Re: [Wicket-user] previewable pages

2006-03-06 Thread Joni Suominen
On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 08:02 -0800, Eelco Hillenius wrote:
> That's a very smart idea! I do think multiple levels are a big deal
> though, otherwise you'll end up with just a half baked thing.
> 
> What kind of support within Wicket itself were you thinking off? And
> could it be useful for the WicketBench Eclipse plugin?

This sounds like a very useful feature. It could be a new tab in the
tabbed editor. Something like he did:

http://www.eclipsezone.com/eclipse/forums/t64801.html

Joni 



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Re: [Wicket-user] previewable pages

2006-03-05 Thread Ryan Sonnek
I have yet to see a real life example where multiple levels of
inheritence is *critical* for an offline preview.  With a little more
CSS work, the preview could use a special background image or color to
emphasize that it's simply a preview.

In order for this to truly be a "wicket feature", i think there are a
few things that can be done.  The first would be to add
"wicket:preview" to the wicket namespace so that the preview will
produce valid XHTML.  If this attribute is promoted to the core wicket
DTD, i think it makes sense for this javascript to be distributed
directly with wicket as well.  Of course some documentation would be
needed too.

If "previewable web pages" is considered a core feature of wicket, i
think a feature like this would be really important to users "out of
the box".

On 3/4/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's a very smart idea! I do think multiple levels are a big deal
> though, otherwise you'll end up with just a half baked thing.
>
> What kind of support within Wicket itself were you thinking off? And
> could it be useful for the WicketBench Eclipse plugin?
>
> Eelco
>
>
> On 3/3/06, Ryan Sonnek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > One of my favorite features in wicket is that the pages are completely
> > previewable in a normal web browser even outside of wicket.  JSP is
> > simply a mess of nested scriptlets and xml and other junk.
> >
> > That being said, I was getting frustrated that I would lose
> > previewable pages when I start extracting components.  Of course
> > extracting components is a good thing for reusability, but it has a
> > pretty big drawback when trying to design pages without seeing the
> > component in preview mode.
> >
> > Well, I'd like to startup a discussion on a wicket feature I wrote up
> > and see if there's any interest for other people.  Basically, I use
> > some AJAX magic to load the component so that you can preview your
> > pages with your components.
> >
> > http://jroller.com/page/wireframe/?anchor=auto_previewable_wicket_pages
> >
> > Please let me know if there's any interest in this.  It definately has
> > reinforced how cool Wicket is!
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> >
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Re: [Wicket-user] previewable pages

2006-03-04 Thread Eelco Hillenius
That's a very smart idea! I do think multiple levels are a big deal
though, otherwise you'll end up with just a half baked thing.

What kind of support within Wicket itself were you thinking off? And
could it be useful for the WicketBench Eclipse plugin?

Eelco


On 3/3/06, Ryan Sonnek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One of my favorite features in wicket is that the pages are completely
> previewable in a normal web browser even outside of wicket.  JSP is
> simply a mess of nested scriptlets and xml and other junk.
>
> That being said, I was getting frustrated that I would lose
> previewable pages when I start extracting components.  Of course
> extracting components is a good thing for reusability, but it has a
> pretty big drawback when trying to design pages without seeing the
> component in preview mode.
>
> Well, I'd like to startup a discussion on a wicket feature I wrote up
> and see if there's any interest for other people.  Basically, I use
> some AJAX magic to load the component so that you can preview your
> pages with your components.
>
> http://jroller.com/page/wireframe/?anchor=auto_previewable_wicket_pages
>
> Please let me know if there's any interest in this.  It definately has
> reinforced how cool Wicket is!
>
> Ryan
>
>
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Re: [Wicket-user] previewable pages

2006-03-04 Thread Ryan Sonnek
adding some css to identify the div as an include isn't a bad idea!

On 3/4/06, Mark Derricutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/4/06, Ryan Sonnek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I'd like to startup a discussion on a wicket feature I wrote up
> > and see if there's any interest for other people.  Basically, I use
> > some AJAX magic to load the component so that you can preview your
> > pages with your components.
> >
>
> Hey there - I saw this (and the subsequent followup post) earlier in my
> javablogs feed - tres cool!  I really need to look into using dojo/behaviour
> and all those funky things more.  My first thought when reading this earlier
> was "whoah cool! rock" :)  I'll have to play with it myself.
>
> Hmmm - I just had a novel idea, how about applying some CSS hackery to the
>  to give it a border and maybe a background/border which identifies it
> as being included or something...
>
> Mark
>
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Re: [Wicket-user] previewable pages

2006-03-04 Thread Mark Derricutt
On 3/4/06, Ryan Sonnek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, I'd like to startup a discussion on a wicket feature I wrote upand see if there's any interest for other people.  Basically, I usesome AJAX magic to load the component so that you can preview yourpages with your components.
Hey there - I saw this (and the subsequent followup post) earlier in my javablogs feed - tres cool!  I really need to look into using dojo/behaviour and all those funky things more.  My first thought when reading this earlier was "whoah cool! rock" :)  I'll have to play with it myself.
Hmmm - I just had a novel idea, how about applying some CSS hackery to the  to give it a border and maybe a background/border which identifies it as being included or something...Mark
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[Wicket-user] previewable pages

2006-03-03 Thread Ryan Sonnek
One of my favorite features in wicket is that the pages are completely
previewable in a normal web browser even outside of wicket.  JSP is
simply a mess of nested scriptlets and xml and other junk.

That being said, I was getting frustrated that I would lose
previewable pages when I start extracting components.  Of course
extracting components is a good thing for reusability, but it has a
pretty big drawback when trying to design pages without seeing the
component in preview mode.

Well, I'd like to startup a discussion on a wicket feature I wrote up
and see if there's any interest for other people.  Basically, I use
some AJAX magic to load the component so that you can preview your
pages with your components.

http://jroller.com/page/wireframe/?anchor=auto_previewable_wicket_pages

Please let me know if there's any interest in this.  It definately has
reinforced how cool Wicket is!

Ryan


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