[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Liangent liang...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|41760 | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Liangent liang...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||liang...@gmail.com Blocks||41760 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED CC||roan.katt...@gmail.com Resolution||FIXED --- Comment #63 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2011-06-11 07:30:02 UTC --- (In reply to comment #62) Ashar said in comment 55 that he will be doing that soon. I wrote a script for this and ran it just now. 32,640 users were affected. All of them have now had their minordefault preference removed from the preferences table; this should fix the issue. Because I interrupted the script at some point, it's possible that the preference will come back for up to 100 users. If this happens, post a comment on this bug and I'll rerun the script. Unfortunately, the identity of these users is unknown, so I can't fix this problem before it happens, only after. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Lantz Rowland lan...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||lan...@gmail.com --- Comment #56 from Lantz Rowland lan...@gmail.com 2011-06-10 07:49:53 UTC --- Hiya, For the record, I am one of the people on en-Wiki who had minordefault enabled. Thank you very much for just putting this in $wgHiddenPrefs for en-Wiki , It is not a useless preferences in MediaWiki. (In Comment 7) I suppose a legitimate use would be someone who is exceeding gnomish, but also judiciously unchecks the box when making a non-minor edit. Yep. I do not consider that I was invited to the battle. Perhaps if there had been a Bot notification to the set of 33,625 users that had minordefault enabled, advertising an open discussion on Help talk:Minor Edit about removing the feature they were using, the debate would have been larger and less one sided. The Village Pump Proposals one line ad did not attract many of that set, while Village Pump Technical discussion seems to be still trying figure out how to replace the now hidden simple check box with script that works. Since I had no intent of ever changing my minordefault, it is the change from Bugzilla Comment 55 that most directly affected me. --- Perhaps Ashar would consider another Update Where 'LantzR' setting me back to enabled. ;^) Cheers, Lantz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LantzR -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #57 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2011-06-10 08:25:56 UTC --- (In reply to comment #56) Hiya, ... Cheers, Lantz Several user scripts for this, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Snippets/Mark_minor_edit and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29/Archive_78#Preference_to_mark_all_edits_minor_by_default_asked_to_be_removed_in_bugzilla:24313 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #58 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2011-06-10 08:33:17 UTC --- (In reply to comment #56) Bot notification to the set of 33,625 users that had minordefault enabled, advertising an open discussion on Help talk:Minor Edit about removing the feature they were using, the debate would have been larger and less one sided. It's quite true that wikignomish users are not likely to have taken part in such a discussion, but [[Help talk:Minor edit]] is not protected, so I expected them to complain, after the notification; still, nobody did, apparently. :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #59 from Lantz Rowland lan...@gmail.com 2011-06-10 10:22:35 UTC --- (In reply to comment #57) Thanks for the references. I'd picked up on the Village Pump Technical thread from (Comment 7) above. I installed the 1st (and 3rd) script (same code as the Mark snippet ) from the instructions there and added a comment to the end of the thread. It is working fine. I'll switch to the Mark_minor_edit snippet you point out, it's the same code but I prefer Marks comments and if style. Cheers, Lantz -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #60 from Lantz Rowland lan...@gmail.com 2011-06-10 10:48:01 UTC --- (In reply to comment #58) (In reply to comment #56) ... , but [[Help talk:Minor edit]] is not protected, so I expected them to complain, after the notification; still, nobody did, apparently. :) I know the bright red Please do not modify it. certainly slowed me down. ] The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. ] Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. ] A summary of the conclusions reached follows. I was using the Vector skin normally by preference and have switched to Mark_minor_edit snippet per (Comment #57) for it's script. Thanks all for your help. Cheers, Lantz -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #61 from guymacon bugzillawikimedia42...