the wicket-datetime project.
 Have you made any progress on the impl that you were working on?  Should I
 prepare a patch of what I have done so far, so that you can see how close it
 comes to what you want?

Patches are always welcome, but no promises they'll be applied to the code :)

 I also have a DateTimeLabel component that could go with this package
 designed with the same style as DateTextField.

Ok. I added DateLabel last week in case you hadn't noticed.

I ran out of time again unfortunately. I was about half-way preparing
my changes when I got side tracked by more pressing things. Sorry :)

Eelco

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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance


On 4/10/07, Thomas Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Igor,

 yes it states that, and to a very large degree (more then any other
framework)

IIRC, Reasonable Server Faces can do that. They only have the one
attribute
to mark tags. So your statement in braces is false from my point of view.
But you might be right for other frameworks which introduce a lot of
additional tags in the templates.



so how does markup inheritance look like in RSF?



 but what drives this framework are the facts that we set realistic goals
and come up with practical solutions.

What exactly is unrealistic and not practical with pure wicket:id
attributes?



wicket:id is used to denote components, wicket:extend and friends are NOT
components.


these tags act as barriers/markers, they are not components that you
attach to a page.

They might act as barriers for not being able to use a GUI html editor...



my editor handles them just fine, maybe you need a better one. but please do
show me what you think it should look like without the special tags?

-igor


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Igor Vaynberg schrieb:
 yes it states that, and to a very large degree (more then any other
 framework) we follow it. but what drives this framework are the facts
 that we set realistic goals and come up with practical solutions. we are
 not purists. the most practical solution for us is to have these special
 tags for markup that is very wicket-specific. these tags act as
 barriers/markers, they are not components that you attach to a page.

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[Wicket-user] wicket-example/pub/goChinese is broken - Home_zh_CN.html

2007-04-11 Thread Tony Fu


The header of Home_zh_CN.html should be:


html xmlns:wicket=http://wicket.sourceforge.net/;

head

titleWicket Examples - pub/title

meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=gb2312/

link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=style.css/

/head


instead of


?xml encoding=GBK?

!--It is useful for input the right info when the server run on the
linux--

html xmlns:wicket=http://wicket.sourceforge.net/;

head

titleWicket Examples - pub/title

meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=gb2312/

link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=style.css/

/head
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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance

2007-04-11 Thread Sven Meier

Sourceforge changed their URLs for the mailing list archives. It has to be:

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=wicket-user

Note the parameter 'forum_name' instead of 'forum'. Could someone 
correct the links please?

Sven

Thomas Singer wrote:
 Unfortunately, searching the user mailing list is broken. When clicking at  
 http://wicket.sourceforge.net/mail-lists.html at the sourceforge.net-link  
 of the Wicket User List, I'm getting the message No Forum Chosen.

 Tom


 On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:15:40 +0200, Thomas R. Corbin  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 On Wednesday, 11 April 2007 02:31 am, Thomas Singer escreveu:
 
 Is there a DTD available for the namespace definitions in the html
 tag of the XHTML files, so IDEA does not highlight it in red?
   
  I think someone posted one last week, if you search the mailing lists  
 you can
 find it.
 

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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance

 so how does markup inheritance look like in RSF?

Please take a look at

   http://www2.caret.cam.ac.uk/rsfwiki/Wiki.jsp?page=OuterPageTemplates

 wicket:id is used to denote components, wicket:extend and friends are NOT
 components.

 From my POV, wicket:id is - well, as the name suggests - an ID to mark an  
HTML-tag.

 my editor handles them just fine, maybe you need a better one.

I don't have influence on what HTML editor a designer uses.

 but please do
 show me what you think it should look like without the special tags?

I only could provide a Border replacement which only requires wicket:id to  
work.

Tom

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Re: [Wicket-user] [datetime] DateConverter

2007-04-11 Thread ChuckDeal



Eelco Hillenius wrote:
 
 After this email exchange, I hadn't noticed any work in the datetime
 project, so I started tweaking it myself.  I know that you were concerned
 with supporting both Date and DateTime, but the tweaks I have been making
 a
 geared towards a pure DateTime impl inside the wicket-datetime project.
 Have you made any progress on the impl that you were working on?  Should
 I
 prepare a patch of what I have done so far, so that you can see how close
 it
 comes to what you want?
 
 Patches are always welcome, but no promises they'll be applied to the code
 :)
 

Understood, I will create a JIRA with the patch.  That is, unless you reply
and suggest a specific JIRA to attach it to.  If you have questions before
applying the patch, I won't take offense if you need me to defend my code.


Eelco Hillenius wrote:
 
 I also have a DateTimeLabel component that could go with this package
 designed with the same style as DateTextField.
 
 Ok. I added DateLabel last week in case you hadn't noticed.
 

I hadn't noticed... I was keeping up with SVN, but once you guys started to
backport the stuff from 2.0, I decided to wait until the dust settled before
synching back up again.  And according to your wiki page on the backporting,
there is still some work to go...


Eelco Hillenius wrote:
 
 I ran out of time again unfortunately. I was about half-way preparing
 my changes when I got side tracked by more pressing things. Sorry :)
 

I know about priorities.  If I have to, I'll continue maintaining my own
copy of the framework with our internal patches that don't make the cut
for the framework proper.

Chuck
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Re: [Wicket-user] [datetime] DateConverter

Cheers Chuck.


