Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Wikimedia-l] Gender gap on "classical" encyclopedias

[Jane Darnell]

I have often thought we should go through at least one volume of the 1911
Encyclopedia Britannica for this purpose. The cawiki is great though. I
always check the %female factor in all completed lists I have, so I also
checked cawiki in my TED speakers list, even though ca is not one of the
languages in the TED translation team. See the overall table of results
here:
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/TED_conferences

As usual, the Swedes score the best of all the European languages, but
cawiki still beats nlwiki by quite a bit.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Tilman Bayer  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:39 AM,   wrote:
> > Hi, as some of you may know, the Wikipedia gender indicator [1] tells us
> how many articles are biographies about women x language/country/culture.
> >
> > In order to compare these numbers...Does anyone knows if there is an
> existing comparison with gender balance in classical encyclopedias?
> (Britannica, Larousse...) or, if not, could someone prepare a WD query
> about it?
> >
> > I think it could be a good argument for us to use: e.g "at cawiki 12% of
> bios are about women, compared to 5% in GEC, Our most famous encyclopedia".
> >
> > We could compare it also for temathic encyclopedias or other databases
> existing in projects like Mix and match.
> >
> > Can someone help? thanks in advance
> >
> >
> > [1]http://wigi.wmflabs.org/
> >
> >
> > Àlex Hinojo
> > User:Kippelboy
> > Amical Wikimedia Programme manager
>
> Interesting question. There may be more suitable venues for it, e.g.
> the research mailing list (CCed). Anyway, to start with two examples:
>
>
> http://reagle.org/joseph/pelican/social/gender-bias-in-wikipedia-and-britannica.html
>
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2015/May#Notable_women_.22slightly_overrepresented.22_.28not_underrepresented.29_on_Wikipedia.2C_but_the_Smurfette_principle_still_holds
> Comparison of Wikipedia with, among other sources, "Human
> Accomplishment", a 2003 "ranking of geniuses throughout the ages and
> around the world based on their prominence in contemporary
> encyclopedias" (NYT)
>
>
> --
> Tilman Bayer
> Senior Analyst
> Wikimedia Foundation
> IRC (Freenode): HaeB
>
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Wikimedia-l] Gender gap on "classical" encyclopedias

[Tilman Bayer]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:39 AM,   wrote:
> Hi, as some of you may know, the Wikipedia gender indicator [1] tells us how 
> many articles are biographies about women x language/country/culture.
>
> In order to compare these numbers...Does anyone knows if there is an existing 
> comparison with gender balance in classical encyclopedias? (Britannica, 
> Larousse...) or, if not, could someone prepare a WD query about it?
>
> I think it could be a good argument for us to use: e.g "at cawiki 12% of bios 
> are about women, compared to 5% in GEC, Our most famous encyclopedia".
>
> We could compare it also for temathic encyclopedias or other databases 
> existing in projects like Mix and match.
>
> Can someone help? thanks in advance
>
>
> [1]http://wigi.wmflabs.org/
>
>
> Àlex Hinojo
> User:Kippelboy
> Amical Wikimedia Programme manager

Interesting question. There may be more suitable venues for it, e.g.
the research mailing list (CCed). Anyway, to start with two examples:

http://reagle.org/joseph/pelican/social/gender-bias-in-wikipedia-and-britannica.html

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2015/May#Notable_women_.22slightly_overrepresented.22_.28not_underrepresented.29_on_Wikipedia.2C_but_the_Smurfette_principle_still_holds
Comparison of Wikipedia with, among other sources, "Human
Accomplishment", a 2003 "ranking of geniuses throughout the ages and
around the world based on their prominence in contemporary
encyclopedias" (NYT)


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Tilman Bayer
Senior Analyst
Wikimedia Foundation
IRC (Freenode): HaeB

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