[Bug 47029] '幺' => '么' in ZhConversion.php is wrong.

2013-04-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47029

Andre Klapper  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Unprioritized   |Low

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[Bug 47029] '幺' => '么' in ZhConversion.php is wrong.

2013-04-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47029

--- Comment #6 from Liangent  ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> I am talking , zh-hant to zh-hans for '幺' => '么'. I use the 发 in zh-hans to
> zh-hant as example.
> 
> 
>  Currently '幺' means '么' is very rare in traditional Chinese, even zh
> wikipedia
> forbid '幺' => '么' convert. So this word should not convert to '么' in
> mediawiki
> source code.
> 
> 什么 => 什幺 and 什幺 => 什么 should be add for both zh-hant to zh-hans and zh-hans
> to
> zh-hant, instead of the long 幺 not change list.

幺 looks like just a 异体字 = "variant characters" of 么 in zh-hant so it's not
often seen (correct me if I'm wrong). However it's difficult to list all usage
of 么 in Chinese. How would you want to add a rule for the following sentence:
你认识zoglun么? when it's written in zh-hant with 么 written as 幺?

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[Bug 47029] '幺' => '么' in ZhConversion.php is wrong.

2013-04-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47029

--- Comment #5 from zoglun  ---
I am talking , zh-hant to zh-hans for '幺' => '么'. I use the 发 in zh-hans to
zh-hant as example.


 Currently '幺' means '么' is very rare in traditional Chinese, even zh wikipedia
forbid '幺' => '么' convert. So this word should not convert to '么' in mediawiki
source code.

什么 => 什幺 and 什幺 => 什么 should be add for both zh-hant to zh-hans and zh-hans to
zh-hant, instead of the long 幺 not change list.

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[Bug 47029] '幺' => '么' in ZhConversion.php is wrong.

2013-04-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47029

--- Comment #4 from Liangent  ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> I think for an unusual simple to traditional convert, it is better to write
> those few  words out, instead of maintenance a long convert list.
> 
> like:
> 幺 do not convert
> simpphrases.manual:什么 => 什幺
> 
> It is the same solution you guys do with 发. 发 in simple could either means 發
> and 髪 in traditional. It wrote 发 =>發 and then 头发 =>頭髪 in ZhConversion.php
> because people use 發 more than 髪.

Are you talking about zh-hans to zh-hant conversion or the other way?

'幺' => '么' exists in $zh2Hans conversion in ZhConversion.php.

Anyway can you say your sentence which fails with current rules?

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[Bug 47029] '幺' => '么' in ZhConversion.php is wrong.

2013-04-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47029

--- Comment #3 from zoglun  ---
I think for an unusual simple to traditional convert, it is better to write
those few  words out, instead of maintenance a long convert list.

like:
幺 do not convert
simpphrases.manual:什么 => 什幺

It is the same solution you guys do with 发. 发 in simple could either means 發
and 髪 in traditional. It wrote 发 =>發 and then 头发 =>頭髪 in ZhConversion.php
because people use 發 more than 髪.

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[Bug 47029] '幺' => '么' in ZhConversion.php is wrong.

2013-04-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Liangent  changed:

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Version|1.20.3  |1.22-git

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[Bug 47029] '幺' => '么' in ZhConversion.php is wrong.

2013-04-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47029

--- Comment #2 from Liangent  ---
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22%E4%BB%80%E5%B9%BA%22+site%3Atw&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&;

It seems this rule is still needed in some cases ... on Wikipedia we can just
ask editors from Taiwan "don't use '幺' in this way" but situations on different
wikis are different. Also '幺' is much less used than '么' so we keep a list (see
below) of words with '幺' in it where '幺' => '么' conversion is not applied.

Here's the list:

simpphrases.manual:幺厮
simpphrases.manual:幺半群
simpphrases.manual:幺元
simpphrases.manual:幺爹
simpphrases.manual:幺叔
simpphrases.manual:幺舅
simpphrases.manual:幺爸
simpphrases.manual:幺妈
simpphrases.manual:幺姨
simpphrases.manual:幺娘
simpphrases.manual:幺妹
simpphrases.manual:幺小
simpphrases.manual:幺姓
simpphrases.manual:姓幺
simpphrases.manual:幺氏
simpphrases.manual:幺蛾子
simpphrases.manual:幺麽
simpphrases.manual:幺麽小丑
simpphrases.manual:幺凤
simpphrases.manual:幺二三
simpphrases.manual:幺篇
simpphrases.manual:幺谦

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[Bug 47029] '幺' => '么' in ZhConversion.php is wrong.

2013-04-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47029

Sam Reed (reedy)  changed:

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   Severity|normal  |minor

--- Comment #1 from Sam Reed (reedy)  ---
(In reply to comment #0)
> By the way, how can I fix these problem by myself? I mean is it possible for
> me
> to change Mediawiki's git source code?

Yes, you can create an account so you can submit code updates. Start at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access

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