Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart

2007-05-21 Thread Reinout van Schouwen
Op vrijdag 06-04-2007 om 13:18 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Philip
Weaver:

 I am interested in helping to improve the Quickstart download. I would
 be more pleased if the quickstart first presented a  generic
 quickstart with NetBeans, Idea, and Eclipse as additional setups. The
 QuickStart should at the least illustrate how to get Wicket up and
 running manually (script for lauching, etc)
 
 I can set all of this up myself but help will make it quicker and more
 pleasing. :-) 


Here's a small data point, if it helps.

I tried following the instructions on
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-quickstart/netbeans.html to get the
wicket quickstart 1.2.6 running. However, I didn't succeed. First, I
tried to create a new project from existing source. Netbeans warned me
that build.xml would be overwritten. So then I tried to create it from
an existing build script. This worked, but there was no Run project
target present so I couldn't run the project as described. I tried the
test target but that failed too, as there was no test directory. 

As far as I can tell, the Quickstart instructions are totally out of
sync with the actual code...

regards,

-- 
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Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart

2007-04-09 Thread Martin Funk

 Well, isn't that just what mvn jetty:run gives you? :-)

talking about quickstart and mvn jetty:run:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-455

Martin

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Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart

2007-04-08 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
Why not opening an issue on JIRA with the required patch to
build.xml?  And about the documentation, it's in Confluence,
right?
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Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart

2007-04-07 Thread Gwyn Evans




Hi Philip,

Saturday, April 7, 2007, 1:24:33 AM, you wrote:








In summary, the intent of the QuickStart with a bundled Jetty is fabulous. However, I feel that it falls short by only offering means to run the project using NetBeans, IDEA, or Eclipse. And I think this is a little disappointing. I happen to use jEdit - so I think it's a little annoying that the QuickStart doesn't have generic instructions or, say, a "java" target immediately in the build file.





Well, isn't that just what "mvn jetty:run" gives you? :-)

We're open to patches if you feel that the Ant script could be extended though, but as far as the IDEs go, they're not one's that we're explictly decided upon, just the ones that there are Maven plugins for (that we're aware of) that generate the respective IDE-specific project files.

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Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart

2007-04-07 Thread Philip Weaver

The difficulty I faced was perhaps more of a documentation issue. It seems
like the QuickStart documentation assumes that the user is using IDEA,
Eclipse, or NetBeans and also assumes that the user is already has Maven
installed. The only reference I have found so far to Maven in in the change
log page.

So IMO the documentation basically needs another document on how to build
and run the QuickStart from Ant or Maven using any IDE. More users are
likely to have Ant installed than Maven I would guess. The Ant build file
which is already included just needs an execute target with java command -
that's what I do. But regardless, the QuickStart docs need a generic setup
document which does not assume that Maven is installed.

On 4/7/07, Gwyn Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi Philip,


Saturday, April 7, 2007, 1:24:33 AM, you wrote:


  

In summary, the intent of the QuickStart with a bundled Jetty is fabulous.
However, I feel that it falls short by only offering means to run the
project using NetBeans, IDEA, or Eclipse. And I think this is a little
disappointing. I happen to use jEdit - so I think it's a little annoying
that the QuickStart doesn't have generic instructions or, say, a java
target immediately in the build file.


Well, isn't that just what mvn jetty:run gives you? :-)


We're open to patches if you feel that the Ant script could be extended
though, but as far as the IDEs go, they're not one's that we're explictly
decided upon, just the ones that there are Maven plugins for (that we're
aware of) that generate the respective IDE-specific project files.


--

Best regards,

 Gwynmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart

2007-04-06 Thread Philip Weaver

Can anyone send me pointers for setting up quickstart manually? (scripts,
build file w/ exec, etc)
Who to talk to to create a generic quickstart setup document?

I am interested in helping to improve the Quickstart download. I would be
more pleased if the quickstart first presented a generic quickstart with
NetBeans, Idea, and Eclipse as additional setups. The QuickStart should at
the least illustrate how to get Wicket up and running manually (script for
lauching, etc)

I can set all of this up myself but help will make it quicker and more
pleasing. :-)

Thanks.
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Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart

2007-04-06 Thread Igor Vaynberg

in quickstart you can do mvn eclipse:eclipse to generate an eclipse project,
or mvn idea:idea for idea.

you can writeup a document on the wiki, and if we all like it we can export
it into quickstart's readme or something like that

-igor


On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Can anyone send me pointers for setting up quickstart manually? (scripts,
build file w/ exec, etc)
Who to talk to to create a generic quickstart setup document?

I am interested in helping to improve the Quickstart download. I would be
more pleased if the quickstart first presented a generic quickstart with
NetBeans, Idea, and Eclipse as additional setups. The QuickStart should at
the least illustrate how to get Wicket up and running manually (script for
lauching, etc)

I can set all of this up myself but help will make it quicker and more
pleasing. :-)

Thanks.



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Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart

2007-04-06 Thread Philip Weaver

In summary, the intent of the QuickStart with a bundled Jetty is fabulous.
However, I feel that it falls short by only offering means to run the
project using NetBeans, IDEA, or Eclipse. And I think this is a little
disappointing. I happen to use jEdit - so I think it's a little annoying
that the QuickStart doesn't have generic instructions or, say, a java
target immediately in the build file. Just one of the selling points of
Wicket that attracts me is no XML/configuration files. This QuickStart has
several and none of them are generic enough to run the QuickStart from the
ant build file using java. I even consider Ant to use XML configuration
files and I think Ant should die. Hehe.

