Re: [Wien] degeneracy problem in dipole matrix elements

2016-11-13 Thread Xavier Rocquefelte

Dear Mengxi Wu

If I clearly understand you, you are considering the GAMMA point where 
the bands are degenerate.


At the GAMMA point these bands have the same symmetry to my point of 
view, explaining why the dipole matrix is non-zero. Thus your result is 
expected to my point of view.


Best Regards

Xavier


Le 13/11/2016 à 17:29, Little Grass a écrit :

Dear WIEN2k users,

I'm trying to study the dipole matrix elements of MgO at Gamma point, 
but the dipole matrix elements between the degenerated bands seem to 
have been mixed together. Are there any ways to sort out the 
degeneracy, so that the dipole matrix elements are non-zero only for 
bands with the same symmetry?



The band structure can be generated from the spaghetti program. In 
addition, bands with different symmetries are colored differently with 
irrep.  For example, Fig1 shows the band structure from X to Gamma to 
X. According to symmetry, only the bands with the same color will be 
dipole allowed in px. So we expect that the dipole matrix elements (in 
file mommat2) for px is zero between bands with different colors. For 
example, the dipole matrix elements between band 6 and band 9 is 
non-zero, but the dipole matrix elements between band 7 and 9 or 8 and 
9 are zero. But if one looks at the px component of the dipole matrix 
element from the optic program, we see that at Gamma point, the dipole 
matrix elements between the degenerated bands are mixed together. For 
example, dipole matrix elements between band 6 and 9, between 7 and 9, 
and between 8 and 9 are all non-zero. In other words, the dipole 
matrix is much denser than it should be.
So is there a way to fix the dipole matrix so that the dipole matrix 
become very sparse and only bands with the same symmetry have non-zero 
dipole matrix elements?


Fig1:http://imgur.com/a/c7p0u

Thanks in advance for the help.
Best,
Mengxi Wu


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[Wien] degeneracy problem in dipole matrix elements

2016-11-13 Thread Little Grass
Dear WIEN2k users,

I'm trying to study the dipole matrix elements of MgO at Gamma point, but
the dipole matrix elements between the degenerated bands seem to have been
mixed together. Are there any ways to sort out the degeneracy, so that the
dipole matrix elements are non-zero only for bands with the same symmetry?


The band structure can be generated from the spaghetti program. In
addition, bands with different symmetries are colored differently with
irrep.  For example, Fig1 shows the band structure from X to Gamma to X.
According to symmetry, only the bands with the same color will be dipole
allowed in px. So we expect that the dipole matrix elements (in file
mommat2) for px is zero between bands with different colors. For example,
the dipole matrix elements between band 6 and band 9 is non-zero, but the
dipole matrix elements between band 7 and 9 or 8 and 9 are zero. But if one
looks at the px component of the dipole matrix element from the optic
program, we see that at Gamma point, the dipole matrix elements between the
degenerated bands are mixed together. For example, dipole matrix elements
between band 6 and 9, between 7 and 9, and between 8 and 9 are all
non-zero. In other words, the dipole matrix is much denser than it should
be.
So is there a way to fix the dipole matrix so that the dipole matrix become
very sparse and only bands with the same symmetry have non-zero dipole
matrix elements?

Fig1:http://imgur.com/a/c7p0u

Thanks in advance for the help.
Best,
Mengxi Wu
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