 Understood, I will create a JIRA with the patch.  That is, unless you reply
 and suggest a specific JIRA to attach it to.  If you have questions before
 applying the patch, I won't take offense if you need me to defend my code.

My ideal situation still is that the converter and components in
wicket-datetime would work with both Date and DateTime objects
transparently. I don't care about how they work internally, but IMO
they should work regardless of whether the model object is a Date or
DateTime object.

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[Wicket-user] Reloading the current page

2007-04-11 Thread Jason Roelofs


How do you do this? I have a form with a few fields that onSubmit I want to
complete redo the page. I know it's not happening by default because there's
a generated string that doesn't change when it's supposed to.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance

2007-04-11 Thread Gwyn Evans

Hi Thomas,

Wednesday, April 11, 2007, 5:15:05 PM, you wrote:

 Unfortunately, searching the user mailing list is broken. When clicking at
 http://wicket.sourceforge.net/mail-lists.html at the sourceforge.net-link
 of the Wicket User List, I'm getting the message No Forum Chosen.

Use Nabble - http://www.nabble.com/Wicket-f13974.html for all Wicket
lists or http://www.nabble.com/Wicket---User-f13976.html for just
Wicket-User.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Reloading the current page

You can reload the page by e.g. calling setReponsePage(MyPage.class)
or setReponsePage(new MyPage(foo, bar));

Eelco

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Re: [Wicket-user] Creating Entire Forms in Java Code Only?

2007-04-11 Thread Jason Roelofs


On 4/11/07, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  After 40+ hours of more research, I did indeed find my style of coding
- and
  it clicks. Page-based, ...

Another thing I don't agree with is that page-orientation is something
to aim for[1]. I believe a mixed model is more powerful[2].

There's a lot more that can be said about the different frameworks,
but I think it can be summed up by saying that Click is primarily
pragmatic and focussed on simplicity, whereas Wicket is focussed on
providing a true OO programming model with clean separation of markup
and logic. Imo, there's something to say for both.

[1] http://www.nabble.com/Click-Rules%21%21%21-tf3555269.html
[2] http://chillenious.wordpress.com/2006/07/16/on-page-navigation/

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I wonder if someone here can answer me this question: Why do more and more
Java frameworks try to push users farther away from the tried-and-true web
experience of having web pages that submit to servers and create other web
pages? Everything I see is trying to redefine how websites are developed and
frankly I've yet to see a single framework that does this completely and
doesn't get in the developer's way. In the end, it's still a web page, and
the expectations are there. For example, I want to submit a form, process
the data, and redisplay the same page, though with some changes according to
what was inputted. I don't know how to do this and I can't find anything in
the docs. Why is something so simple, so trivial anywhere else not also
trivial here in Wicket?

I've never messed with the likes of Echo or GWT, but I can't think that
these are any better as they try to abstract even farther by generating
Javascript for super-dynamic (read: one-page browser-breaking) applications.


Why is this, and where are the modern Java web frameworks that don't try
to reinvent the concept of a website?

Jason
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Re: [Wicket-user] Reloading the current page

2007-04-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst

On 4/11/07, Jason Roelofs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do you do this? I have a form with a few fields that onSubmit I want to
 complete redo the page. I know it's not happening by default because there's
 a generated string that doesn't change when it's supposed to.

You probably show the string as follows?

add(new Label(text, My  + generated +  string));
or
add(new Label(text, myGenerator.getGeneratedString());

This creates a static binding between the generated string *at
construction time* and the label. What you need to do is to evaluate
the string generation 'lazily', or at render time.

The constructor is only called once for a page, so the static strings
will only be generated once.

The solution for your problem can be anything from using PropertyModel
to creating an inline, anonymous subclass of AbstractReadOnlyModel
like:

add(new Label(text, new AbstractReadOnlyModel() {
public Object getObject() {
return generator.getGeneratedText();
}));

Be sure to read up on models at this page [1].

Martijn

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Re: [Wicket-user] Creating Entire Forms in Java Code Only?


u, this is not trivial? are you kidding?

let me write something up from memory

public class GuestBookPage extends WebPage {
 private ListString comments=new ArrayList();
 private String latestComment;

 public GuestBookPage() {
 add(new ListView(comments, new PropertyModel(this, comments) {
 protected void populateItem(ListItem item) {
   add(new Label(comment, item.getModel()));
 }
 Form form=new Form(form);
 add(form);
 form.add(new TextField(comment, new PropertyModel(this,
latestComment)));
 form.add(new Button(submit) {
  protected void onClick() {
 comments.add(latestComment);
  }
 }
  }
}

htmlbodyulli wicket:id=commentsspan
wicket:id=comment/span/li/ul
form wicket:id=forminput wicket:id=comment type=text/input
wicket:id=submit type=submit value=add comment//form/body/html

done

what exactly is so difficult about the above?

-igor


On 4/11/07, Jason Roelofs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 4/11/07, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   After 40+ hours of more research, I did indeed find my style of
 coding - and
   it clicks. Page-based, ...

 Another thing I don't agree with is that page-orientation is something
 to aim for[1]. I believe a mixed model is more powerful[2].

 There's a lot more that can be said about the different frameworks,
 but I think it can be summed up by saying that Click is primarily
 pragmatic and focussed on simplicity, whereas Wicket is focussed on
 providing a true OO programming model with clean separation of markup
 and logic. Imo, there's something to say for both.

