[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2014-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26525

Nemo  changed:

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--- Comment #19 from Nemo  ---
(In reply to Bawolff (Brian Wolff) from comment #18)
> So the edit tabs have changed (Now with a "View on commons" tab), we should
> re-evaluate if there are still usability issues here.
> 
> Amir: Do you still think its confusing?

There is no longer an "edit" button or shortcut even.
https://kr.wikiquote.org/wiki/File:Commons-logo.svg
If that was done in core, I think it's enough to call this FIXED or WORKSFORME.

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2014-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26525

Bawolff (Brian Wolff)  changed:

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--- Comment #18 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff)  ---
So the edit tabs have changed (Now with a "View on commons" tab), we should
re-evaluate if there are still usability issues here.

Amir: Do you still think its confusing?

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2013-12-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26525

This, that and the other  changed:

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--- Comment #17 from This, that and the other  ---
While not precisely what this bug is about, you may be interested in Gerrit
change 104182, which adds an additional [View on Wikimedia Commons] view tab to
foreign files.

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2013-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Michelle Lee Kosik  changed:

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26525

--- Comment #16 from Krinkle  2011-01-06 03:18:30 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #15)
> I was thinking via a red link 

Pagelinks to files ([[:File:Example.svg]]) are not red when there is no local
page. And thus dont point to ?action=edit&redlink=1 

> or manually by constructing a url with
> ?action=edit. Presumably only advanced users would want to create such pages,
> so the interface doesn't have to be as obvious (imho).
I think think could be an acceptable solution :)

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26525

--- Comment #15 from Bawolff  2011-01-05 17:47:56 UTC ---
I was thinking via a red link or manually by constructing a url with
?action=edit. Presumably only advanced users would want to create such pages,
so the interface doesn't have to be as obvious (imho).

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26525

--- Comment #14 from Krinkle  2011-01-05 14:13:07 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> (In reply to comment #12)
> [..]
> > 2) If a wiki has a local page also with information (for example the 
> > "badimage"
> > and "featured image" templates on en.wikipedia even for images that are 
> > hosted
> > on Commons)
> [...]
> > An Edit tab in the main navigation could be handy in cases, but what about 
> > case
> > 2) above ?
> 
> I think the edit link should only link to commons if the local page does not
> exist. If the local page exists, then the edit link should be to the local 
> one.

Then how would one create a "case 2" page on en.wikipedia without a Create tab
?

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Bawolff  2011-01-05 11:56:13 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #12)
[..]
> 2) If a wiki has a local page also with information (for example the 
> "badimage"
> and "featured image" templates on en.wikipedia even for images that are hosted
> on Commons)
[...]
> An Edit tab in the main navigation could be handy in cases, but what about 
> case
> 2) above ?

I think the edit link should only link to commons if the local page does not
exist. If the local page exists, then the edit link should be to the local one.

To address 3 (from the edit link point of view. I strongly feel we should still
keep people on the local wiki for the page view of the image), we could do
something like make the link have the editintro=from_foreign_wiki parameter, so
commons could have a note about you're not at home anymore.

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26525

--- Comment #12 from Krinkle  2011-01-03 19:16:38 UTC ---
There are plenty of reasons to to link the image directly to Commons:
1) If I have a private wiki and use InstantCommons, my visitors should see the
description page in our language without having to go to Commons.
2) If a wiki has a local page also with information (for example the "badimage"
and "featured image" templates on en.wikipedia even for images that are hosted
on Commons)
3) Too many users create content on Commons that doens't belong there already
(ie. writing news articles for Wikinews or encyclopedic content meant for
Wikipedia). Although there are other causes and parts to this particular
problem, taking users to it without them knowing (aside from a different logo
and some minor details) is a bade idea imho.

Clicking [edit] in the headings already takes the user directly to Commons.

An Edit tab in the main navigation could be handy in cases, but what about case
2) above ?

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26525

--- Comment #11 from Amir E. Aharoni  2011-01-03 
18:44:51 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> > To go back to the article people use the browser's back button, not search.
> 
> I suspect that statement is as true as the one saying that to visit a given
> domain you don't need to perform a google search.

*I* got online before Google, and i still have the old-fashioned habit of
typing URLs. But i know many people who only know one URL - www.google.com. But
they do use the back button.

But hey, maybe i am wrong. Any usability specialists or testers around here?..

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Platonides  2011-01-03 18:31:03 UTC 
---
> To go back to the article people use the browser's back button, not search.

I suspect that statement is as true as the one saying that to visit a given
domain you don't need to perform a google search.

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Amir E. Aharoni  2011-01-03 
17:45:22 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> They should still be able to go back to the previous article using search, or
> the sidebar...

To go back to the article people use the browser's back button, not search.

And i don't see how it is important to keep that pointless virtual page just
for the sidebar.

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26525

--- Comment #8 from Platonides  2011-01-03 17:42:14 UTC 
---
They should still be able to go back to the previous article using search, or
the sidebar...

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Kozuch  2011-01-02 15:05:18 UTC ---
I see nothing bad in taking users out of their home wiki. What is your point
for not doing that??? For instance we loose Commons categories on home
wikies...

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26525

Niklas Laxström  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Niklas Laxström  2011-01-02 
11:20:05 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> What's so bad about it, actually? Commons is Wikimedia's image repository and
> the global account makes the "home wiki" concept transparent.

Only in WMF, and not there always either.

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26525

--- Comment #5 from Amir E. Aharoni  2011-01-02 
10:59:24 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> Changing summary. We don't want to take the users out of their wiki on viewing
> a image page.

What's so bad about it, actually? Commons is Wikimedia's image repository and
the global account makes the "home wiki" concept transparent.

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[Bug 26525] A commons image should have an edit tab going directly to the Commons page

2011-01-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Platonides  changed:

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Summary|Clicking a commons image|A commons image should have
   |should immediately open the |an edit tab going directly
   |Commons page|to the Commons page

--- Comment #4 from Platonides  2011-01-01 22:31:51 UTC 
---
Changing summary. We don't want to take the users out of their wiki on viewing
a image page.

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