Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart
Op vrijdag 06-04-2007 om 13:18 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Philip Weaver: I am interested in helping to improve the Quickstart download. I would be more pleased if the quickstart first presented a generic quickstart with NetBeans, Idea, and Eclipse as additional setups. The QuickStart should at the least illustrate how to get Wicket up and running manually (script for lauching, etc) I can set all of this up myself but help will make it quicker and more pleasing. :-) Here's a small data point, if it helps. I tried following the instructions on http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-quickstart/netbeans.html to get the wicket quickstart 1.2.6 running. However, I didn't succeed. First, I tried to create a new project from existing source. Netbeans warned me that build.xml would be overwritten. So then I tried to create it from an existing build script. This worked, but there was no Run project target present so I couldn't run the project as described. I tried the test target but that failed too, as there was no test directory. As far as I can tell, the Quickstart instructions are totally out of sync with the actual code... regards, -- Reinout van Schouwen - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart
Well, isn't that just what mvn jetty:run gives you? :-) talking about quickstart and mvn jetty:run: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-455 Martin - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart
Why not opening an issue on JIRA with the required patch to build.xml? And about the documentation, it's in Confluence, right? -- Jean-Baptiste Quenot aka John Banana Qwerty http://caraldi.com/jbq/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart
Hi Philip, Saturday, April 7, 2007, 1:24:33 AM, you wrote: In summary, the intent of the QuickStart with a bundled Jetty is fabulous. However, I feel that it falls short by only offering means to run the project using NetBeans, IDEA, or Eclipse. And I think this is a little disappointing. I happen to use jEdit - so I think it's a little annoying that the QuickStart doesn't have generic instructions or, say, a "java" target immediately in the build file. Well, isn't that just what "mvn jetty:run" gives you? :-) We're open to patches if you feel that the Ant script could be extended though, but as far as the IDEs go, they're not one's that we're explictly decided upon, just the ones that there are Maven plugins for (that we're aware of) that generate the respective IDE-specific project files. -- Best regards, Gwyn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart
The difficulty I faced was perhaps more of a documentation issue. It seems like the QuickStart documentation assumes that the user is using IDEA, Eclipse, or NetBeans and also assumes that the user is already has Maven installed. The only reference I have found so far to Maven in in the change log page. So IMO the documentation basically needs another document on how to build and run the QuickStart from Ant or Maven using any IDE. More users are likely to have Ant installed than Maven I would guess. The Ant build file which is already included just needs an execute target with java command - that's what I do. But regardless, the QuickStart docs need a generic setup document which does not assume that Maven is installed. On 4/7/07, Gwyn Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Philip, Saturday, April 7, 2007, 1:24:33 AM, you wrote: In summary, the intent of the QuickStart with a bundled Jetty is fabulous. However, I feel that it falls short by only offering means to run the project using NetBeans, IDEA, or Eclipse. And I think this is a little disappointing. I happen to use jEdit - so I think it's a little annoying that the QuickStart doesn't have generic instructions or, say, a java target immediately in the build file. Well, isn't that just what mvn jetty:run gives you? :-) We're open to patches if you feel that the Ant script could be extended though, but as far as the IDEs go, they're not one's that we're explictly decided upon, just the ones that there are Maven plugins for (that we're aware of) that generate the respective IDE-specific project files. -- Best regards, Gwynmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart
Can anyone send me pointers for setting up quickstart manually? (scripts, build file w/ exec, etc) Who to talk to to create a generic quickstart setup document? I am interested in helping to improve the Quickstart download. I would be more pleased if the quickstart first presented a generic quickstart with NetBeans, Idea, and Eclipse as additional setups. The QuickStart should at the least illustrate how to get Wicket up and running manually (script for lauching, etc) I can set all of this up myself but help will make it quicker and more pleasing. :-) Thanks. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart
in quickstart you can do mvn eclipse:eclipse to generate an eclipse project, or mvn idea:idea for idea. you can writeup a document on the wiki, and if we all like it we can export it into quickstart's readme or something like that -igor On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone send me pointers for setting up quickstart manually? (scripts, build file w/ exec, etc) Who to talk to to create a generic quickstart setup document? I am interested in helping to improve the Quickstart download. I would be more pleased if the quickstart first presented a generic quickstart with NetBeans, Idea, and Eclipse as additional setups. The QuickStart should at the least illustrate how to get Wicket up and running manually (script for lauching, etc) I can set all of this up myself but help will make it quicker and more pleasing. :-) Thanks. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart
