[Bug 11456] Add [[Special:History/Page]] and [[Special:Edit/Page]] as functional internal wiki links

2014-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 11456] Add [[Special:History/Page]] and [[Special:Edit/Page]] as functional internal wiki links

2014-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Bug 11456] Add [[Special:History/Page]] and [[Special:Edit/Page]] as functional internal wiki links

2014-04-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 96170 abandoned by Legoktm:
Add Special:Edit and Special:History which redirect to their action equivalents

Reason:
Needs work, also not sure this is a good idea anymore.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96170

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[Bug 11456] Add [[Special:History/Page]] and [[Special:Edit/Page]] as functional internal wiki links

2014-01-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com ---
I agree. As confusing as it is that some actions are special pages and other
actions are WikiPage Actions, at least we don't have one redirecting to the
other.

I don't think just adding these redirects will achieve any gain other than it
being slightly easier to type in wikitext. As for external links, urls should
be stable enough. There's already been talk about phasing out interwiki
prefixes in favour of external links (something I would support).

(In reply to comment #14)
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/
 Drop_actions_in_favour_of_page_views_and_special_pages
 seems rather dead.
 

True, but I think if we're spending any more time on this, let's spend it on
that instead.


(In reply to comment #14)
 VE is interesting because some users go to ?veaction=edit instead of
 ?action=edit. I'm not sure there's an easy way to handle this, will think
 about
 it.

I think we should have something like ?editor, which would default based on
preference. So linking to action=edit would show the default editor for you.
And editor=visualeditor, editor=wikieditor or editor=classic would show one of
VisualEditor HTML editor, WikiEditor wikitext editor or classic toolbar
wikitext editor respectively. And most links should link to action=edit without
an editor parameter, thus showing whatever the canonical default is for the
current user or wiki.

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[Bug 11456] Add [[Special:History/Page]] and [[Special:Edit/Page]] as functional internal wiki links

2013-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org changed:

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[Bug 11456] Add [[Special:History/Page]] and [[Special:Edit/Page]] as functional internal wiki links

2013-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 96170 had a related patch set uploaded by Legoktm:
Add Special:Edit and Special:History which redirect to their action equivalents

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96170

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[Bug 11456] Add [[Special:History/Page]] and [[Special:Edit/Page]] as functional internal wiki links

2013-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 11456] Add [[Special:History/Page]] and [[Special:Edit/Page]] as functional internal wiki links

2013-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
(In reply to comment #12)
 Change 96170 had a related patch set uploaded by Legoktm:
 Add Special:Edit and Special:History which redirect to their action
 equivalents
 
 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/96170

This is probably controversial. Some people have strong views about whether we
should move toward Special pages or ?action= URLs. And for both options, there
are differing views about implementation: for example,
Special:Action/edit/page_title or wiki.org/edit/page_title.

Plus we now have complicating factors like Wikidata and VisualEditor and Flow
to consider, where an edit means something almost entirely different.

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[Bug 11456] Add [[Special:History/Page]] and [[Special:Edit/Page]] as functional internal wiki links

2013-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #13)

 This is probably controversial. Some people have strong views about whether
 we
 should move toward Special pages or ?action= URLs. And for both options,
 there
 are differing views about implementation: for example,
 Special:Action/edit/page_title or wiki.org/edit/page_title.

This patch just adds in redirects, so users still go to ?action=edit. Even if
Special:Action/edit/Foo became the eventual destination, you would want
Special:Edit/Foo to end up there.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Drop_actions_in_favour_of_page_views_and_special_pages
seems rather dead.

I even named the classes SpecialEditRedirect instead of SpecialEdit in case
we decide to make it a special page in the future.

 Plus we now have complicating factors like Wikidata and VisualEditor and Flow
 to consider, where an edit means something almost entirely different.

True. I think those are edge cases though, and don't make the special pages
less useful for wikis/pages not using Wikibase/Flow.

VE is interesting because some users go to ?veaction=edit instead of
?action=edit. I'm not sure there's an easy way to handle this, will think about
it.

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