I'll work all of this out and will add to the wiki. Let me know if anyone
can send me anything to help me out. I hate ant and I hate configuring stuff
- just want to play with Wicket.

Thanks,
Phil

On 4/6/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


in quickstart you can do mvn eclipse:eclipse to generate an eclipse
project, or mvn idea:idea for idea.

you can writeup a document on the wiki, and if we all like it we can
export it into quickstart's readme or something like that

-igor


On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Can anyone send me pointers for setting up quickstart manually?
 (scripts, build file w/ exec, etc)
 Who to talk to to create a generic quickstart setup document?

 I am interested in helping to improve the Quickstart download. I would
 be more pleased if the quickstart first presented a generic quickstartwith 
NetBeans, Idea, and Eclipse as additional setups. The QuickStart should
 at the least illustrate how to get Wicket up and running manually (script
 for lauching, etc)

 I can set all of this up myself but help will make it quicker and more
 pleasing. :-)

 Thanks.




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Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart

2007-04-06 Thread Philip Weaver

Basically, would be nice if instructions as simple as the following were
part of the build file:

   target name=execute
   java classname=wicket.quickstart.Start fork=true
failonerror=true maxmemory=128m classpathref=build.classpath
   classpath
   path refid=build.classpath/path
   pathelement path=${build.main.classes}/pathelement
   /classpath
   /java
   /target

I'll see if I can add something to the wiki - but I want to play now.

On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In summary, the intent of the QuickStart with a bundled Jetty is fabulous.
However, I feel that it falls short by only offering means to run the
project using NetBeans, IDEA, or Eclipse. And I think this is a little
disappointing. I happen to use jEdit - so I think it's a little annoying
that the QuickStart doesn't have generic instructions or, say, a java
target immediately in the build file. Just one of the selling points of
Wicket that attracts me is no XML/configuration files. This QuickStart has
several and none of them are generic enough to run the QuickStart from the
ant build file using java. I even consider Ant to use XML configuration
files and I think Ant should die. Hehe.

I'll work all of this out and will add to the wiki. Let me know if anyone
can send me anything to help me out. I hate ant and I hate configuring stuff
- just want to play with Wicket.

Thanks,
Phil

On 4/6/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 in quickstart you can do mvn eclipse:eclipse to generate an eclipse
 project, or mvn idea:idea for idea.

 you can writeup a document on the wiki, and if we all like it we can
 export it into quickstart's readme or something like that

 -igor


 On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Can anyone send me pointers for setting up quickstart manually?
  (scripts, build file w/ exec, etc)
  Who to talk to to create a generic quickstart setup document?
 
  I am interested in helping to improve the Quickstart download. I would
  be more pleased if the quickstart first presented a generic quickstartwith 
NetBeans, Idea, and Eclipse as additional setups. The QuickStart should
  at the least illustrate how to get Wicket up and running manually (script
  for lauching, etc)
 
  I can set all of this up myself but help will make it quicker and more
  pleasing. :-)
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Wicket-user] Help Me Improve Wicket Quickstart

2007-04-06 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Patches are always welcome at: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET

Eelco


On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Basically, would be nice if instructions as simple as the following were
 part of the build file:

 target name=execute
 java classname=wicket.quickstart.Start fork=true
 failonerror=true maxmemory=128m classpathref= build.classpath
 classpath
 path refid=build.classpath/path
 pathelement path=${build.main.classes}/pathelement
 /classpath
 /java
 /target

 I'll see if I can add something to the wiki - but I want to play now.


 On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In summary, the intent of the QuickStart with a bundled Jetty is fabulous.
 However, I feel that it falls short by only offering means to run the
 project using NetBeans, IDEA, or Eclipse. And I think this is a little
 disappointing. I happen to use jEdit - so I think it's a little annoying
 that the QuickStart doesn't have generic instructions or, say, a java
 target immediately in the build file. Just one of the selling points of
 Wicket that attracts me is no XML/configuration files. This QuickStart has
 several and none of them are generic enough to run the QuickStart from the
 ant build file using java. I even consider Ant to use XML configuration
 files and I think Ant should die. Hehe.
 
  I'll work all of this out and will add to the wiki. Let me know if anyone
 can send me anything to help me out. I hate ant and I hate configuring stuff
 - just want to play with Wicket.
 
  Thanks,
  Phil
 
 
 
  On 4/6/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   in quickstart you can do mvn eclipse:eclipse to generate an eclipse
 project, or mvn idea:idea for idea.
  
   you can writeup a document on the wiki, and if we all like it we can
 export it into quickstart's readme or something like that
  
   -igor
  
  
  
  
   On 4/6/07, Philip Weaver  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
Can anyone send me pointers for setting up quickstart manually?
 (scripts, build file w/ exec, etc)
Who to talk to to create a generic quickstart setup document?
   
I am interested in helping to improve the Quickstart download. I would
 be more pleased if the quickstart first presented a generic quickstart with
 NetBeans, Idea, and Eclipse as additional setups. The QuickStart should at
 the least illustrate how to get Wicket up and running manually (script for
 lauching, etc)
   
I can set all of this up myself but help will make it quicker and more
 pleasing. :-)
   
Thanks.
   
   
   
   
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