 [1] http://www.nabble.com/Click-Rules%21%21%21-tf3555269.html
 [2] http://chillenious.wordpress.com/2006/07/16/on-page-navigation/

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I wonder if someone here can answer me this question: Why do more and more
Java frameworks try to push users farther away from the tried-and-true web
experience of having web pages that submit to servers and create other web
pages? Everything I see is trying to redefine how websites are developed and
frankly I've yet to see a single framework that does this completely and
doesn't get in the developer's way. In the end, it's still a web page, and
the expectations are there. For example, I want to submit a form, process
the data, and redisplay the same page, though with some changes according to
what was inputted. I don't know how to do this and I can't find anything in
the docs. Why is something so simple, so trivial anywhere else not also
trivial here in Wicket?

I've never messed with the likes of Echo or GWT, but I can't think that
these are any better as they try to abstract even farther by generating
Javascript for super-dynamic (read: one-page browser-breaking) applications.


Why is this, and where are the modern Java web frameworks that don't try
to reinvent the concept of a website?

Jason



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Re: [Wicket-user] Creating Entire Forms in Java Code Only?

 Why is this, and where are the modern Java web frameworks that don't try
 to reinvent the concept of a website?

What a framework like Wicket tries to do is provide a programming
model that mimics programming like you would do for a desktop UI app.
Why? Because the model is much better suited for the kind of
applications many users are building nowadays.

Of course, if you are really just developing a document oriented web
site with just a couple of forms and not much else, this may be
overkill. Much like JPA/ Hibernate/ JDO are overkil when you have a
simple data model. But you'd be a minority, given the attention 'rich'
user interfaces over the web get nowadays.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-460

i personally find it much uglier then namespaced tags just because it is
much easier to read the markup. but of course if you are using some fancy
gui editor the point is moot.

-igor


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 so how does markup inheritance look like in RSF?

Please take a look at

   http://www2.caret.cam.ac.uk/rsfwiki/Wiki.jsp?page=OuterPageTemplates

 wicket:id is used to denote components, wicket:extend and friends are
NOT
 components.

From my POV, wicket:id is - well, as the name suggests - an ID to mark an
HTML-tag.

 my editor handles them just fine, maybe you need a better one.

I don't have influence on what HTML editor a designer uses.

 but please do
 show me what you think it should look like without the special tags?

I only could provide a Border replacement which only requires wicket:id to
work.

Tom

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Re: [Wicket-user] Creating Entire Forms in Java Code Only?

2007-04-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst

On 4/11/07, Jason Roelofs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wonder if someone here can answer me this question: Why do more and more
 Java frameworks try to push users farther away from the tried-and-true web
 experience of having web pages that submit to servers and create other web
 pages?

I'm not sure what prompted this reaction. I can only point at [1] to
give you a baseline as to what the goals of Wicket are regarding the
programming model. If you don't like the programming model, then you
are welcome to suggest improvements, or if you /really/ don't like it
pick one you do like. We won't threaten you, or hate you for the
choice you make.

 Everything I see is trying to redefine how websites are developed and
 frankly I've yet to see a single framework that does this completely and
 doesn't get in the developer's way.

Again I'm not sure what is bothering you. How, where and why is Wicket
getting in your way?

 In the end, it's still a web page, and the expectations are there. For 
 example,
 I want to submit a form, process the data, and redisplay the same page,
 though with some changes according to what was inputted. I don't know how
 to do this and I can't find anything in the docs. Why is something so simple,
 so trivial anywhere else not also trivial here in Wicket?

I am sorry that you are not able to do and find what you want. But
asking the right questions in the right tone will get you ahead much
better than complaining that you couldn't perform a task so simple.
Some things in Wicket require getting used to. One of those things are
the Model concept, which is probably the cause of your frustration.

 I've never messed with the likes of Echo or GWT, but I can't think that
 these are any better as they try to abstract even farther by generating
 Javascript for super-dynamic (read: one-page browser-breaking) applications.

Neither have I but I think they are filling a niche that needs to be
filled. Apparently Google knows how to build a great application using
GWT that scales tremendously (though they have the hardware and the
bandwidth to support such scale too).

 Why is this, and where are the modern Java web frameworks that don't try
 to reinvent the concept of a website?

I'm not sure what you mean by reinventing the concept of a website. If
you talk about single page, ajax enabled, back button breaking
applications... then wicket should fit your bill, as we support all 3
modes:

 * the usual multi page applications using traditional links
(sprinkled with some
ajax where it makes sense)
 * the less usual single page application using traditional links (using panel
   replacement, not breaking the back button, possibly sprinkled with
some ajax),
 * the full blown single page, ajax enabled, back button breaking
(though I think
   there are some ideas to enable the back button too, Dojo at least
has support
   for that) interface.

Wicket requires a more than basic understanding of object orientation:
you need to know about the lifecycle of objects: construction (only
once), rendering (multiple times), clean up (garbace collection,
depending on the pagemap strategy). Once you grok the idea that
construction is only done once, and that anything you push into
components, will not update, then you're golden.

Martijn

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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance

Igor, you've made my day! I did not expected to convince you. :D

Tom


On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:18:50 +0200, Igor Vaynberg  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-460

 i personally find it much uglier then namespaced tags just because it is
 much easier to read the markup. but of course if you are using some fancy
 gui editor the point is moot.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance

Sorry, I forgot the Thanks.