@99dc.biz 2011-06-10 15:12:54 UTC --- I am currently assisting a non-technical user who is stuck with having every edit marked as minor with no way to turn it off. That hidden box needs to be turned off for all users by a 'bot. Giving the users a way to turn it back on seams reasonable, but the hidden box needs to be unchecked for users who don't do something special to keep it turned on. I am sure that there are many other users who, like mine, have been spending years inadvertently marking all edits - including major changes - as minor without really knowing what a minor edit is or why there is an m next the every edit. There is a larger issue as well: when a user interface option is hidden, careful thought needs to be given to setting a sane default for users who now have an unchangeable user preference. I sometimes try different user configuration settings to see if I like them. Having the ability to change it back suddenly disappear is not something I would allow from the software developers who work for me, and neither should Wikimedia allow it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Casey Brown b...@caseybrown.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||b...@caseybrown.org --- Comment #62 from Casey Brown b...@caseybrown.org 2011-06-10 20:02:54 UTC --- Ashar said in comment 55 that he will be doing that soon. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Ashar Voultoiz has...@free.fr changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #55 from Ashar Voultoiz has...@free.fr 2011-06-08 06:20:06 UTC --- Sorry, I think I forgot about this bug :( Although the configuration setting is hidden, I still have to update enwiki database to disable it for user that had it before the change. Will try to get it done this week. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 guymacon bugzillawikimedia42...@99dc.biz changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bugzillawikimedia42763@99dc ||.biz --- Comment #51 from guymacon bugzillawikimedia42...@99dc.biz 2011-06-07 14:11:30 UTC --- Re Last notifications were sent to the users. The preference will be overwritten soon (posted 2011-03-20), is there an estimate on when this will be completed? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #52 from xenocidic xenow...@gmail.com 2011-06-07 14:47:11 UTC --- (In reply to comment #51) Re Last notifications were sent to the users. The preference will be overwritten soon (posted 2011-03-20), is there an estimate on when this will be completed? I do believe it already was. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Comment #53 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2011-06-07 23:49:00 UTC --- 11:51 logmsgbot: hashar synchronized php-1.17/wmf-config/CommonSettings.php 'bug 24313 - hide preference minordefault for enwiki' -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #54 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2011-06-07 23:49:30 UTC --- March 13: 11:51 logmsgbot: hashar synchronized php-1.17/wmf-config/CommonSettings.php 'bug 24313 - hide preference minordefault for enwiki' -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #50 from Paine Ellsworth pain...@aol.com 2011-04-12 16:12:12 UTC --- Okay, that first js works fine. Haven't had any problems with it. I read the comments made that prompted this bug. It seems that this has brought out some good conversations about what is and what isn't a major or a minor edit. It was a pity that some comments prompted an editor to respond, I am rather put off by the number of Support comments above suggesting that mostly minor edits can never be a valid editor's style. Lot's of apologies ensued, so maybe this was a good thing. At any rate, you devs have better things to do than to get involved with these controversies. I personally would like to see the pref. restored, but heck, I have the js, so I'm okay with the deletion. It's so much easier for the gnomes, who shy away from code like js, to just check a box, though. Best of everything to you all! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #49 from Paine Ellsworth pain...@aol.com 2011-03-23 06:25:24 UTC --- (In reply to comment #47) Update: Last notifications were sent to the users. The preference will be overwritten soon. Paine open a different bug please. I am not a javascript guru :( A new bug's not necessary at this point, as I've been testing the first of the two Java scripts that were given. While, as I noted, the second script with the cookie worked only sporadically (probably because I regularly wipe out my cookies), the first script seems to be working fine, thus far. So thank you very much, Ashar Voultoiz and xenocidic, for your responses. If that first-choice script stops working, then I'll take it to the next level. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #48 from xenocidic xenow...@gmail.com 2011-03-21 13:17:02 UTC --- A bug report should not be needed; post to [[WP:VPT]] and someone should be able to debug the javascript. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Ashar Voultoiz has...@free.fr changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED AssignedTo|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |has...@free.fr |org | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #47 from Ashar Voultoiz has...@free.fr 2011-03-20 15:51:31 UTC --- Update: Last notifications were sent to the users. The preference will be overwritten soon. Paine open a different bug please. I am not a javascript guru :( -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Paine Ellsworth pain...@aol.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||pain...@aol.com --- Comment #46 from Paine Ellsworth pain...