[Bug 36606] New Pages Feed - Orphan label is displayed for pages that have links

2012-08-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36606

Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||WONTFIX

--- Comment #4 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org 2012-08-13 17:27:38 
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I'm afraid we don't have any realistic solution for this bug other than
decreasing the data cache time (which we'll probably do eventually once we know
that nothing is going to explode). In the meantime, I think having the orphan
label is useful for judging the likelihood that an article is needed.

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[Bug 36606] New Pages Feed - Orphan label is displayed for pages that have links

2012-07-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36606

--- Comment #3 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org 2012-07-24 22:04:09 
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The purpose of the orphan label isn't really to indicate a problem with the
article itself, rather it lets the reviewer know that there is a high
probability that the article is not on a notable subject (as none of the 4
million other articles on Wikipedia have tried to link to that topic). If you
look at the NewPagesFeed on en.wiki, you'll see that only about 1 in every 4 or
5 new articles is an orphan.

Making this information completely accurate, however, is difficult, as you
would have to constantly monitor every edit to all 4 million articles to see if
any of them had added a link to any new articles. This would be an extra
quarter million queries per day with little benefit. The way it's working
currently is to look for incoming links every time the new article is saved and
to update the metadata then if necessary. This is probably good enough for most
purposes, but won't always be up to date.

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[Bug 36606] New Pages Feed - Orphan label is displayed for pages that have links

2012-05-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36606

Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|High|Normal

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[Bug 36606] New Pages Feed - Orphan label is displayed for pages that have links

2012-05-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36606

--- Comment #1 from bs...@wikimedia.org 2012-05-08 18:42:21 UTC ---
If an article X is not referenced in any other wiki articles, then it's
considered to be an Orphan article, Adding link to the body of article X
won't remove the 'Orphan' status, I think this is how we define Orphan:
incoming links other than outgoing links

To get up-to-date accurate data, we would need to compile all the articles
referenced in an article during a save. In this case, we would need to compile
all the articles referenced in Rue_(The_Hunger_Games), this is bad if there are
thousands of articles referenced in here.

I am also wondering if 'Orphan' is useful here, new articles would mostly
likely be 'Orphan' since no one would really reference them,

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[Bug 36606] New Pages Feed - Orphan label is displayed for pages that have links

2012-05-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36606

--- Comment #2 from Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org 2012-05-08 20:58:45 
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Thanks, Benny, you make a good point that most articles will be orphaned by
default, at least initially (unless they were created as a result of clicking
on a red link). 

Note that I was able to confirm on prototype and testing that if I add a link
in article X to to article Y, both article X and Y remain labeled as orphans.
You are correct that article X should remain an orphan, but I would have
expected article Y to lose its orphan label. As of yesterday, this was not
happening.

If this is really hard to do, we should probably postpone this feature -- and
remove the word 'orphan' from the user interface until we can properly back it
up.

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[Bug 36606] New Pages Feed - Orphan label is displayed for pages that have links

2012-05-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36606

Fabrice Florin fflo...@wikimedia.org changed:

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   Priority|Unprioritized   |High
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   Severity|normal  |major

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