Tom


On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:39:56 +0200, Thomas Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Igor, you've made my day! I did not expected to convince you. :D

 Tom


 On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:18:50 +0200, Igor Vaynberg
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-460

 i personally find it much uglier then namespaced tags just because it is
 much easier to read the markup. but of course if you are using some  
 fancy
 gui editor the point is moot.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance


you did not convince me at all. i still think it is very fugly. but
unfortunately wicket is about more then just me :) i also just tweaked it a
bit so you might want to see comments on the jira.

and you are welcome

-igor



On 4/11/07, Thomas Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sorry, I forgot the Thanks.

Tom


On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:39:56 +0200, Thomas Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Igor, you've made my day! I did not expected to convince you. :D

 Tom


 On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:18:50 +0200, Igor Vaynberg
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-460

 i personally find it much uglier then namespaced tags just because it
is
 much easier to read the markup. but of course if you are using some
 fancy
 gui editor the point is moot.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Multi page inheritance

2007-04-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst

On 4/11/07, Thomas Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Igor, you've made my day! I did not expected to convince you. :D

Thomas,

Can you write a wiki article for this?

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Re: [Wicket-user] treetable with table markup

 Arrg :((( I'll try to use decimal id's... Wicket is not so perfect
 as it looks at the first glance :(

Not a perfect world I'm afraid. While we try to expose a simple to use
API, some of the internals are hard (and sometimes even hackish). The
main reason for this is because we support an unmanaged programming
model (you decide how to construct objects etc) rather than sitting on
top of everything you do.

Anyway, you can help making it perfect by providing kick-ass patches
for things you think can be improved :)

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Re: [Wicket-user] treetable with table markup


that did go away in 2.0 i think when juergen switched to MarkupFragment
stuff, it might go away in 1.3 when he backports that

-igor


On 4/11/07, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Arrg :((( I'll try to use decimal id's... Wicket is not so perfect
 as it looks at the first glance :(

Not a perfect world I'm afraid. While we try to expose a simple to use
API, some of the internals are hard (and sometimes even hackish). The
main reason for this is because we support an unmanaged programming
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top of everything you do.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Creating Entire Forms in Java Code Only?

2007-04-11 Thread Jason Roelofs


On 4/11/07, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 4/11/07, Jason Roelofs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wonder if someone here can answer me this question: Why do more and
more
 Java frameworks try to push users farther away from the tried-and-true
web
 experience of having web pages that submit to servers and create other
web
 pages?

I'm not sure what prompted this reaction. I can only point at [1] to
give you a baseline as to what the goals of Wicket are regarding the
programming model. If you don't like the programming model, then you
are welcome to suggest improvements, or if you /really/ don't like it
pick one you do like. We won't threaten you, or hate you for the
choice you make.

 Everything I see is trying to redefine how websites are developed and
 frankly I've yet to see a single framework that does this completely and
 doesn't get in the developer's way.

Again I'm not sure what is bothering you. How, where and why is Wicket
getting in your way?

 In the end, it's still a web page, and the expectations are there. For
example,
 I want to submit a form, process the data, and redisplay the same page,
 though with some changes according to what was inputted. I don't know
how
 to do this and I can't find anything in the docs. Why is something so
simple,
 so trivial anywhere else not also trivial here in Wicket?

I am sorry that you are not able to do and find what you want. But
asking the right questions in the right tone will get you ahead much
better than complaining that you couldn't perform a task so simple.
Some things in Wicket require getting used to. One of those things are
the Model concept, which is probably the cause of your frustration.

 I've never messed with the likes of Echo or GWT, but I can't think that
 these are any better as they try to abstract even farther by generating
 Javascript for super-dynamic (read: one-page browser-breaking)
applications.

Neither have I but I think they are filling a niche that needs to be
filled. Apparently Google knows how to build a great application using
GWT that scales tremendously (though they have the hardware and the
bandwidth to support such scale too).

 Why is this, and where are the modern Java web frameworks that don't
try
 to reinvent the concept of a website?

I'm not sure what you mean by reinventing the concept of a website. If
you talk about single page, ajax enabled, back button breaking
applications... then wicket should fit your bill, as we support all 3
modes:

* the usual multi page applications using traditional links
(sprinkled with some
ajax where it makes sense)
* the less usual single page application using traditional links (using
panel
   replacement, not breaking the back button, possibly sprinkled with
some ajax),
* the full blown single page, ajax enabled, back button breaking
(though I think
   there are some ideas to enable the back button too, Dojo at least
has support
   for that) interface.

Wicket requires a more than basic understanding of object orientation:
you need to know about the lifecycle of objects: construction (only
once), rendering (multiple times), clean up (garbace collection,
depending on the pagemap strategy). Once you grok the idea that
construction is only done once, and that anything you push into
components, will not update, then you're golden.

Martijn

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@Igor:

It's not trivial because it requires complete understanding of the whole
Model system of Wicket. As per my actual question email, Martijn posted
exactly what I'm doing and how to solve it.

In one aspect it is a part of learning a library, on the other hand it fits
in with what I'm wondering: why the basic assumptions of building a web site
keep getting thrown out of the window with every new Java web framework. I
realize that people like the Swing framework for application building; I do
to, it's quite fun to work with. But this isn't desktop application
development, this is web application development. I've yet to see a website
built to act like a desktop application that wasn't slow, buggy, broken in
many browsers, convoluted and hard to use or any combination of these.

