[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2011-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||hcat...@wikimedia.org,
   ||m...@everybody.org

--- Comment #14 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2011-05-03 
13:29:37 UTC ---
Added Mark the bugmeister and Hampton the mobile expert. Please see my last
comment. Thank you.

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2011-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Search under Vector doesn't |Re-enable Go and Search
   |work for mobile users   |buttons on enwiki, commons
   ||pending SimpleSearch fix

--- Comment #19 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-05-03 
18:01:48 UTC ---
closing this to open Bug #28799 to focus on comment #13 from here.

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2011-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2011-04-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Normal  |High
   Severity|enhancement |major

--- Comment #13 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2011-04-29 
19:13:27 UTC ---
I was about to close this bug, because it generated no interest since full-text
searching was fixed, but today i noticed something that made me think that
maybe it should be fixed. The current mobile Wikipedia is really only for
Wikipedia. I tried using Wiktionary today from my phone, and i couldn't run a
search - i can write the word in the search box, but my phone doesn't have a
way to send an Enter-like event.

This is true for my Samsung Monte, for Symbian-based Nokia phones and maybe for
many others. On the iPhone the SimpleSeach drop-down works, although not
without issues.

On the Mobile Wikipedia this is solved by putting near the input box a button
that actually runs the search and can be pressed by the Symbian mouse-like
pointer, by the Samsung touchscreen or by whatever there is in the other
phones. Until there's a new mobile WikiMedia app, this button should be added
to Wikimedia projects. Marking this as High priority - it's nearly impossible
to search non-Wikipedia projects on many mobile devices until it's solved.

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2010-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Highest |Normal
   Severity|critical|enhancement

--- Comment #12 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2010-05-21 
06:58:27 UTC ---
Changed importance to enhancement - the full text search works now.

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2010-05-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

--- Comment #8 from Mormegil morme...@centrum.cz 2010-05-19 08:12:42 UTC ---
Agreed that the current state of affairs – neither “Search” button nor the
“containing…” functionality – is wrong.

However, you do not need to type Special:Search into the box – just click the
magnifier icon without typing anything (with the empty search box).

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2010-05-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

--- Comment #9 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2010-05-19 
08:35:49 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #8)
 Agreed that the current state of affairs – neither “Search” button nor the
 “containing…” functionality – is wrong.
 
 However, you do not need to type Special:Search into the box – just click the
 magnifier icon without typing anything (with the empty search box).

Interesting, thanks.

I tried pressing the magnifier when there was text in the box and it did the
same thing as pressing Enter - Go and not Search. Pressing Enter in an
empty box also brings me to Special:Search.

This may point at a possible solution:
* Pressing the Enter key and clicking the magnifier in an empty should bring
the user to Special:Search.
* Pressing the Enter key in a box with text should do Go if a page by that
name exists and Search if there's no such page.
* Pressing the magnifier in a box with text should do Search in any case.

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2010-05-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

Alexey Bobyakov claymore...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||claymore...@gmail.com

--- Comment #10 from Alexey Bobyakov claymore...@gmail.com 2010-05-19 
10:09:41 UTC ---
I can confirm that something is broken: I can't get the search option
(containing…) in the scenario described in
http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2010/05/simplified-search-for-vector/

I've tried it in Google Chrome 4.1.249.1064 and IE 7, neither works.

Amir's suggestions in #c9 seems logical, too.

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2010-05-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

--- Comment #11 from nkom...@wikimedia.org nkom...@wikimedia.org 2010-05-19 
19:10:16 UTC ---
Enhanced simple search by Roan Kattouw is staged on prototype:  

http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Prototype

* Search suggestion expands infinitely to the left
* containing feature is restored
* A tooltip is added for the advanced search

Please give it a spin, and provide feedback.

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2010-05-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

Pete Forsyth (WMF) pfors...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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--- Comment #6 from Pete Forsyth (WMF) pfors...@wikimedia.org 2010-05-18 
21:20:35 UTC ---
I agree with Amir that this is a serious concern. Among many things, it will
have a direct impact on the complexity of instructional materials associated
with Bookshelf and the Public Policy Initiative.

It seems to me that there is a pretty standard and functional way to address
this: simply put a small text link saying Advanced Search next to the search
button.

See ebay.com, britannica.com, corbisimages.com

I'm sure there's been some usability research done around this sort of feature,
so I'll just state this as my personal opinion: a small advanced search
button seems to present all the functionality of the former Go/Search setup,
while eliminating the confusing choice.

For whatever it's worth, I discussed this usability issue in depth about a year
ago with Pete Kaminski, who has a pretty extensive background and reputation in
the realm of wikis and usability, and he agreed with this approach.

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2010-05-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org changed:

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 CC||hart...@videolan.org

--- Comment #7 from Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org 2010-05-18 23:22:10 
CEST ---
I'm also rather tired of having to type Special:Search in the search dialog if
i want to actual SEARCH

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2010-05-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||nkom...@gmail.com,
   ||roan.katt...@gmail.com
Summary|Go and search button are|Re-enable Go and Search
   |not confusing   |buttons on enwiki, commons
   ||pending SimpleSearch fix

--- Comment #1 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-05-17 10:31:21 
UTC ---
Rewording summary to be a factual representation of what the reporter wants
rather than the reporter's opinion.

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2010-05-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

Bae June Hyeon dev...@devunt.kr changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||need-review
 CC||dev...@devunt.kr

--- Comment #2 from Bae June Hyeon dev...@devunt.kr 2010-05-17 10:33:59 UTC 
---
I think we must hear other user's opinion

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2010-05-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

Raimond Spekking raimond.spekk...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|need-review |
 CC||raimond.spekk...@gmail.com
   Severity|critical|normal

--- Comment #3 from Raimond Spekking raimond.spekk...@gmail.com 2010-05-17 
10:37:08 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #0)
 
 I am marking it critical, because in the current state of affairs it is
 completely impossible to search Wikipedia using the search box. Example: 
 search
 for begin. You'll get to the page Begin. There's no way to actually search
 Wikipedia for the word begin using this search box, except going to
 Special:Search manually (there's no link to Special:Search anywhere).

Full text seach is still possible. Please read
http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2010/05/simplified-search-for-vector/

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2010-05-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Normal  |Highest
   Severity|normal  |critical

--- Comment #4 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2010-05-17 
10:39:00 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #3)
 (In reply to comment #0)
  
  I am marking it critical, because in the current state of affairs it is
  completely impossible to search Wikipedia using the search box. Example: 
  search
  for begin. You'll get to the page Begin. There's no way to actually 
  search
  Wikipedia for the word begin using this search box, except going to
  Special:Search manually (there's no link to Special:Search anywhere).
 
 Full text seach is still possible. Please read
 http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2010/05/simplified-search-for-vector/

Full text search is not possible, because the “containing” option doesn't
actually appear in the suggestions.

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[Bug 23558] Re-enable Go and Search buttons on enwiki, commons pending SimpleSearch fix

2010-05-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23558

--- Comment #5 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2010-05-17 
15:13:36 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #1)
 Rewording summary to be a factual representation of what the reporter wants
 rather than the reporter's opinion.

For the record, it was Go and search button are not confusing, a paraphrase
on the summary of Bug 577. Consider rewording that one, too :)

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