Re: [Wicket-user] Enterprise application using Wicket

2006-04-10 Thread dave723

Many thanks for all replies.  This will help me get the decision makesr to
give Wicket a try.

Dave 
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Re: [Wicket-user] Enterprise application using Wicket

2006-04-09 Thread Vincent Jenks
What argument *couldn't* be made? Comparing JSP and Wicket is like night and day...JSP is antiquated technology in comparison.The fact that you can be many more times productive and simultaneously produce clean, manageable code is probably the top-most incentive for using Wicket.
A con might be the fact that session-state is used rather heavily. However, in my own benchmarking...Wicket holds up extremely well w/ 100's of simultaneous users (that was while testing Wicket 1.1.1  Hibernate, pulling up several different types of object graphs.)
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The Fortune 50 company where I work is migrating a proprietary webapplication and is tending toward JSP.I'd like to get them to consider Wicket.What persuasive arguments can Imake that would counter the momentum of JSP?Thanks.
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Re: [Wicket-user] Enterprise application using Wicket

2006-04-09 Thread kurt heston

Dave,

Wicket has built-in hooks to facilitate its use in large, multi-server 
configurations where load balancing and other scalability considerations 
are required.  You are on pretty solid ground.


I cannot speak from experience about how Wicket handles more than 10 or 
20 concurrent connections.  However, if my applications start to 
bottleneck when I scale to hundreds of users, I'm confident it will be 
the result of coding decisions I've made and not those of wicket developers.


If you'd like to build a brand new framework and then build your 
application using it, continue with JSP.  However, if you'd like to use 
a framework where people that understand how web applications work have 
already done most of the work for you, consider using Wicket.  My 
personal experience with JSP is that an order of magnitude more code in 
your application yields you an order of magnitude less functionality 
than you'd have in a much shorter time-frame writing the same 
application using Wicket.


You probably won't be able to show management this email thread and have 
them re-direct the project toward Wicket use.  However, take a few hours 
and write the same thing it's taking the JSP people weeks to deliver and 
they'll be sold.  This is something about which I can speak from experience.


Good luck!

--Kurt

Vincent Jenks wrote:
What argument *couldn't* be made?  Comparing JSP and Wicket is like 
night and day...JSP is antiquated technology in comparison.


The fact that you can be many more times productive and simultaneously 
produce clean, manageable code is probably the top-most incentive for 
using Wicket.


A con might be the fact that session-state is used rather heavily.  
However, in my own benchmarking...Wicket holds up extremely well w/ 
100's of simultaneous users (that was while testing Wicket 1.1.1  
Hibernate, pulling up several different types of object graphs.)


Just my 2c...

-v

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The Fortune 50 company where I work is migrating a proprietary web
application and is tending toward JSP.

I'd like to get them to consider Wicket.  What persuasive
arguments can I
make that would counter the momentum of JSP?  Thanks.
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Re: [Wicket-user] Enterprise application using Wicket

2006-04-09 Thread Eelco Hillenius
JSP is not included, but here:
http://www.virtuas.com/articles/webframework-sweetspots.html is a
discussion that might help.

Eelco

On 4/9/06, dave723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Fortune 50 company where I work is migrating a proprietary web
 application and is tending toward JSP.

 I'd like to get them to consider Wicket.  What persuasive arguments can I
 make that would counter the momentum of JSP?  Thanks.
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