This is one of the reasons that Rails is so successful. It doesn't try to
redefine how websites

Re: [Wicket-user] Creating Entire Forms in Java Code Only?




@Igor:

It's not trivial because it requires complete understanding of the whole
Model system of Wicket. As per my actual question email, Martijn posted
exactly what I'm doing and how to solve it.



model is a core concept of the framework, so you better understand at least
that before posting rants. personally i do not understand why it is so
difficult.

public interface IModel { Object getObject(); void setObject(Object o); }

its a small interface with a setter and a getter. there is no system, just
a bunch of different implementations of this interface for different
usecases. we have a great wiki page that describes the whole thing, dont
know why people always complain that our docs are crappy when most people
dont read them.

In one aspect it is a part of learning a library, on the other hand it fits

in with what I'm wondering: why the basic assumptions of building a web site
keep getting thrown out of the window with every new Java web framework.



because these frameworks are not about building web SITES, they are about
building web APPLICATIONS.  google.com is a website, salesforce.com is an
application. you do not need a framework to build a web site.

I realize that people like the Swing framework for application building; I

do to, it's quite fun to work with. But this isn't desktop application
development, this is web application development. I've yet to see a website
built to act like a desktop application that wasn't slow, buggy, broken in
many browsers, convoluted and hard to use or any combination of these.



this isnt about building web applications that behave like desktop
applications. this is about bringing the programming model of desktop
applications to the we applications.

the programming model offered by servlets/jsp is utter crap. it is so
divergent from the programming model offered by swing and friends that there
are programmers that code java desktop apps that cant code java web apps,
and viceversa. why should that be so? why can i not reuse my java knowledge
to build web apps? why can i not use OO which is the central princimple of
java to build java webapps? this is what it is all about.



This is one of the reasons that Rails is so successful. It doesn't try to
redefine how websites are made, it simply makes it easier to follow the
paradigms that have been in play for 15+ years.



there are plenty of java frameworks that do this. struts, maverick, blah
blah, and the lot of the mvc frameworks. even some that are modern and clean
like stripes.

i would like you to support the statement that rails is successful with some
sort of proof/statistics. otherwise its just flame bait and makes you look
bad.

Now please don't take this as a bash towards Wicket,




no one will, you have shown that you do not understand what wicket is all
about, so your bashing wouldn't be credible :)

I'm just trying to understand why Java web frameworks are what they are and

why people aren't creating frameworks that make it easier and simpler to do
what people have been doing for years. Is it because of Java itself? the
Java community? Sun Microsystems? IBM WebSphere? What do you think?



i think you are confused :)

-igor


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Re: [Wicket-user] Creating Entire Forms in Java Code Only?

 In one aspect it is a part of learning a library, on the other hand it fits
 in with what I'm wondering: why the basic assumptions of building a web site
 keep getting thrown out of the window with every new Java web framework. I
 realize that people like the Swing framework for application building; I do
 to, it's quite fun to work with. But this isn't desktop application
 development, this is web application development. I've yet to see a website
 built to act like a desktop application that wasn't slow, buggy, broken in
 many browsers, convoluted and hard to use or any combination of these.

Blame the millions of users who disagree with you, and who use those
buggy broken web apps daily.

Also, note that it's about programming just as much. I don't know how
happy you were using plain JSP or model 2 frameworks like Struts etc,
but I encountered *serious* problems for building anything other than
the most trivial app. No reuse, not much options for partitioning work
amongst developers (and designers), hacks and code duplication all
over the place. Wicket is trying to solve such issues, and in my -
biased - experience it does a better job at that than I even expected
in the first place. For the first time since I've been developing web
apps the prospect of refactoring doesn't panic the entire team.

 This is one of the reasons that Rails is so successful.

Oh, common'. Rails is mostly successful by PHP converts etc. I have
heard quite a few stories of people who 'came back' to Java after a
one-time experiment. I'm using Ruby regularly for sysadmin/ build
scripts kind of stuff, and it's nice for that, but personally, I
wouldn't want to use it for anything non-trivial in a million years.
Just my opinion though.

 It doesn't try to redefine how websites are made, it simply makes it easier 
 to follow the
 paradigms that have been in play for 15+ years.

Well, from what I've seen Rails sucks. Really. I find it ugly to look
at (JSP 1-ish), hardly has any abstraction and is all focussed on
short-term productivity gain. I'm way more interested in long term
gain (reuse, refactorability etc) and a good set of abstractions. I've
stated this in various TSS threads, but what many people in my humble
opinion don't seem to 'get' about OO is that it is as much about the
abstractions (like the names, how classses relate to each other etc)
than it is about the ability to create flexible software.

 Now please don't take this as a bash towards Wicket, I'm just trying to 
 understand why Java web
 frameworks are what they are and why people aren't creating frameworks that
 make it easier and simpler to do what people have been doing for years.

Well, you are mailing to a user list of a Java framework. This kind of
discussion would better be had on TSS or similar sites. However, I
don't mind discussing stuff like this here (though it gets tiring to
have it again and again), just expect very straightforward answers
back.