In summary, the intent of the QuickStart with a bundled Jetty is fabulous. However, I feel that it falls short by only offering means to run the project using NetBeans, IDEA, or Eclipse. And I think this is a little disappointing. I happen to use jEdit - so I think it's a little annoying that the QuickStart doesn't have generic instructions or, say, a java target immediately in the build file. Just one of the selling points of Wicket that attracts me is no XML/configuration files. This QuickStart has several and none of them are generic enough to run the QuickStart from the ant build file using java. I even consider Ant to use XML configuration files and I think Ant should die. Hehe. I'll work all of this out and will add to the wiki. Let me know if anyone can send me anything to help me out. I hate ant and I hate configuring stuff - just want to play with Wicket. Thanks, Phil On 4/6/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in quickstart you can do mvn eclipse:eclipse to generate an eclipse project, or mvn idea:idea for idea. you can writeup a document on the wiki, and if we all like it we can export it into quickstart's readme or something like that -igor On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone send me pointers for setting up quickstart manually? (scripts, build file w/ exec, etc) Who to talk to to create a generic quickstart setup document? I am interested in helping to improve the Quickstart download. I would be more pleased if the quickstart first presented a generic quickstartwith NetBeans, Idea, and Eclipse as additional setups. The QuickStart should at the least illustrate how to get Wicket up and running manually (script for lauching, etc) I can set all of this up myself but help will make it quicker and more pleasing. :-) Thanks. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart
Basically, would be nice if instructions as simple as the following were part of the build file: target name=execute java classname=wicket.quickstart.Start fork=true failonerror=true maxmemory=128m classpathref=build.classpath classpath path refid=build.classpath/path pathelement path=${build.main.classes}/pathelement /classpath /java /target I'll see if I can add something to the wiki - but I want to play now. On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In summary, the intent of the QuickStart with a bundled Jetty is fabulous. However, I feel that it falls short by only offering means to run the project using NetBeans, IDEA, or Eclipse. And I think this is a little disappointing. I happen to use jEdit - so I think it's a little annoying that the QuickStart doesn't have generic instructions or, say, a java target immediately in the build file. Just one of the selling points of Wicket that attracts me is no XML/configuration files. This QuickStart has several and none of them are generic enough to run the QuickStart from the ant build file using java. I even consider Ant to use XML configuration files and I think Ant should die. Hehe. I'll work all of this out and will add to the wiki. Let me know if anyone can send me anything to help me out. I hate ant and I hate configuring stuff - just want to play with Wicket. Thanks, Phil On 4/6/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in quickstart you can do mvn eclipse:eclipse to generate an eclipse project, or mvn idea:idea for idea. you can writeup a document on the wiki, and if we all like it we can export it into quickstart's readme or something like that -igor On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone send me pointers for setting up quickstart manually? (scripts, build file w/ exec, etc) Who to talk to to create a generic quickstart setup document? I am interested in helping to improve the Quickstart download. I would be more pleased if the quickstart first presented a generic quickstartwith NetBeans, Idea, and Eclipse as additional setups. The QuickStart should at the least illustrate how to get Wicket up and running manually (script for lauching, etc) I can set all of this up myself but help will make it quicker and more pleasing. :-) Thanks. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart
Patches are always welcome at: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET Eelco On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, would be nice if instructions as simple as the following were part of the build file: target name=execute java classname=wicket.quickstart.Start fork=true failonerror=true maxmemory=128m classpathref= build.classpath classpath path refid=build.classpath/path pathelement path=${build.main.classes}/pathelement /classpath /java /target I'll see if I can add something to the wiki - but I want to play now. On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In summary, the intent of the QuickStart with a bundled Jetty is fabulous. However, I feel that it falls short by only offering means to run the project using NetBeans, IDEA, or Eclipse. And I think this is a little disappointing. I happen to use jEdit - so I think it's a little annoying that the QuickStart doesn't have generic instructions or, say, a java target immediately in the build file. Just one of the selling points of Wicket that attracts me is no XML/configuration files. This QuickStart has several and none of them are generic enough to run the QuickStart from the ant build file using java. I even consider Ant to use XML configuration files and I think Ant should die. Hehe. I'll work all of this out and will add to the wiki. Let me know if anyone can send me anything to help me out. I hate ant and I hate configuring stuff - just want to play with Wicket. Thanks, Phil On 4/6/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in quickstart you can do mvn eclipse:eclipse to generate an eclipse project, or mvn idea:idea for idea. you can writeup a document on the wiki, and if we all like it we can export it into quickstart's readme or something like that -igor On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone send me pointers for setting up quickstart manually? (scripts, build file w/ exec, etc) Who to talk to to create a generic quickstart setup document? I am interested in helping to improve the Quickstart download. I would be more pleased if the quickstart first presented a generic quickstart with NetBeans, Idea, and Eclipse as additional setups. The QuickStart should at the least illustrate how to get Wicket up and running manually (script for lauching, etc) I can set all of this up myself but help will make it quicker and more pleasing. :-) Thanks. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user