@aol.com 2011-03-19 07:27:15 UTC --- (In reply to comment #15) Javascript to restore the functionality may be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29/Archive_78#Preference_to_mark_all_edits_minor_by_default_asked_to_be_removed_in_bugzilla:24313 For the record, I am one of the people who preferred to have the Minor box autocheckmarked. Having lost that battle, I added the above Java to my vector.js file, and it worked for awhile. Now it has stopped working. I would have opened a new bug, but (1) I wanted to express my dismay at the loss of this pref. and (2) I figured I'd give the devs a break. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #45 from Ashar Voultoiz has...@free.fr 2011-03-13 12:35:36 UTC --- On enwiki: - 33625 users have minordefault enabled - 7965 users have been active for the period ranging from December 2010 to March 13 2011. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #43 from xenocidic xenow...@gmail.com 2011-02-09 14:30:54 UTC --- FYI we have a new thread on this, again with unanimous agreement to remove the preference on en.wiki. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#.22Mark_all_edits_as_minor_by_default.22_should_be_disabled -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #42 from Brad Jorsch b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu 2011-01-30 21:53:29 UTC --- So what exactly is the holdup here? The decision was unanimous on enwiki, it was advertised in the appropriate places, and if someone would just provide the list of users to notify we could have a bot post the notices today. Or someone could just cut the knot and do it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #38 from xenocidic xenow...@gmail.com 2010-11-17 19:16:24 UTC --- (In reply to comment #36) I don't think it's a shell request unless someone writes the notification script that I asked for in comment 22. There was a unanimous Village Pump discussion that was advertised via the Central discussions template. It will be no more annoying than any other number of interface changes that have happened without notification (like the one that swapped the location of diff and hist, for example). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #39 from OverlordQ overlo...@gmail.com 2010-11-17 19:22:51 UTC --- 1) By 'Village Pump' are you referring to the discussion on the talk page of Help:Minor Edit? I really wouldn't call that consensus. 2) Apples and oranges, one is a minor change to make all pages consistent, the other is completely removing functionality. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #40 from xenocidic xenow...@gmail.com 2010-11-17 19:25:46 UTC --- Mmm, I seem to have misremembered the venue. It was advertised at pump though, twice. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Archive_63#Proposal_to_remove_the_Preference_setting_that_marks_all_edits_as_minor_by_default https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_78#Preference_to_mark_all_edits_minor_by_default_asked_to_be_removed_in_bugzilla:24313 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Emil Jerabek jera...@math.cas.cz changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jera...@math.cas.cz --- Comment #41 from Emil Jerabek jera...@math.cas.cz 2010-11-17 19:39:36 UTC --- (In reply to comment #39) 1) By 'Village Pump' are you referring to the discussion on the talk page of Help:Minor Edit? I really wouldn't call that consensus. What would you call consensus then? There were a couple of dozens of supporters, and not a single oppose. That's more than consensus, that's a unanimous decision. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #35 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-11-16 17:04:52 UTC --- Yes, there's a chance. Shell requests apparently aren't being done systematically right now, though, or so I've heard, so I can't say what timeframe it might happen in. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|shell | --- Comment #36 from Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org 2010-11-16 23:23:18 UTC --- I don't think it's a shell request unless someone writes the notification script that I asked for in comment 22. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #37 from Brad Jorsch b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu 2010-11-17 01:38:47 UTC --- (In reply to comment #36) I don't think it's a shell request unless someone writes the notification script that I asked for in comment 22. Bah. Provide a list of users to be notified and we'll have a bot do it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #34 from Gavia immer etd...@gmail.com 2010-11-16 06:38:05 UTC --- Is there any chance that the original request that could have been fulfilled four months ago will ever be fulfilled? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #32 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2010-11-01 18:26:07 UTC --- (In reply to comment #29) (In reply to comment #28) The original site request simply wants it turned off on en.wiki. I have no issue with turning it off on en.wiki, just the issue with it being removed from mediawiki all together. The version I'm running here for testing is 1.17alpha (r73191) - retrieved from SVN, and this feature is gone. Looks like it's been removed from the entire project, not just the en.wiki instance of mediawiki. r69337 by Aryeh Gregor still needs to be reverted... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #33 from OverlordQ overlo...