Eelco

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On 4/11/07, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Well, from what I've seen Rails sucks. Really. I find it ugly to look
at (JSP 1-ish), hardly has any abstraction and is all focussed on
short-term productivity gain. I'm way more interested in long term
gain (reuse, refactorability etc) and a good set of abstractions. I've
stated this in various TSS threads, but what many people in my humble
opinion don't seem to 'get' about OO is that it is as much about the
abstractions (like the names, how classses relate to each other etc)
than it is about the ability to create flexible software.



i want to see you build a blog using java in 15 minutes! i dare you. no i
double dog dare you! you cant, can you? yeah, thats what i thought. java
does suck indeed. nevermind that ruby is a write-only language.

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Re: [Wicket-user] 2 issues with RefreshingView : ERROR - RequestCycle - Index: 0 and submit button present too many times

Alternatively, you can open up an issue in JIRA and attach it there.

Eelco

On 4/11/07, ZedroS Schwart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi again


 I've done a demo application for the issue (bug ?). I've spotted its
 appear when I add my template page (otherwise it's working).

 The demo app does 5Mo, so it won't go through the mailing list. So I
 send it directly to you Igor, I hope you won't mind.

 If anyone else would like it, just let me know.

 ZedroS


 On 4/11/07, ZedroS Schwart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Igor
 
  I've played with it again regarding the multiple ajax submit buttons
  and I've noticed the following behavior :
  - this issue is only happening on Firefox (more precisely :
  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.8.1.3)
  Gecko/20070309 Firefox/2.0.0.3). On Internet Explorer 6 SP2 it's
  working fine.
  - this issue only appears when I add the panel to my form. I've
  emptied my panel and it's still the same issue.
 
  BTW, I'm working on Wicket 1.3.
 
  If needed, I wouldn't mind sending my code to let you play with it.
  I've started to do a issue demo app but it takes time.
 
  ZedroS
  On 4/10/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   not really, its a complex hierarchy and if i was going to debug it i would
   have to recreate it myself.
  
   -igor
  
  
   On 4/10/07, ZedroS Schwart  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I agree that the current modelisation is quite complex. Quickly, it's
the following : my page has a form, let's call it form Form1. This
form in fact inherits an Ajax form. This Ajax form add the Ajax
submit button, an AjaxIndicator image and define the feedbackpanel.
   
In Form1, I add two textfields with theirs borders and then a panel.
This panel, called Panel1, contains a form and, added to this form,
the RefreshingView. On the RefreshingView populateItem(...) I add two
Labels and then the ActionPanel containing my 2 links.
   
BTW, when the page renders for the first time, the row containing my
ajax submit button is black. That's really weird since nowhere I've
asked for it to be black... The added ajax submit buttons are added on
a line above, one next to the other(s).
   
Does it help you ?
   
I'm going to dig deeper to see if I can do a quickstart for you to
reproduce it (or to narrow my issue my removing non necessary stuff).
   
Thanks again igor
   
ZedroS
   
   
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Re: [Wicket-user] treetable with table markup

2007-04-11 Thread Matej Knopp

Well, the thing with tree items can seem hacky, but there are multiple
things to consider. While the tree is hierarchical structure, the
rendered html must be linear, to be able to construct table-like
markup.

-Matej

On 4/11/07, Andrew Klochkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew Klochkov wrote:
Matej Knopp wrote:

I looked through AbstractTree.updateTree code, but didn't find any
special magic to insert new rows.. Please help!

I found that special magic and there is A LOT of it :-((( First, it's in
TreeItem.onRender - old item renders itself and all new items below it.
And second, there's a hack in the Markup class:

Arrg :((( I'll try to use decimal id's... Wicket is not so perfect
as it looks at the first glance :(

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Re: [Wicket-user] wicket-example/pub/goChinese is broken - Home_zh_CN.html


How about:

?xml encoding=UTF-8?
html xmlns:wicket=http://wicket.apache.org/;
head
   titleWicket Examples - pub/title
   meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8/

That way, you can put 您的最佳选择 directly in your template.

Java 5 supports xml properties file with different encodings.
Unfortunately, we can't support this with this version of Wicket, as
that would break backwards compat. However, if someone is willing to
deliver a patch to load xml properties files like Java 5 does, we can
support that so that you can maintain messages directly rather than
having to use escaped code.

Eelco

On 4/11/07, Tony Fu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The header of Home_zh_CN.html should be:



html xmlns:wicket=http://wicket.sourceforge.net/;

head

titleWicket Examples - pub/title

meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=gb2312/

link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=style.css/

/head


instead of



?xml encoding=GBK?

!--It is useful for input the right info when the server run on the
linux--

html xmlns:wicket=http://wicket.sourceforge.net/;

head

titleWicket Examples - pub/title

meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=gb2312/

link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=style.css/

/head

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Re: [Wicket-user] Form macro-component

2007-04-11 Thread Carlos Pita

I worked out this easier and cleanse way to wrap the model of the
outer component:

public DateComponent(String id) {
this(id, null);
}

public DateComponent(String id, IModel model) {
   super(id, model);
}

public IModel getModel() {
return new CompoundPropertyModel(super.getModel());
}

protected IModel initModel() {
return new PropertyModel(getParent().getModel(), getId());
}

Namely, initModel and getModel work in tandem. If model is initialized
with null, initModel() will lazy-initialize it as the parent's model
evaluated in the DateComponent id. In any case (model null initialized
or not) getModel will wrap the resultant model into a
CompoundPropertyModel. So inside DateComponent you could create, say,
a year field simply as new TextField(year).

