[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-11-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40477

Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||31235

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-11-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40477

Sage Ross rages...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Jeroen De Dauw jeroen_ded...@yahoo.com 2012-10-06 
00:56:24 UTC ---
Well, the updated config was merged two days back. Think we need someone
assigned to getting this deployed to not have it sit here needlessly.

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Jeroen De Dauw jeroen_ded...@yahoo.com 2012-09-28 
11:24:36 UTC ---
Great - thanks for the clarification, I will modify the settings later today or
tomorrow :)

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Jeroen De Dauw jeroen_ded...@yahoo.com 2012-09-28 
18:57:03 UTC ---
Right configuration changes are in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25693/

Sage, can you check I did not miss anything?

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Jeroen De Dauw jeroen_ded...@yahoo.com 2012-09-27 
13:41:10 UTC ---
Sorry, did not get to it yesterday, but had a look now.

The proposed configuration seems to be identical to the current configuration
if the epstaff group is removed. Sage, is that correct?

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Sage Ross rages...@gmail.com 2012-09-27 13:48:40 UTC ---
The epstaff group should be removed, but also, admins have all the rights that
are currently with the epstaff group: creating, editing and deleting any pages,
adding and removing users to roles in specific courses, and adding users to the
other usergroups. The ep-coordinator group should have all these same rights.

There is also some renaming: ep-coordinator, ep-online, ep-campus, and
ep-instructor are the names, so that it's not specific to Wikipedia Ambassador
titles.

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40477

Sage Ross rages...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||shell

--- Comment #12 from Sage Ross rages...@gmail.com 2012-09-27 19:39:41 UTC ---
The RfC has been formally closed now by an uninvolved admin, so we can turn
this on as soon as it's technically ready.

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Jeroen De Dauw jeroen_ded...@yahoo.com 2012-09-26 
10:31:58 UTC ---
Dereckson: I'll try to get to it today.

How are things going at Wolfplex btw? :)

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40477

Sage Ross rages...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|shell   |

--- Comment #8 from Sage Ross rages...@gmail.com 2012-09-26 13:55:54 UTC ---
Thanks Jeroen. Since the person with that last oppose has objected to me
closing the RfC, we're going to have an uninvolved editor do a formal close.
That shouldn't change anything, since the results are pretty straightforward
and from a WMF perspective, we're ready to turn it on and work with the
community from there... the RfC makes it clear that there's not widespread
objection.

But just to be safe, please don't turn it on before the RfC gets a formal close
from someone else. I'll remove 'shell' for the time being. (If that's not the
right procedure, please revert.)

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40477

Bug 40477 depends on bug 40506, which changed state.

Bug 40506 Summary: Review and deploy Education Program extension
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40506

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||DUPLICATE

--- Comment #9 from Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net 2012-09-27 00:59:01 
UTC ---
*** Bug 40506 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40477

Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||shellpolicy
 Status|NEW |UNCONFIRMED
 CC||dereck...@espace-win.org
 Ever Confirmed|1   |0

--- Comment #2 from Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org 2012-09-25 13:18:49 
UTC ---
Hi,

Before to investigate further the matter, I would like a comment explaining why
so few people participated in a 1 month process.

The RfC gets 12 support votes and 3 oppose (one it's for wikiversity, one it
should be on Outreach and a last objection, also found in a support vote
extension design is poor, comments not mitigated in the support votes).

This seems rather low for a large wiki.

Could you explain us why a proposal with so few support is a valid local
consensus?

[ +shellpolicy ]

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40477

Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||40506

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40477

--- Comment #3 from Sage Ross rages...@gmail.com 2012-09-25 13:48:34 UTC ---
The basic answer, I think, is that most people don't have strong feelings one
way or the other. The RfC was listed as an RfC and on the CENT noticeboard for
a month, announced at the technical, policy and proposal village pumps as well
as other relevant places, and noted in a few editions of the Signpost. However,
because it will be largely irrelevant to users who aren't working with or
tracking the work of classes, many people apparently didn't feel like joining
the discussion.

The extension was actually previously enabled for a very short time, but it had
to be turned off and redesigned because of a bug that made it conflict with
mainspace content. To make sure the Wikipedia Education Program was not forcing
it on the community against widespread objection, and to see how editors wanted
it configured in terms of user rights, we decided to run an RfC before turning
it on again.

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40477

Jeroen De Dauw jeroen_ded...@yahoo.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever Confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #4 from Jeroen De Dauw jeroen_ded...@yahoo.com 2012-09-25 
15:59:20 UTC ---
I'd replace turned off and redesigned with turned off and tweaked. There
was no redesign :)

 also found in a support vote extension design is poor, comments not mitigated 
 in the support votes

Is this the objection I replied to on the talk page and got no further answers
from the objecting person?

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Sage Ross rages...@gmail.com 2012-09-25 16:05:33 UTC ---
@Jeroen, tweaked, yes!

And that's indeed the objection you were discussing on the talk page. The
discussion has (in my opinion) some good ideas for possible design adjustments
to make in the future, but it doesn't really affect the basic function of the
extension in the meantime.

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|shellpolicy |shell

--- Comment #6 from Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org 2012-09-25 18:58:32 
UTC ---
I think we have enough clarification to go on.

Jeroen De Dauw, would you prefer to prepare the config change or than I prepare
a draft and ask you a review?

[ -shellpolicy +shell ]

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[Bug 40477] Enable Extension:Education Program on English Wikipedia (with new user rights configuration)

2012-09-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Sage Ross rages...@gmail.com 2012-09-24 15:01:04 UTC ---
See Jeroen De Dauw, the developer of the extension, about the configuration
modifications.

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