Re: [Wicket-user] Enterprise application using Wicket
Many thanks for all replies. This will help me get the decision makesr to give Wicket a try. Dave -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Enterprise-application-using-Wicket-t1420394.html#a3852549 Sent from the Wicket - User forum at Nabble.com. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Enterprise application using Wicket
What argument *couldn't* be made? Comparing JSP and Wicket is like night and day...JSP is antiquated technology in comparison.The fact that you can be many more times productive and simultaneously produce clean, manageable code is probably the top-most incentive for using Wicket. A con might be the fact that session-state is used rather heavily. However, in my own benchmarking...Wicket holds up extremely well w/ 100's of simultaneous users (that was while testing Wicket 1.1.1 Hibernate, pulling up several different types of object graphs.) Just my 2c...-vOn 4/9/06, dave723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fortune 50 company where I work is migrating a proprietary webapplication and is tending toward JSP.I'd like to get them to consider Wicket.What persuasive arguments can Imake that would counter the momentum of JSP?Thanks. --View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Enterprise-application-using-Wicket-t1420394.html#a3828769Sent from the Wicket - User forum at Nabble.com.---This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting languagethat extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory!http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Enterprise application using Wicket
Dave, Wicket has built-in hooks to facilitate its use in large, multi-server configurations where load balancing and other scalability considerations are required. You are on pretty solid ground. I cannot speak from experience about how Wicket handles more than 10 or 20 concurrent connections. However, if my applications start to bottleneck when I scale to hundreds of users, I'm confident it will be the result of coding decisions I've made and not those of wicket developers. If you'd like to build a brand new framework and then build your application using it, continue with JSP. However, if you'd like to use a framework where people that understand how web applications work have already done most of the work for you, consider using Wicket. My personal experience with JSP is that an order of magnitude more code in your application yields you an order of magnitude less functionality than you'd have in a much shorter time-frame writing the same application using Wicket. You probably won't be able to show management this email thread and have them re-direct the project toward Wicket use. However, take a few hours and write the same thing it's taking the JSP people weeks to deliver and they'll be sold. This is something about which I can speak from experience. Good luck! --Kurt Vincent Jenks wrote: What argument *couldn't* be made? Comparing JSP and Wicket is like night and day...JSP is antiquated technology in comparison. The fact that you can be many more times productive and simultaneously produce clean, manageable code is probably the top-most incentive for using Wicket. A con might be the fact that session-state is used rather heavily. However, in my own benchmarking...Wicket holds up extremely well w/ 100's of simultaneous users (that was while testing Wicket 1.1.1 Hibernate, pulling up several different types of object graphs.) Just my 2c... -v On 4/9/06, *dave723* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fortune 50 company where I work is migrating a proprietary web application and is tending toward JSP. I'd like to get them to consider Wicket. What persuasive arguments can I make that would counter the momentum of JSP? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Enterprise-application-using-Wicket-t1420394.html#a3828769 Sent from the Wicket - User forum at Nabble.com http://Nabble.com. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Enterprise application using Wicket
JSP is not included, but here: http://www.virtuas.com/articles/webframework-sweetspots.html is a discussion that might help. Eelco On 4/9/06, dave723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fortune 50 company where I work is migrating a proprietary web application and is tending toward JSP. I'd like to get them to consider Wicket. What persuasive arguments can I make that would counter the momentum of JSP? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Enterprise-application-using-Wicket-t1420394.html#a3828769 Sent from the Wicket - User forum at Nabble.com. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user