Cheers,
Carlos



On 4/10/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 looks good without actually running the code :)

 -igor


 On 4/9/07, Carlos Pita [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  Well, here is what I've done based on your suggestions. Please review
  this and tell me if it can be improved, if you are so kind:
 
  1)  An inherited model that looks into the passed model. If it's not
  null it returns a propertymodel for the component id a la
  CompoundPropertyModel. If it's null it returns a propertymodel for the
  parent's model with the full path of the component. So inside my panel
  I can add form components as add(new TextField(month,
  Integer.class)) independently of the model passed (null or a real
  date)
 
  private class MyModel extends Model implements IComponentInheritedModel {
   
  public IWrapModel wrapOnInheritance(Component component) {
  final IModel wrappedModel;
  if (model == null) {
  IModel parentModel =
 DatePanel.this.getParent().getModel();
  String path = DatePanel.this.getParent().getId() + .
  + component.getId();
  wrappedModel = new PropertyModel(parentModel, path);
  } else {
  wrappedModel = new PropertyModel(model,
 component.getId());
  }
  return new AbstractWrapModel() {
  public IModel getWrappedModel() { return wrappedModel;
  }
  };
  }
  }
 
  2) To have control on when children are really validated and their
  models updated:
 
  public boolean processChildren() { return false; }
 
  3) A DatePanel validator that first validate its fields (so they are
  converted too) and finally do global validation (validateDate()). Note
  that individual validators can do global validation do, depending on
  whether the validation was ajax-triggered or not, so validateDate()
  will occur depending on the value of the validateDate flag (true for
  ajax-validation, false for individual validators during submit
  validation). Notice that validateOnNullValue() must return true or
  this validator won't be invoked.
 
add(new AbstractValidator() {
  protected void onValidate(IValidatable validatable) {
  validateDate = false;
  yearField.validate();
  monthField.validate ();
  dayField.validate();
  validateDate = true;
  if (!(yearField.hasErrorMessage() ||
  monthField.hasErrorMessage() || dayField.hasErrorMessage())) {
  validateDate();
  }
  }
  public boolean validateOnNullValue() { return true; }
  });
 
  4) updateModel. Just delegate to fields.
 
  public void updateModel() {
   dayField.updateModel();
  monthField.updateModel();
  yearField.updateModel();
  }
 
  Thank you in advance.
  Best regards,
  Carlos
 
 
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Re: [Wicket-user] Classloader for selectively reload web tier

2007-04-11 Thread Carlos Pita

Up till now my experience with ReloadingWicketServlet has been
idyllic. It worked fine for every single change I've done to java
sources, property resources and templates, playing at home and working
at the office. It's a life-saver (it's giving me at least an extra
free hour per day :) ). Thanks Jean Baptiste, great work!

Regards,
Carlos

On 4/8/07, cowwoc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not sure it's that easy or else they would have done it. In any
 case you should probably post to their forum instead of here :)

 Gili

 Johan Compagner wrote:
  sun should first improve the method change/delete/rename/add thing that
  ibm already can do.
  That shouldn't be to hard because the internal memory of the instance
  doesn't have to be changed then
 
  After that i think what they should try to do is have a depricated
  class version of something
  So all instances that are currently in the vm just stay that way and use
  the old class version
  only new instances are created with the new class version.
  This does result in strange problems of course like class cast exceptions
  and how should an instance of check work then on an old and new instance?
 
  johan
 
 
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  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Seems there might not be a full-proof fix for this problem:
   http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=572396tstart=0
  http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=572396tstart=0
 
  But at least they're working on it, and any improvement would be
  welcome imo.
 
  Eelco
 
  
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Re: [Wicket-user] Creating Entire Forms in Java Code Only?

2007-04-11 Thread Philip Weaver


I started this thread because I wish Wicket would support the following
feature.

I wish that each form or form element element had a default renderer and
would render itself without needing to be embedded in some other html file.
If layout is a problem - find a solution. I wish that Wicket had a higher
level of componentry which could be directed purely and simply by/in Java
code alone. This was a how-to question - but perhaps now it is a feature
request.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Creating Entire Forms in Java Code Only?


i thought you were using Click?

anyways, what you want is possible, like ive mentioned, but is not the
primary focus of wicket. wicket is about separation of concerns. that means
letting the designers design the markup with all its pretty css and images,
rather then making developers try to reproduce that markup via layout
managers ala swing.

what you want is not our priority so it will probably never make it into
core project unless one of core developers writes it up and maintains it.

like i said take a look at bean panels, what you want is pretty simple to
achieve with a bit of work. let me give you a short example.

class textfieldpanel extends panel {
public textfieldpanel(string id, imodel model) {
 super(id);
 add(new textfield(tf, model));
}
}

wicket:panelinput wicket:id=tf type=text//wicket:panel

class checkboxpanel extends panel {
public checkboxpanel(string id, imodel model) {
 super(id);
 add(new checkbox(cb, model));
}
}

wicket:panelinput wicket:id=cb type=checkbox//wicket:panel



now in your page

Form form=new Form(form);
add(form);
RepeatingView items=new RepeatingView(items);
form.add(items);
items.add(new textfieldpanel(items.newchildid(), ..));
items.add(new checkboxpanel(items.newchildid(), ..));

and in markup
form wicket:id=formspan wicket:id=items/span/form

that is pretty close to what you want. you can then start adding labels to
your checkbox/textfield panels to add labels, etc


-igor


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I started this thread because I wish Wicket would support the following
feature.

