Re: [Wicket-user] Using Wicket to develop WAP sites

2007-04-10 Thread Ashish Shrestha
Thank you to all those who contributed. I think may be I will end up 
with WML components if I do work on it.

For now, for the quick prototype/demo, I will be using wurfl and wall 
(http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/java/wall.php and 
http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/java/tutorial.php)

Will be monitoring 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WICKET/Mobile+Devices for 
more information.

Also found this useful http://www.passani.it/gap/

Thank you again for all the information. Will use Wicket on a more 
'standard' web application for now.

Ashish
Iulian Costan wrote:
 hey Ashish,
 
 i did some research in this field long time back; unfortunately i failed 
 and i gave up at one point but at least i can share my experience.
 
 here are few key points as far as i can see them:
 - first of all you'll deal with 3 versions of markup: WML1.0, XHTML-MP, HTML
 - figure out what are your target devices from the very beginning, if 
 the site needs to work on all mobile devices out there then good luck buddy.
 - you need a very well designed site design, designer needs to keep in 
 mind that same content will be rendered in 3 formats, for devices with 
 very very very different capabilities.
 - the component hierarchy in all 3 markups has to match, but in WML1.0 
 will display only 10% of all components so there will be a isVisible vs. 
 isNotVisible playing game. well, you can implement your own 
 rendering/resolving strategies to achieve that.
 - some wicket components are very rich in terms of 
 markup/javascript/css, you have to implement your own WML components 
 where it is needed, as i said it is very important to have a simple and 
 WML/HTML friendly web design.
 - and last one, even everything is perfect and works fine there is 
 mobile device browsers war. if you can make site to look good in 
 IE/FF/Opera; you'll find out that mobile's browsers are real nightmare; 
 they are so many types with very different capabilities and behaviors;  
 tables are not supported by this specific version, even they say it is, 
 text is not wrapped properly, all kind of resolutions issues ad so on.
 
 if you have time and resources to do it it will be great asset for 
 wicket community and open source community in general. i can say that i 
 couldnt find a good and reliable WML/HTML framework out there. except 
 WURLF that is jsp based and is quite acceptable (but who uses 
 jsp/taglibraries/scriplets these days)  and a give it a try and not 
 supported anymore renderkit from myface jsf framework, there is 
 nothing, really nothing.
 
 /iulian
 
 On 4/5/07, *Ashish Shrestha* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I am currently looking at Wicket and going over the examples. I am
 interested in developing mobile friendly websites. Any one has any
 experience they can share or point me to place where I can get more
 information.
 
 I would like to serve different 'versions' of the page based on the
 capabilities of the mobile phone browser. In the demo, the HTML file is
 named same as the Java class. Can I have different 'version' of HTML
 file based on the mobile capability? Would this be similar to
 internationalisation? How does one do internationalisation with Wicket?
 
 I am planning to use http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/
 http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ to find the
 capability of the mobile browser.
 
 Thank you for any hints, suggestions or pointers.
 Ashish
 
 
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[Wicket-user] Using Wicket to develop WAP sites

2007-04-05 Thread Ashish Shrestha
Hi All,

I am currently looking at Wicket and going over the examples. I am 
interested in developing mobile friendly websites. Any one has any 
experience they can share or point me to place where I can get more 
information.

I would like to serve different 'versions' of the page based on the 
capabilities of the mobile phone browser. In the demo, the HTML file is 
named same as the Java class. Can I have different 'version' of HTML 
file based on the mobile capability? Would this be similar to 
internationalisation? How does one do internationalisation with Wicket?

I am planning to use http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ to find the 
capability of the mobile browser.

Thank you for any hints, suggestions or pointers.
Ashish


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