Re: [Wien] [second time query] overestimated band gap by PBE

2016-11-23 Thread Peter Blaha
The total energy is not variational with respect to the number of 
k-points, i.e. a lower total energy does not mean a better calculation 
when you compare 2 k-meshes. Clearly the 1000k calculation should be better.


PS: The size of the basis set is variational: a larger RKmax has to give 
you a lower energy.


PPS: As mentioned before, the GAP without spin-orbit is a meaningless 
number and you should NEVER say that the calculation which gives for the 
wrong reason the experimental gap is the "better" calculation.


Am 23.11.2016 um 13:15 schrieb Dr. K. C. Bhamu:

Dear Prof Peter,

Please comment of my query when you get time:This is in the queue on my
previous query regarding CH3NH3PbI3:


I used two strategy and got different results:


The experimental band gap is 1.67 eV for orthorhombic lead halide
perovskite.

I ran two cases (with PBE);
1. with 1000 k, div: ( 11  7 11) and "min -j 'run_lapw -p -I -NI -i
120 *-ec *0.1 *-ec * 0.0001 -fc 1
2. with 400 k, div: (  8  5  8)   and   min -j 'run_lapw -p -I -NI
-i 120 *-ec * 0.0001 *-ec * 0.0005 -fc 2'

-ec switch is used twice instead of ec and cc (it is by mistake)
In case 2 with less k-points and normal scf criteria (-ec 0.0001 -ec
0.0005 -fc 2), I got minimized ENE than case 1. But the band gap is good
from case 1.


Results:

1. GAP 1.687 eV,FER: 0.1030934295, ENE: -339059.11079128
2. GAP  1.777 eV,   FER: 0.1004906191, ENE: -339059.12432403

You see that band gap is in the error of /+- 0.01eV.

*[* next i tried with

1. with 1000 k, div: ( 11  7 11) and "min -j 'run_lapw -p -I -NI -i 120
-ec 0.1 _-cc_ 0.0001 -fc 1   >> second -ec is replaced by -cc
2. with 400 k, div: (  8  5  8)   and   min -j 'run_lapw -p -I -NI -i
120 -ec 0.0001 _-cc _ 0.0005 -fc 2'  ***>> second -ec is replaced by
-cc*
*
*and nothing happened scf immediately got exit and the structure was
already optimized]*



I did nothing special, just reduced rmt (5% and further rmt of "I"
was reduced by 0.02).
/_Please correct me what is wrong here. Because usually PBE always
underestimates the experimental band gap._/

Kind regards
Bhamu




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[Wien] [second time query] overestimated band gap by PBE

2016-11-23 Thread Dr. K. C. Bhamu
Dear Prof Peter,

Please comment of my query when you get time:This is in the queue on my
previous query regarding CH3NH3PbI3:

>
> I used two strategy and got different results:
>
>
> The experimental band gap is 1.67 eV for orthorhombic lead halide
> perovskite.
>
> I ran two cases (with PBE);
> 1. with 1000 k, div: ( 11  7 11) and "min -j 'run_lapw -p -I -NI -i 120 *-ec
> *0.1 *-ec * 0.0001 -fc 1
> 2. with 400 k, div: (  8  5  8)   and   min -j 'run_lapw -p -I -NI -i 120 *-ec
> * 0.0001 *-ec * 0.0005 -fc 2'
>
-ec switch is used twice instead of ec and cc (it is by mistake)
In case 2 with less k-points and normal scf criteria (-ec 0.0001 -ec 0.0005
-fc 2), I got minimized ENE than case 1. But the band gap is good from case
1.


Results:

1. GAP 1.687 eV,FER: 0.1030934295, ENE: -339059.11079128
2. GAP  1.777 eV,   FER: 0.1004906191, ENE: -339059.12432403

You see that band gap is in the error of /+- 0.01eV.




*[* next i tried with 1. with 1000 k, div: ( 11  7 11) and "min -j
'run_lapw -p -I -NI -i 120 -ec 0.1 -cc 0.0001 -fc 1   >> second -ec is
replaced by -cc 2. with 400 k, div: (  8  5  8)   and   min -j 'run_lapw -p
-I -NI -i 120 -ec 0.0001 -cc 0.0005 -fc 2'  *
*>> second -ec is replaced by -cc*
*and nothing happened scf immediately got exit and the structure was
already optimized]*

>
>
> I did nothing special, just reduced rmt (5% and further rmt of "I" was
> reduced by 0.02).
> *Please correct me what is wrong here. Because usually PBE always
> underestimates the experimental band gap.*
>
> Kind regards
> Bhamu
>
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