[Bug 32545] MediaWiki should support time in WikiText
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32545 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||i18n CC||federicol...@tiscali.it -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 32545] MediaWiki should support time in WikiText
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32545 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Unprioritized |Low Version|unspecified |1.21-git Blocks||19719 --- Comment #8 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- (In reply to comment #7) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4251 Patch was merged in November 2012. As written in comment 6, Still need formatting code, parser function, etc... of course. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 32545] MediaWiki should support time in WikiText
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32545 Helder mybugs.m...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia. ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=19992 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 32545] MediaWiki should support time in WikiText
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32545 Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|19992 | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 32545] MediaWiki should support time in WikiText
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32545 --- Comment #7 from Daniel Friesen mediawiki-b...@nadir-seen-fire.com 2012-04-04 07:03:07 UTC --- Change was backed out of svn for the git migration, new gerrit changeset: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#change,4251 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 32545] MediaWiki should support time in WikiText
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32545 --- Comment #6 from Daniel Friesen mediawiki-b...@nadir-seen-fire.com 2012-02-20 04:12:26 UTC --- Note that I added support for data, time, meta, and link (missing elements of Microdata) in WikiText in r111891. Still need formatting code, parser function, etc... of course. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 32545] MediaWiki should support time in WikiText
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32545 --- Comment #2 from Daniel Friesen mediawiki-b...@nadir-seen-fire.com 2012-02-19 02:05:57 UTC --- Rather than a class maybe we should go for a data- param with some sort of format specifier. I don't doubt that people are going to be asking for 3 minutes ago style timestamps as well as those formatted into a user's preferred time. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 32545] MediaWiki should support time in WikiText
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32545 --- Comment #3 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2012-02-19 02:14:34 UTC --- (In reply to comment #2) Rather than a class maybe we should go for a data- param with some sort of format specifier. I don't doubt that people are going to be asking for 3 minutes ago style timestamps as well as those formatted into a user's preferred time. As for the format specifier, Just tell users to use the [[ISO 8601]] standard when entering time, What better solution than a standard? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 32545] MediaWiki should support time in WikiText
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32545 --- Comment #4 from Daniel Friesen mediawiki-b...@nadir-seen-fire.com 2012-02-19 03:03:47 UTC --- (In reply to comment #3) (In reply to comment #2) Rather than a class maybe we should go for a data- param with some sort of format specifier. I don't doubt that people are going to be asking for 3 minutes ago style timestamps as well as those formatted into a user's preferred time. As for the format specifier, Just tell users to use the [[ISO 8601]] standard when entering time, What better solution than a standard? Not input format, output format. As in what format of time js should insert into the element. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 32545] MediaWiki should support time in WikiText
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32545 --- Comment #5 from Daniel Friesen mediawiki-b...@nadir-seen-fire.com 2012-02-19 03:28:13 UTC --- For example protect-expiring(-local), instead of expires $1 (UTC) / expires $1 could be something like: expires time data-format=relative datetime=$4$1 (UTC)/time Which will end up with a js replacement ending up with something like expires time data-format=relative datetime=2012-0-12T03:03:47Zin 5 minutes/time. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 32545] MediaWiki should support time in WikiText
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32545 Daniel Friesen mediawiki-b...@nadir-seen-fire.com changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||19992 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 32545] MediaWiki should support time in WikiText
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32545
--- Comment #1 from Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org 2011-11-22 01:34:03 UTC
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Current w3c draft HTML 5 spec for time:
http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/text-level-semantics.html#the-time-element
A few things to consider in context of bug 19992 (using this to do localized
time/datestamps using browser's client-side knowledge of user's timezone):
* if a 'datetime' attribute is present with the normalized timestamp, it's used
as the date and/or time value -- thus the text contents may be freely formatted
(or re-formatted)
* there's no standard for replacing visible times, so we'd probably want to use
a class to mark localizable items
* the valueAsContent property doesn't distinguish between 'date only' and
'midnight UTC on that date', nor between 'time specified to the second at :00'
and 'time specified to the minute'; could need to check the format or something
to determine partial replacements
* note that applying timezone transformations to a UTC-midnight date timestamp
may result in jumping off by a day depending on your local timezone -- probably
not usually what's wanted.
* time will be theoretically relevant as metadata on things that you would
probably not actually want to display localized in a user's timezone, for
instance at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK#Assassination:
President Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas, at 12:30 pm [[Central
Standard Time]] on November 22, 1963, ...
this is relevant metadata and might be marked up something like:
President Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas, at time
datetime='1963-11-22T12:30-06:00'12:30 pm [[Central Standard Time]] on
November 22, 1963/time, ...
meanwhile in UI and project coordination we're more likely to want to make them
localizable:
The IRC meeting will start at time datetime='2011-11-25T12:00Z'12:00 UTC on
November 25/time
... but how will the system know we want to convert this one, and not the other
one? Need a class? What about the contents? Would we lose that nice custom
formatting there? Would we say 'too bad' and actually mark it up a little
differently?
One possibility might be to have a wrapper parser function or template:
The IRC meeting will start at {{#showtime:2011-11-25T12:00Z}}
which might render to HTML:
The IRC meeting will start at time class='mw-showtime'
datetime='2011-11-25T12:00Z'2011-11-25 12:00 UTC/time
when then gets replacements done via JS into local time:
The IRC meeting will start at time class='mw-showtime'
datetime='2011-11-25T12:00Z'2011-11-25 04:00 PST/time
Code could emit the HTML w/ class markers directly when not going through
wikitext...
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