@gmail.com 2010-11-01 18:59:46 UTC --- Reverted by r75815 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #31 from MC10 mathsma...@gmail.com 2010-11-01 01:52:28 UTC --- And please, _just_ en.wiki, not from MediaWiki completely. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 dougwel...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||dougwel...@gmail.com --- Comment #30 from dougwel...@gmail.com 2010-09-23 09:48:49 UTC --- Please disable it at en.wiki, I'm tired of wasting time dealing with editors who have it enabled and make major changes in articles leaving it as M. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 SSonik sso...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||sso...@gmail.com --- Comment #27 from SSonik sso...@gmail.com 2010-09-16 06:14:29 UTC --- Guys, this is not a bug and should not be fixed. Plain and simple. Allow the preference to be enabled or disabled, do not remove it completely. 99% of the changes I make on my company wiki are legitimate *and* minor. Selecting the minor box every single time, and remembering that the setting has now been removed makes my life a lot harder. FYI: No one searches for articles on a feature that already exists and is so self-explanatory, just in case someone might motion to have it removed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #28 from xenocidic xenow...@gmail.com 2010-09-16 12:33:52 UTC --- (In reply to comment #27) Guys, this is not a bug and should not be fixed. Plain and simple. Allow the preference to be enabled or disabled, do not remove it completely. 99% of the changes I make on my company wiki are legitimate *and* minor. Selecting the minor box every single time, and remembering that the setting has now been removed makes my life a lot harder. The original site request simply wants it turned off on en.wiki. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #29 from SSonik sso...@gmail.com 2010-09-17 01:03:09 UTC --- (In reply to comment #28) The original site request simply wants it turned off on en.wiki. I have no issue with turning it off on en.wiki, just the issue with it being removed from mediawiki all together. The version I'm running here for testing is 1.17alpha (r73191) - retrieved from SVN, and this feature is gone. Looks like it's been removed from the entire project, not just the en.wiki instance of mediawiki. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Gavia immer etd...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||etd...@gmail.com --- Comment #26 from Gavia immer etd...@gmail.com 2010-09-01 22:27:45 UTC --- Yes, please at least fulfill the original request for en.wikipedia. This has been waiting for a while, and the consensus there is that this is not wanted as a preference. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||tstarl...@wikimedia.org --- Comment #22 from Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org 2010-08-31 12:43:31 UTC --- I think this is going to annoy a lot of people, unless the people who use this feature can be notified in advance with a user talk page edit or some notification extension. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Marcin Cieślak marcin.cies...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||marcin.cies...@gmail.com --- Comment #23 from Marcin Cieślak marcin.cies...@gmail.com 2010-08-31 12:49:00 UTC --- There was a question from one of the editors (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/wiki/Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Kwestie_techniczne#Drobne_edycje) that he is unable to have his changes marked automatically marked as minor automatically (he wanted to have his box ticked by JavaScript by some means). I have advised him to used this very feature... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #24 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-08-31 16:50:31 UTC --- (In reply to comment #22) I think this is going to annoy a lot of people, unless the people who use this feature can be notified in advance with a user talk page edit or some notification extension. I do tend to systematically underestimate annoyance to users. What do you suggest, then? Revert and WONTFIX? Revert, use $wgHiddenPrefs for enwiki, and tell anyone who complains to complain at the enwikians who asked for this? Maybe at some point in the future, we can make a more coordinated effort to cut down on needless prefs, and institute a proper transition plan. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #25 from Brad Jorsch b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu 2010-08-31 17:22:21 UTC --- (In reply to comment #24) Revert, use $wgHiddenPrefs for enwiki, and tell anyone who complains to complain at the enwikians who asked for this? This. The consensus at enwiki is unanimous among those who commented. Don't forget to also run the maintenance script mentioned in comment #1 to turn it off for those who currently have it on. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #17 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-08-25 18:28:08 UTC --- Having more preferences imposes a lot of non-obvious costs, so the number of preferences should be kept to a minimum. We have way too many as it stands. For things like this that are not terribly useful -- this saves one Shift-Alt-I or click or whatever at best, and few users use it (about 30,000 on enwiki, ~0.25%) -- we have general extensibility mechanisms like user JavaScript, and we should not provide specific preferences. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #18 from Aaron Schulz jschulz_4...@msn.com 2010-08-25 18:34:00 UTC --- If a button must be in the prefs and enough people on a wiki use it, can't a local gadget be used instead? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #19 from duplicate...@googlemail.com 2010-08-25 19:21:18 UTC --- There are many other settings, you can replace by javascript, but not all user have activ javascript. The preload of a checkbox is a very simple setting. Please make that consistent, and remove all other settings, which are preload of a checkbox. Thanks. (In reply to comment #16) For other wikis, if you want to reduce useless preferences, start with Use external editor by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer) and Use external diff by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer). Yes, that are very complex settings and better candiate to remove. (In reply to comment #17) and few users use it (about 30,000 on enwiki, ~0.25%) Why not count the active users? 3 / 135231 = 22.18% vs. 3 / 12931782 = 0.23% -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #20 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2010-08-25 19:25:35 UTC --- (In reply to comment #17) Having more preferences imposes a lot of non-obvious costs, so the number of preferences should be kept to a minimum. We have way too many as it stands. For things like this that are not terribly useful -- this saves one Shift-Alt-I or click or whatever at best, and few users use it (about 30,000 on enwiki, ~0.25%) -- we have general extensibility mechanisms like user JavaScript, and we should not provide specific preferences. Did you check also how many users use the other preferences? And, if there are so few users who use this, how can it be a harm, as was stated? Anyway, as of July 2010, according to http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm , there are 615526 actual users, so that would be 4,9 %, and there are 99699 users with more than 100 edits (these are far more likely to use this preference), so that would be 30 %. (In reply to comment #18) If a button must be in the prefs and enough people on a wiki use it, can't a local gadget be used instead? Not every wiki has the gadget extension, and if your aim is to reduce clutter I don't see how this could be an improvement, given that we have already lots of preferences for gadgets in several wikis which use that, and those preferences are far less used that this. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #21 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-08-25 19:44:43 UTC --- (In reply to comment #19) The preload of a checkbox is a very simple setting. Please make that consistent, and remove all other settings, which are preload of a checkbox. I intend to, if I ever get around to it, but it's not especially high-priority. Why not count the active users? Because it's more complicated to write the database query. 3 / 135231 = 22.18% vs. 3 / 12931782 = 0.23% The first figure is extremely misleading, because you're counting both inactive and active users who have the preference set, and dividing by only the total active users. If 27,000 inactive users have the preference set, it would really be about 2% of active users, for example. The latter figure (mine) almost certainly understates the practical impact of the change, but at least it's a meaningful comparison. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added CC||federicol...@tiscali.it --- Comment #13 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2010-08-24 15:22:23 UTC --- Please hide the setting only on en.wiki if they wish so; folks will be very upset if it will be removed also on other wikis, because there are lots of users who use this and lots of wikis which don't find it troublesome. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #14 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-08-24 17:00:43 UTC --- Those users can use about one line of user JavaScript instead. We don't need an actual preference for this. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #15 from xenocidic xenow...@gmail.com 2010-08-24 17:20:44 UTC --- Javascript to restore the functionality may be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29/Archive_78#Preference_to_mark_all_edits_minor_by_default_asked_to_be_removed_in_bugzilla:24313 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #16 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2010-08-24 18:32:29 UTC --- I don't see why lots users should have to use a JavaScript for such a useful preference. en.wiki wants it removed, ok, I don't mind much (even if I'm a bit annoyed and I don't see an overwhelming consensus for that), but leave other wikis alone: the reasons mentioned in en.wiki's VP don't apply to other wikis. For other wikis, if you want to reduce useless preferences, start with Use external editor by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer) and Use external diff by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer). This preference is very useful because we have lots of users who make almost only minor edits; minor edits not marked as such are very annoying in histories if you're looking for something; false minor edits are not many in the wikis I know (also because people prefer to say that their edits are important, unless they're vandals, but when you fight vandalism you don't care of minor/not minor, obviously). