[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 Trijnstel trijns...@hotmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||41492 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 Marcin Cieślak marcin.cies...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #20 from Will H william.wiki.ad...@gmail.com 2012-06-15 14:31:51 UTC --- MZMcBride is clearly referring to the fact that if WilliamH got IPs for WilliamH, and then the next logged action is WilliamH got edits from 127.0.0.1, it is rather obvious that 127.0.0.1 is my IP address, and that remains in the log indefinitely. Still, the link in its suggested form in this bug file still only links to instances of the username and the username along having been checked, for purposes that have already been described. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #21 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2012-06-15 14:55:50 UTC --- (In reply to comment #20) MZMcBride is clearly referring to the fact that if WilliamH got IPs for WilliamH, and then the next logged action is WilliamH got edits from 127.0.0.1, it is rather obvious that 127.0.0.1 is my IP address, and that remains in the log indefinitely. I've filed this as bug 37626. I consider it a blocker to implementing this bug, but I won't force the issue. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex] ialex.w...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||aschulz4...@gmail.com, ||wikimedia.b...@snowolf.eu Component|General/Unknown |CheckUser Product|MediaWiki |MediaWiki extensions -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex] ialex.w...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|trivial |enhancement -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||shellpolicy Priority|Unprioritized |Low Status|UNCONFIRMED |ASSIGNED CC||dereck...@espace-win.org AssignedTo|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |dereck...@espace-win.org |org | Ever Confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #3 from Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org 2012-06-14 11:04:54 UTC --- Taking this bug. Setting importance to low (the bug merits any attention, without having severity priority). Adding shellpolicy keyword. We discussed the issue on IRC, Will H is going to ask on the checkuser mailing list an advice, and will summarize here the reply. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 AGK wiki...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||wiki...@gmail.com --- Comment #4 from AGK wiki...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 11:44:22 UTC --- I am a checkuser on the English Wikipedia. I too would welcome this improvement. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||b...@mzmcbride.com --- Comment #5 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2012-06-14 11:52:31 UTC --- How long are these logs being referenced? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #6 from Will H william.wiki.ad...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 12:02:14 UTC --- Could you clarify, MZMcBride? Not quite clear what you mean. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 Neil Babbage n...@thebabbages.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||n...@thebabbages.com --- Comment #7 from Neil Babbage n...@thebabbages.com 2012-06-14 12:16:45 UTC --- Yes please (I'm QuiteUnusual, a CU on en.wikibooks) - would be beneficial. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 Marcin Cieślak marcin.cies...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||marcin.cies...@gmail.com AssignedTo|dereck...@espace-win.org|marcin.cies...@gmail.com --- Comment #8 from Marcin Cieślak marcin.cies...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 14:05:52 UTC --- I think I have implemented it. Added a label recent user checks so you have now: User Test5 (talk | block | block log | uploads | logs | deleted user contributions | user rights management | check user IP addresses | recent user checks) it's working now on my test wiki -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #9 from Will H william.wiki.ad...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 14:11:36 UTC --- Yep, it is indeed. WH. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #10 from Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org 2012-06-14 14:28:55 UTC --- marcin.cies...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 14:05:52 UTC CC marcin.cies...@gmail.com Assignee dereck...@espace-win.orgmarcin.cies...@gmail.com Dear Marcin Cieślak, The bug tracker assignee field means I'm working on this feature. When you remove another person to put your name instead, it's like you enter in a room, you remove the seat under someone, push this person aside, then site back. The correct behavior when a bug is assigned to someone is: (i) check with the assignee if he's still working on the bug (Taking this bug. at 11:04 UTC would probably means yes) (ii) if really you want to take over an issue, to avoid to duplicate the work and play a race instead, you can politely ask to the current assignee where he's on the bug resolution, and organize the relay if needed (iii) alternatively, the community will frown a little less if offer a patch to show your work That will avoid what you're doing currently: telling someone drop your code to the trash bin, I've mne instead! I think with these tips, you will contribute to a nicer development community. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #11 from Marcin Cieślak marcin.cies...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 15:37:02 UTC --- I am really really sorry for jumping in and changing the assignee field. I did that after I tested the bug (big thanks to the original submitter!) Here's the (trivial) patch: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11294/ I should have posted this instead of playing with bug's metadata. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 Félix M. (elfix) felo...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||felo...@gmail.com --- Comment #12 from Félix M. (elfix) felo...