I wish that each form or form element element had a default renderer and
would render itself without needing to be embedded in some other html file.
If layout is a problem - find a solution. I wish that Wicket had a higher
level of componentry which could be directed purely and simply by/in Java
code alone. This was a how-to question - but perhaps now it is a feature
request.

Phil

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Re: [Wicket-user] Creating Entire Forms in Java Code Only?

2007-04-11 Thread Philip Weaver


Thanks, Igor, for taking the effort to answer my question. I so understand
that one of the core vision statements is separation of concerns. I am
evaluating Click but haven't ruled out Wicket - just that some aspects of
Click seem less cumbersome because separation of concerns is not a priority
there - Click seems to suit what I need better than what Eelco had suggested
much earier: Echo.

Thanks for your time,
Phil

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i thought you were using Click?

anyways, what you want is possible, like ive mentioned, but is not the
primary focus of wicket. wicket is about separation of concerns. that means
letting the designers design the markup with all its pretty css and images,
rather then making developers try to reproduce that markup via layout
managers ala swing.

what you want is not our priority so it will probably never make it into
core project unless one of core developers writes it up and maintains it.

like i said take a look at bean panels, what you want is pretty simple to
achieve with a bit of work. let me give you a short example.

class textfieldpanel extends panel {
public textfieldpanel(string id, imodel model) {
  super(id);
  add(new textfield(tf, model));
}
}

wicket:panelinput wicket:id=tf type=text//wicket:panel

class checkboxpanel extends panel {
public checkboxpanel(string id, imodel model) {
  super(id);
  add(new checkbox(cb, model));
}
}

wicket:panelinput wicket:id=cb type=checkbox//wicket:panel



now in your page

Form form=new Form(form);
add(form);
RepeatingView items=new RepeatingView(items);
form.add(items);
items.add(new textfieldpanel(items.newchildid(), ..));
items.add(new checkboxpanel(items.newchildid(), ..));

and in markup
form wicket:id=formspan wicket:id=items/span/form

that is pretty close to what you want. you can then start adding labels to
your checkbox/textfield panels to add labels, etc


-igor


On 4/11/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I started this thread because I wish Wicket would support the following
 feature.

 I wish that each form or form element element had a default renderer and
 would render itself without needing to be embedded in some other html file.
 If layout is a problem - find a solution. I wish that Wicket had a higher
 level of componentry which could be directed purely and simply by/in Java
 code alone. This was a how-to question - but perhaps now it is a feature
 request.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Creating Entire Forms in Java Code Only?

2007-04-11 Thread Philip Weaver


Inlined...

On 4/11/07, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I wish that each form or form element element had a default renderer and
 would render itself without needing to be embedded in some other html
file.

Yep, gotcha.

 If layout is a problem - find a solution.

It isn't a problem. It's a core assumption that Wicket works on
markup: 'enabling component-oriented, programmatic manipulation of
markup'.



I understand. I also understand Wicket's core vision includes separation of
concerns.

Also, since you think Click answers what you are looking for, I wonder

how this is so different?

Java:
Form form = new Form();
textField = new TextField(search);
form.add(textField);
Select typeSelect = new Select(type);
typeSelect.addAll(new String[] {ID, Name, Age});
typeSelect.setValue(Name);
form.add(typeSelect);

Html:
$form.startTag()
bCustomer/b ${form.fields.search}${form.fields.type}${form.fields.go}
$form.endTag()



I'll assume that the $ signs are Velocity tags and you are refering to
Click. Yes, Click does integrate Velocity tags - but for the most part you
won't have to use them. If you create a form for example in Click, it
renders the entire form and its components for you and layout is
customizable via a set of flags and via CSS. Everything is coded in Java,
has default renders, and is customizable.

Besides whether that's better than how Wicket does it or not, you

really are referring to those components in HTML right?



To some extent perhaps. But the title of this thread is Creating Entire
Forms in Java Code Only? Click does create and render all forms in code
(without Velocity) using default rendering which is customizable. Perhaps
Click just needs more configurability is its layout component for general
use. Click also renders table automatically. Click also supports Panels.

I recommended Echo (and GWT if you like) as there you work with layout

managers rather than with markup. I thought that's what you wanted
being a Swing guy. So I was surpised to learn you thought about Click
now (though there's nothing wrong with that of course).



I don't mind working with HTML markup. But object-oriented programming
languages like Java can allow us to abstract away from the tedium and
cumbersomeness of rendering html; e.g. encapsulation.



If you mean that you prefer components to directly spit out HTML,
that's very easy with Wicket, just like:

protected void onComponentTagBody(MarkupStream markupStream,
ComponentTag openTag) {
  getResponse().write(foobarudududud/bar/foo);
}

etc. But like we stated before, this wouldn't be the recommended way
of working with Wicket. More of a break out option and optimization.



I understand. Thanks. One of Rail's mantra is convention over configuration.
Being able to render default HTML for common types of controls seems
conventional - it seems less cumbersome. I am not disrespecting Wicket - I
appreciate Wicket but I wish that it were less cumbersome to use for UI
programmers.

Eelco


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