[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia. ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=48927 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||testme Whiteboard||aklapper-moreinfo --- Comment #14 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- This needs retesting now that the infrastructure has changed a lot (move to a new datacenter in January). Mathias: Is this still a problem? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 --- Comment #15 from Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com --- I never experienced the problem myself, I merely opened a bug report after a friend of mine blogged about the issue (see comment #1) I am going to ask him. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 Bawolff (Brian Wolff) bawolff...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #16 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) bawolff...@gmail.com --- By the way, the thing I was talking about earlier on got reverted so is no longer an issue - see bug 43341. Im almost certain that was causing the issue your friend was seeing so im going to close this. If your friend still experiances any issues please reopen this bug -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia. ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=41130 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
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[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia. ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=43341 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 --- Comment #13 from Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #12) (In reply to comment #11) Hmm, there's apparently a live hack 1.21wmf6 commenting out Been there since r96834 (1.17 - sept 12 2011) So i guess not responsible for any new issues. Perhaps nobody ever noticed that all our redirects (and template updates, image updates - I'm assuming LinksUpdate jobs don't send squid purge) are really outdated for anon users. After all anons rarely represent our technical userbase. Given the fact that the report of caching issues came in july 2012 and this bug received little attention since then, the timeline still holds. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 Dirk Beetstra beetstra.w...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||beetstra.w...@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Unprioritized |High CC||aschulz4...@gmail.com Whiteboard|aklapper-moreinfo | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 --- Comment #12 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) bawolff...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #11) Hmm, there's apparently a live hack 1.21wmf6 commenting out Been there since r96834 (1.17 - sept 12 2011) So i guess not responsible for any new issues. Perhaps nobody ever noticed that all our redirects (and template updates, image updates - I'm assuming LinksUpdate jobs don't send squid purge) are really outdated for anon users. After all anons rarely represent our technical userbase. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 --- Comment #10 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) bawolff...@gmail.com --- Some more testing: To pick a random redirect - I used [[WP:VPT]] (Since it gets edited a lot). Downloading from N. America (not logged in obviously) at ~16:30 utc: *I get a page last editing (according to the html comment) on 12 December 2012 at 05:54. That's 51 revisions that each should have sent purges to that redirect, but did not. Downloading from Europe (using the 91.198.174.225 en.wikipedia.org in /etc/hosts trick to pretend I live in europe) things get a lot worse: *The page I get has a last edited timestamp of 3 December 2012 at 21:30. That's 460 revisions which each should have triggered a purge, but none did. - Additionally there's been several reports of images not being purged by squid cache. This is more noticeable since logged in users get the squid version (but in a way less, because it is less common to do image reuploads, which is what is effected). [This is mostly bug 41130] *?action=purge the image description page does not appear to be purging the squid cache of thumbnails. It should be. *On re-upload, the old thumbnail is not being purged. There have been several reports of this in several places. For example: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pumpoldid=84940049#Problem_with_new_version_of_image as while as a recent message to wikitech-l about the full sized version of [[bcl:file:Wiki.png]] not being purged. (Of interest, both the commons image and the wikitech-l thread image only seem to be not purged from North America. Europe squids are apparently fine. Which is odd as I would expect the opposite) Also discussion on 'pedia https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29oldid=527864677#No_purging_on_newer_version_of_images -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879
--- Comment #11 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) bawolff...@gmail.com ---
Hmm, there's apparently a live hack 1.21wmf6 commenting out
/*
if ( $wgUseSquid ) {
$u = SquidUpdate::newFromTitles( $titleArray );
$u-doUpdate();
} */
in job/jobs/HTMLCacheUpdateJob.php. I'm not sure why it would be commented out,
but that would prevent squids being purged for redirects and pages that have
templates being updated afaik.
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[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status Whiteboard||aklapper-moreinfo --- Comment #7 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org 2012-11-17 15:18:34 UTC --- Mathias / wikizilla: Could you please provide the exact URL of an affected page? (Including the % encodings as used). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 --- Comment #8 from Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com 2012-11-17 15:37:26 UTC --- No. Torsten Kleinz maybe. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 --- Comment #9 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com 2012-11-17 20:23:22 UTC --- Someone on Wikipedia (on WP:VPT) was just complaining about the squid cache of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rule being outdated (Note that that is a redirect to Golden_Rule). Last week (It is fixed now) I noticed that WP:SIGNPOST cache was outdated (That is the redirect [[WP:SIGNPOST]] not the real [[Wikipedia:The Signpost]]. Perhaps there is a problem with purging squid cache of redirect pages. [There was a bug about a year ago about redirects not being squid purged that was never really tracked down, and didn't appear locally - bug 29552 ] -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 --- Comment #6 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com 2012-08-02 13:26:37 UTC --- Just to easily verify if the theory in comment 3 is correct or not, what is the precise url of the page in question. (Including the % encodings as used). Personally I think this might just be a case of a cache purge packet got lost somewhere along the way (assuming that this is a one-off event) (In reply to comment #5) Bawolff: Yes, purged by the ?action=purge-command. Can someone look into the logs, what exactly happened with the specific article on the caching servers in Amsterdam? de:Europäischer Tag des Fahrrades Honestly I somewhat doubt such log files exist (they would be huge). In any case I personally (being a random) don't have access, one would have to ask the ops folks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 --- Comment #1 from Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net 2012-07-31 08:29:03 UTC --- Logged out? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 wikizi...@online.de changed: What|Removed |Added CC||wikizi...@online.de --- Comment #2 from wikizi...@online.de 2012-07-31 08:53:14 UTC --- Logged in I got the most recent version of the article, logged out I got a version that was more than a month old. The article was purged now manually. But it's not a singular occasion, so the reason why the caching failed could be important to find the bigger problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||hart...@videolan.org --- Comment #3 from Derk-Jan Hartman hart...@videolan.org 2012-07-31 13:35:32 UTC --- Sounds like the issue with % encoded url vs. 'utf-8 urls'. Only one of the url types is purged, and depending on your browser type, you could end up at one of the other types. This is bug 27935 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bawolff...@gmail.com --- Comment #4 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com 2012-07-31 19:05:41 UTC --- The article was purged now manually. But it's not a singular occasion, so the reason why the caching failed could be important to find the bigger problem. Purged manually how (?action=purge on the article page?). If hartman's suggestion is correct, that sort of manual purge shouldn't affect things [you could have the old page just fall out of cache at the same time by coincidence though] -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 38879] reports of caching issues
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38879 --- Comment #5 from wikizi...@online.de 2012-07-31 20:08:11 UTC --- Bawolff: Yes, purged by the ?action=purge-command. Can someone look into the logs, what exactly happened with the specific article on the caching servers in Amsterdam? de:Europäischer Tag des Fahrrades -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
