[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 duplicate...@googlemail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED CC||duplicate...@googlemail.com Resolution||FIXED --- Comment #10 from duplicate...@googlemail.com 2012-11-11 11:34:54 UTC --- This bug is fixed and already released, please open a new bug, when a global is needed to disable this feature. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Component|Interface |Page editing AssignedTo|jp.po...@gmail.com |wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. ||org -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||42008 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 Doug wikipediad...@googlemail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||35925 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 --- Comment #9 from Doug wikipediad...@googlemail.com 2012-04-09 14:22:28 UTC --- I disagree. What project wants this? Comment 3 mentions enwiki but I don't even understand why they would want this and would appreciate a link to the discussion on enwiki where they decided this. Certainly redirects and maybe dabs are minor as are the creation of new user subpages, at the very least. There was never any reason to make this change. The correct change as noted by Nemo_bis, was to uncheck the box by default and possibly remove the option to change this to checked by default, not remove the box from new pages altogether. Nobody ever really asked for that change; two alternatives were presented and one was simply implemented without comment as to why that was perceived as the better alternative. Additionally, the original problem was characterized as being for making a New Section not creating a page, a new section to an already existing page is actually less likely to be minor than a new page is. This should be reverted unless there is a wiki that thinks it actually needs it to be turned on - that is that they never have minor page creations even for redirects - unless you're a bot, bots can still create new pages as minor. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 --- Comment #8 from Fabrice Laussy fabrice.lau...@gmail.com 2012-03-17 12:25:26 UTC --- Yes, a per-site basis would be the best option. I understand that on certain wikis, the creation of a new page should never be regarded as minor but on others this could even be the general rule. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 Fabrice Laussy fabrice.lau...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fabrice.lau...@gmail.com --- Comment #6 from Fabrice Laussy fabrice.lau...@gmail.com 2012-03-16 18:51:30 UTC --- This is also bad for me, I use minor edits to prevent announcement of important changes on my wiki: http://laussy.org/wiki/Blog:Notes/Mediawiki_Extension_News Now with 1.18 and this new feature, an essentially empty page such as: http://laussy.org/wiki/Blog:Notes/HTML_5_drag_and_drop_interaction_with_clipbard is trumpeted in my http://laussy.org/wiki/News. I wish there is the option to mark as minor a newly created page. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||m...@everybody.org --- Comment #7 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2012-03-16 19:51:51 UTC --- Since this has been deployed for a while, I don't think I would want to just revert it. A possible solution would be to add another global and check that with the isNew() check. This would allow sites to set this on a per-site basis. enwiki could have a different policy than zhwiki then. Thoughts? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 Doug wikipediad...@googlemail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||wikipediad...@googlemail.co ||m --- Comment #5 from Doug wikipediad...@googlemail.com 2011-11-24 21:20:44 UTC --- This was a very bad idea and I noticed it shortly after it was implemented but didn't know the cause. On Wikisources this is very undesirable. Now it is impossible to create a new page from OCR in the pagespace and mark it as minor, unless it's done by a bot. Creation of a page (as in a pagespace page) is almost always minor. On many projects too, the creation of redirects is minor. The fix of course also prevents this on non-WMF instances of mediawiki. This should be reverted. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|28425 | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||patch, reviewed CC||p858sn...@gmail.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 --- Comment #4 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2011-10-28 01:52:10 UTC --- I also dislike this change... I edit several wikis where new pages can be minor edits and should be marked as such. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||28425 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|29876 | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 uv.w...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Depends on||31567 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||31567 Depends on|31567 | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||29876 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 27860] Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27860 Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED CC||federicol...@tiscali.it Resolution|FIXED | Summary|Minor edit after clicking |Do not mark edits as minor |'new section' tab |by default on new section ||or new page creation --- Comment #3 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2011-10-05 20:35:14 UTC --- This just introduces new problems. There's no reason why users should be forced to mark such edits as not minor; the definition of minor edit varies among wikis etc. Comment 0 introduces the problem as caused by the Mark all edits minor by default; the solution is therefore Do not mark edits as minor by default on new section or new page creation, because that can be indeed be a not-intended behaviour for newbies who don't understand the feature. Bug 5754 had already been marked as invalid, and the change should be reverted. Also, it's been noticed on #wikimedia-tech that this is not clearly noted in the changelog. By the way, this seems to be perceived as a problem only by en.wiki, and bug 24313 has been fixed after this was submitted. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l