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #11 from xenocidic xenow...@gmail.com 2010-08-02 20:08:53 UTC --- As the filer of this bug, I did not expect it to be removed from Mediawiki entirely. I could see how it would be useful if social issues weren't a factor. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #12 from MC10 mathsma...@gmail.com 2010-08-03 01:14:58 UTC --- Agreed, it may be of some use for others on other wikis. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #10 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-08-01 17:55:23 UTC --- I don't care what the English Wikipedia thinks. I removed the feature because *I* think we should be cutting down on not-very-useful preferences -- this is exactly the sort of niche thing that we permit user scripts for. We can't just add more and more preferences forever without removing any; that's not reasonable. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 OverlordQ overlo...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||overlo...@gmail.com --- Comment #9 from OverlordQ overlo...@gmail.com 2010-07-31 00:59:53 UTC --- Or could have just hid the option, so people who actually use the option on their own wiki will still have it and not be forced to implement javascript hacks because some site called English Wikipedia got pissy again. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||simetrical+wikib...@gmail.c ||om --- Comment #4 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-07-14 18:26:18 UTC --- Is it better to use $wgHiddenPrefs, or just remove the feature entirely? Is there any legitimate use for this? We should try to cut out bad preferences where we can. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 Aaron Schulz jschulz_4...@msn.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jschulz_4...@msn.com --- Comment #5 from Aaron Schulz jschulz_4...@msn.com 2010-07-14 18:29:04 UTC --- (In reply to comment #4) Is it better to use $wgHiddenPrefs, or just remove the feature entirely? Is there any legitimate use for this? We should try to cut out bad preferences where we can. Ditto. I glanced at this bug earlier and forgot to commit. Excessive customizing is a bad work around for poor UI, we should reconsider its entire existence. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #6 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-07-14 18:53:55 UTC --- Setting removed entirely in r69337. I've set the 1.16-wmf4 tag so someone can sync it and fix this bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #7 from xenocidic xenow...@gmail.com 2010-07-14 19:17:54 UTC --- I suppose a legitimate use would be someone who is exceeding gnomish, but also judiciously unchecks the box when making a non-minor edit. I have no strong opinion on whether it should be killed altogether or just hidden on en.wiki. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #8 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2010-07-14 19:59:44 UTC --- You could do it with a JavaScript hack pretty easily. Hitting Alt-I (or Alt-Shift-I or whatever) before you save is pretty easy too, especially if you use Alt-S to save. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 duplicate...@googlemail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||shell CC||duplicate...@googlemail.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 xenocidic xenow...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Normal |High URL||http://en.wikipedia.org/wik ||i/Help_talk:Minor_edit#Shou ||ld_we_remove_the_Preference ||_setting_to_.22Mark_all_edi ||ts_minor_by_default.22.3F -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 xenocidic xenow...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added URL|http://en.wikipedia.org/wik |http://en.wikipedia.org/wik |i/Help_talk:Minor_edit#Shou |i/Help_talk:Minor_edit#Shou |ld_we_remove_the_Preference |ld_we_remove_the_Preference |_setting_to_.22Mark_all_edi |_setting_to_Mark_all_edits |ts_minor_by_default.22.3F |_minor_by_default_? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 xenocidic xenow...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added URL|http://en.wikipedia.org/wik |http://en.wikipedia.org/wik |i/Help_talk:Minor_edit#Shou |i/Help_talk:Minor_edit#Shou |ld_we_remove_the_Preference |ld_we_remove_the_Preference |_setting_to_Mark_all_edits |_setting_to_.22Mark_all_edi |_minor_by_default_?|ts_minor_by_default.22_.3F -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #1 from Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com 2010-07-08 20:37:46 UTC --- Can do this by setting $wgHiddenPrefs. Will also need to run the maintenance script to turn it off for people who have it on already. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #2 from Ed Fitzgerald edfitzger...@aol.com 2010-07-09 02:07:40 UTC --- This is an excellent idea. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 24313] Please remove the Preference setting to Mark all edits minor by default from en.wiki
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 --- Comment #3 from Ed Fitzgerald edfitzger...@aol.com 2010-07-09 02:08:01 UTC --- This is an excellent idea. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
