[Bug 24294] Should block IPv6 addresses at /64 instead of /128

2012-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24294

Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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[Bug 24294] Should block IPv6 addresses at /64 instead of /128

2012-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24294

Marcin Cieślak marcin.cies...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Marcin Cieślak marcin.cies...@gmail.com 2012-03-27 
22:39:05 UTC ---
I think blocking of IPv6 should assume /64 by default, but it should be
modifiable.

Probably out subnet/host block distinction should go away, even for IPv4 (just
have /32 as kind of special default case).

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[Bug 24294] Should block IPv6 addresses at /64 instead of /128

2012-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24294

jas...@jasperswebsite.co.cc changed:

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--- Comment #9 from jas...@jasperswebsite.co.cc 2012-01-14 23:21:58 UTC ---
I've proposed a /32 as the technical maximum because GoDaddy and other webhosts
get ranges of that size. I do not believe the WMF should give leniency with /80
or /96 because one single user never will have a range of that size. If a /64
represents a group, just block single addresses.

The default should indeed be a /64, but we have to be careful about ISPs who
issue /56, /48, and 6to4 addresses.

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[Bug 24294] Should block IPv6 addresses at /64 instead of /128

2011-09-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24294

Carl Austin Bennett carlb...@hotmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Carl Austin Bennett carlb...@hotmail.com 2011-09-09 
00:04:38 UTC ---
I'd think that /64 is rather common due to rfc4291 [[IPv6
address#Stateless_address_autoconfiguration]] by which any individual router is
given a /64 and the individual clients suffix this with a 64-bit extended MAC
address or a random suffix.

I've only seen a /128 once; the lowest-level of anonymous tunnel on gogo6
acts as a dynamic IP address for one Windows PC and semi-randomly allocates a
different /128 from [2001:5c0:1000:a]/64 each time the PC re-connects to the
network. Even there, all of their other tunnel offerings are at least a
::/64; I believe ::/64 as the smallest allocation is also true of Hurricane
Electric. For that matter, my co-lo provider will be offering a ::/64 for my
three servers.

Oh, drats, that only leaves me with 2^64 - 3 free addresses? What if I run out?
If my upstream provider only has [2605:ac00]/32 they might've assigned all four
billion ::/64's by the time that happens, then I'm really in trouble!

In any case, we should expect many (or even the majority) of blocks to be
rangeblocks (with /64 the smallest viable) unless we're dealing with the most
casual of vandalism from someone who has no idea how either wiki or IPv6 works.

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[Bug 24294] Should block IPv6 addresses at /64 instead of /128

2011-09-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24294

--- Comment #7 from Jon Davis w...@konsoletek.com 2011-09-09 00:42:47 UTC ---
Maybe it should be a configurable variable in LocalSettings.php, the size of
the default ipv6 range block, that is.  /64 is the RFC suggestion and that
seems to be what most groups are handing out (so far all of mine are, HE,
Linode, other providers) so for my personal wiki's I'd want to do /64 block. 
On the other hand the WMF may want to be more lenient and only block /80 or
/96?.  

But yea, single IP blocks in IPv6 will be a thing of the past.

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[Bug 24294] Should block IPv6 addresses at /64 instead of /128

2011-09-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24294

--- Comment #8 from Carl Austin Bennett carlb...@hotmail.com 2011-09-09 
03:20:22 UTC ---
Hard to know if blocking /80 or /96 makes sense... if /64 is enough to narrow
down to one individual router (a LAN subnet) the lower 64 bits seem to
typically be either:

a) mostly zeroes, with the low word a sequential or arbitrary number
identifying an individual machine using just the lower few bits as meaningful
data.

b) a network card's hardware MAC address or a randomly-selected number.

A local network may well be 2001:db8:1234:5678::1 as router with ::2, ::3 and
::4 as the individual computers; in this case a /64 vs. a /125 actually produce
the same result as all that's in all those extra bits is a whole lot of zeroes.

The most likely options are:
a) block one computer (a /128) - weak as the rest of the same LAN retains
access
b) block one individual subnet (a /64) - usually takes out one router or LAN
c) a range block of anything larger (a /32 would likely block a local ISP)

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[Bug 24294] Should block IPv6 addresses at /64 instead of /128

2010-11-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Ashar Voultoiz has...@free.fr changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Ashar Voultoiz has...@free.fr 2010-11-22 20:24:08 UTC ---
Be careful. My ISP (free.fr) allocate a /60 per end user. A /48 mask will block
4096 end users 2^(60-48).

Some companies might have a /64 dedicated to internet access. In this case you
will have to block per /128 :(

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[Bug 24294] Should block IPv6 addresses at /64 instead of /128

2010-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24294

Aaron Schulz jschulz_4...@msn.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Aaron Schulz jschulz_4...@msn.com 2010-11-22 00:51:34 UTC 
---
(In reply to comment #0)
 The current design for an IP block (in IPv4 and MediaWiki) is to block that
 specific IP.  Problem is that IPv6 is much bigger.  The recommendation is
 currently to issue a /64 for everything, even for a Point-to-point link.  So 
 in
 the case of IPv6, blocking the /128 is effectively pointless.  The default 
 when
 handling IPv6 addresses probably should be to block the /64.

Were is this recommendation?

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[Bug 24294] Should block IPv6 addresses at /64 instead of /128

2010-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24294

--- Comment #3 from Brownout brovvnout+wikibugzi...@gmail.com 2010-11-22 
00:58:38 UTC ---
I'd start with RFC 4291 and RFC 5375.

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[Bug 24294] Should block IPv6 addresses at /64 instead of /128

2010-07-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24294

Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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[Bug 24294] Should block IPv6 addresses at /64 instead of /128

2010-07-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24294

Brownout brovvnout+wikibugzi...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Brownout brovvnout+wikibugzi...@gmail.com 2010-07-06 
21:39:14 UTC ---
You don't necessarily want to block an entire subnet, an optional flag would be
better.

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