Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Beeline as Hive client

2018-10-02 Thread Tilman Bayer 
There is an update

about
this:

"...hive is officially deprecated in favor of beeline, but as of October
2018, the Analytics team does not recommend migrating to it. The hive client
still has significantly better error reporting and a few other advantages."

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Tilman Bayer  wrote:

> Thanks for making it easier to use Beeline and for setting up the
> documentation! Curious and excited about stat1004 ;)
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Madhumitha Viswanathan
>  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > For all Hive users using stat1002/1004, you might have seen a deprecation
> > warning when you launch the hive client - that claims it's being replaced
> > with Beeline. The Beeline shell has always been available to use, but it
> > required supplying a database connection string every time, which was
> pretty
> > annoying. We now have a wrapper script setup to make this easier. The old
> > Hive CLI will continue to exist, but we encourage moving over to Beeline.
> > You can use it by logging into the stat1002/1004 boxes as usual, and
> > launching `beeline`.
> >
> > There is some documentation on this here:
> > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Cluster/Beeline.
> >
> > If you run into any issues using this interface, please ping us on the
> > Analytics list or #wikimedia-analytics or file a bug on Phabricator.
> >
> > (If you are wondering stat1004 whaaat - there should be an announcement
> > coming up about it soon!)
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > --Madhu :)
> >
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>
>
>
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia research on "productivity"

2018-10-02 Thread Kerry Raymond 
They might be referring to this:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Measuring_edit_productivity

"Productivity" is not a term that Wikipedia editors use among themselves (or at 
least not in the circles I move in). I suspect it's more of a research term.

Kerry

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Subject: [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia research on "productivity"

I'm working on a research paper and one of the reviewers has commented that 
"There is even a Wikipedia measure called productivity, which is essentially 
the amount of text produced over time less the reverted text"

Anybody familiar with that metric of "productivity"?

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Ofer
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia research on "productivity"

2018-10-02 Thread Nicolas Jullien 

Hello,

this definition is quite problematic, actually, as productivity in 
economics, is essentially a measure of efficiency (see: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Productivity).
What you are referring to here is more a measure of the efficient (new) 
outputs, for instance, so a measure of the production.
A measure of productivity would be a measure of new text (number of 
characters, for instance) *over* the number of edits needed to do so.


This said, measuring exactly what the inputs and the outputs are is a 
complex question, we tried to address with K. Crowston and F. Ortega here:

https://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedings/hicss/2013/4892/00/4892d197-abs.html

NJ

Le 02/10/2018 à 05:51, Alex Yarovoy a écrit :

I'm working on a research paper and one of the reviewers has commented that
"There is even a Wikipedia measure called productivity, which is
essentially the amount of text produced over time less the reverted text"

Anybody familiar with that metric of "productivity"?

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Ofer
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[Wiki-research-l] Job offers at the Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research, Rostock, Germany

2018-10-02 Thread Gosselck, Antje 
Dear Sir or Madame,

The Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research, Rostock, Germany, offers 
several positions for post-docs and scientists in the departments of our 
directors, Emilio Zagheni and Mikko Myrskylae:

https://www.demogr.mpg.de/en/education_career/jobs_fellowships_1910/post_docs_and_research_scientists_department_myrskylae_5876.htm
 
https://www.demogr.mpg.de/en/education_career/jobs_fellowships_1910/post_docs__research_scientists_department_zagheni_5874.htm
We would highly appreciate it, if you could kindly post these job ads your 
website and distribute them to your friends and colleagues.

Thanks a lot!

Have a great day!

With best regards,


Antje Gosselck

Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research
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Germany

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia research on "productivity"

2018-10-02 Thread Ziko van Dijk 
Hello,

That is very interesting. I don't know what she or he is referring
to...  How would the equation exactly look like?

As there are rules about content, and as the final goal is to provide
recipients with content they appreciate, I think that the equation
would lack important factors.

From the point of view of a certain discipline, it might be enough to
think "if content is not reverted/deleted by other editors, then it is
okay". Other researchers say: "I don't know whether this piece of
content is encyclopedic or according to the rules, as long as I have
not seen it with my own eyes."

For example: https://ksh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Faassefeld=763862
This article has not been deleted, but still it does not comply with
the Wikipedia rules. (The Wikipedia language version is Ripuarian, but
the text has been obviously copied from nds-nl.wp.)

Also: what is productivity, does this only relate to text or other
content "produced" specifically for that wiki? If someone translates
text, or imports texts, is that the same kind of "productivity"?

Kind regards
Ziko





Am Di., 2. Okt. 2018 um 05:51 Uhr schrieb Alex Yarovoy :
>
> I'm working on a research paper and one of the reviewers has commented that
> "There is even a Wikipedia measure called productivity, which is
> essentially the amount of text produced over time less the reverted text"
>
> Anybody familiar with that metric of "productivity"?
>
> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Ofer
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