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 17:13:20 UTC --- (In reply to comment #0) It would be welcomed to update the list of links concerning the target user which one sees via Special:Contributions, that are (for me, as an en.wiki admin/crat/cu/os): (talk | block | block log | uploads | logs | deleted user contributions | user rights management | rename user | oversighted contribs | filter log | check user IP addresses) I would like to see the addition of a link to Special:CheckUserLog, showing the given user as the target in the CU logs snip I think there are already too many links in the Special:Contributions list header. It would be better to have such records showing up directly on the footer of Special:CheckUser/Username, just like Special:Undelete or Special:BlockIP. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #13 from Marcin Cieślak marcin.cies...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 18:02:27 UTC --- I agree, but that should be another bug (Redesign Special:Contributions links). Putting this under Special:CheckUser misses the point as the whole point of this feature (to me) is to allow to quickly go into Special:CheckUser (and now Special:CheckUserLog as well) without having to re-type/paste the username. There is an interesting proposal to fix this with the additional special page: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22516 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #14 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2012-06-14 21:32:09 UTC --- (In reply to comment #6) Could you clarify, MZMcBride? Not quite clear what you mean. Thanks. Sorry, I was asking how often CheckUsers look at the CheckUser log for a particular user. This relates to how important it is to further clutter up the user interface and it also relates to whether the use of the log in this way is appropriate. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #15 from Marcin Cieślak marcin.cies...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 22:07:00 UTC --- Will speak for myself only (on plwiki). If there is a request for checkuser check from members of our community (whether on IRC, village pump or one of the mailing lists) I *always* check the log file first before checking target users' IP addresses or usernames. I do this to find out if another plwiki CU has already started to deal with this problem - if so, my check might be redundant. This way I intend to look *less* at the *actual* CU data (IP addresses vs usernames). Checking the log first is less evil in terms of invading someone privacy (in my opinion). So actually I my workflow looks like this: 1. Special:Contributions 2. Special:CheckUserLog 3. (optionally) Special:CheckUser -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #16 from AGK wiki...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 22:25:21 UTC --- (In reply to comment #14) (In reply to comment #6) Could you clarify, MZMcBride? Not quite clear what you mean. Thanks. Sorry, I was asking how often CheckUsers look at the CheckUser log for a particular user. This relates to how important it is to further clutter up the user interface and it also relates to whether the use of the log in this way is appropriate. Although it would vary from check to check, the log is used often enough. I would say I consult it in about one in six checks, though that is a *very* rough estimate. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #17 from Will H william.wiki.ad...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 22:41:40 UTC --- Yes, something like that. It is an ideal way of checking to see if another CU is working on it and determining any other factors relating to its progress or history. Note that we still have a link to oversighted contributions in those links. Not that I am necessarily advocating for its removal, but if we're talking about redundant clutter, what's the point of linking to a deprecated extension which hasn't been used for 18 months? MZMcBride, perhaaps you might clarify, but I'm not quite sure what you mean by whether the use of the log in this way is appropriate, as its use as discussed here in determining the date and nature of checks made is the inherent purpose for which it was designed. WH. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #18 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2012-06-15 01:22:28 UTC --- (In reply to comment #17) MZMcBride, perhaps you might clarify, but I'm not quite sure what you mean by whether the use of the log in this way is appropriate, as its use as discussed here in determining the date and nature of checks made is the inherent purpose for which it was designed. There's an open question about the CheckUser log. It currently keeps the full log indefinitely, but the log contains a large amount of private information. Whether keeping this log around indefinitely is a violation of particular privacy policies (e.g., the Wikimedia Foundation's) is an ongoing discussion. This open question is largely outside the scope of this bug, except that by adding an interface link, you're institutionalizing the questionable practice of keeping and referencing these logs indefinitely, in my opinion. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 Hunyady Márton hunya...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||hunya...@gmail.com --- Comment #19 from Hunyady Márton hunya...@gmail.com 2012-06-15 04:20:49 UTC --- This log only contains the fact of the IP check, not the result of the check, so I think it doesn't contain private information if you use it correctly (you set the summary before the check), especially if you filter the log to a certain person (than you don't see the IP addresses checked immediately after the check of the user). E.g: Date, User:Hunyadym asked for the IP addresses of User:Iamthevandal (per CU request page, possible abuse of multiple accounts) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 Avi avi.w...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||avi.w...@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Avi avi.w...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 03:37:48 UTC --- As another EnWiki admin/crat/cu/os, I would also appreciate the enhancement that Will suggests. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 37573] Addition of CU logs to list of user links in Special:Contributions
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37573 --- Comment #2 from Will H william.wiki.ad...@gmail.com 2012-06-14 05:31:03 UTC --- I discussed this bug in the admins channel, and User:Ponyo, another en.wiki checkuser (albeit without a bugzilla account), would welcome this simple amendment. WH. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
