[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-11-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47199

--- Comment #19 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
VictorPorton: Have you fixed your setup creating the issue in comment 16/17?

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-09-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #18 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
VictorPorton: Have you fixed your setup creating the issue in comment 16/17?

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder) martinezn...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|JobQueue|Page editing

--- Comment #13 from Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder) 
martinezn...@gmail.com ---
It's definitively not a Job queue bug.

Apparently, not caused by hebrew text. I've made the same test on my wiki with
the same article text and it didn't happened, even with $wgJobRunRate = 0. In
fact, if there are less than 200 backlinks, it performs the update at that
moment.


Can you enable the debug log file [1] ($wgDebugLogFile) before saving a linked
redlink page, and disabling it after? Post it in a pastebin and share the
link here (be sure to remove private information, like cookies, tokens, as
explained on the manual). Enable also $wgDebugDBTransactions.

Add also the option to display all PHP errors:

error_reporting( -1 );
ini_set( 'display_errors', 1 );

I suspect this may be another instance of uncommitted DB writes error, that
rollbacks the deferred update of cache invalidation.

-

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bawolff (Brian Wolff) bawolff...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #14 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) bawolff...@gmail.com ---
Isn't this kind of a dupe of bug 29585

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from VictorPorton por...@narod.ru ---
Oh, I've just forgotten that I have already reported a similar issue with an
earlier version of MediaWiki.

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from VictorPorton por...@narod.ru ---
First, `$wgDebugDBTransactions = true;` causes my site to show white screen of
death (without any text).

When I set `$wgDebugLogFile = true;` and added a test text to a linked
Hebrew-word page, it became blue immediately after saving, as if there were no
bug.

I've set the LocalSettings.php back.

You've said something about less than 200 backlinks. Maybe the bug is present
only for pages with more than 200 backlinks?

One more error:
http://withoutvowels.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHeretarget=Hebrew%3A%D7%A9%D7%AAnamespace=102
says that there are no backlinks to this page.

But there is at least one page backlink:
http://withoutvowels.org/wiki/Tanakh:Genesis_4:25

Should I create one more bug?

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #17 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) bawolff...@gmail.com ---
(I reply to VictorPorton from comment #16)
 First, `$wgDebugDBTransactions = true;` causes my site to show white screen
 of death (without any text).

Known bug if using mysqli. Fixed in 1.23. However if your getting pure white
page you dont have php error reporting set up right.

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder) 
martinezn...@gmail.com ---
That's really strange.

I've done the same test on a local 1.22 installation, disabling the on-request
job queue ($wgJobRunRate = 0;) and the link becomes blue when reloading the
page.

The key in parser cache remains the same, but the timestamp gets updated when
the link becomes blue.

What cache options do you have? file cache, DB, memcached...?

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from VictorPorton por...@narod.ru ---
LocalSettings.php:

$wgMainCacheType= CACHE_NONE;
$wgMemCachedServers = array();

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder) martinezn...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |UNCONFIRMED
 CC||martinezn...@gmail.com
 Ever confirmed|1   |0

--- Comment #4 from Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder) 
martinezn...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to VictorPorton from comment #0)
 
 but after running this command links which should become blue remained brown.
 
 Please help me to make links to newly created page blue.

Do you mean brown or red? More specifically: Are those brown links, when
you hover the mouse over them, point to an URL with ?action=editredlink=1 on
it, or to a normal page URL?

I normally see brown links when I have enabled the stub threshold option in
preferences, marking links to articles with less than X bytes with that color.

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from VictorPorton por...@narod.ru ---
It seems that yes these brown links are ?action=editredlink=1 (however I've
tested this only with a page which has not been created yet, not with a
recently created new page, as in the bug).

I will investigate and comment further later.

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder) 
martinezn...@gmail.com ---
Also, note that this report was for version 1.20, which is now no longer
supported. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle

You should upgrade at least to 1.21 (which will end its support on May, this
year) or better, to 1.22.

Note that in 1.22 changes were made to the job queue and it's a bit unstable.
You may need to set $wgPhpCli to false in LocalSettings.php if you have
problems with it. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from VictorPorton por...@narod.ru ---
MediaWiki 1.22.5

The site http://withoutvowels.org

I have created page Test with hyperlink [[Test2]]. The link was brown as it
should be. Then I created page Test2 and the link immediately became blue, as
it should be.

But:

I opened http://withoutvowels.org/wiki/Tanakh:Genesis_4:24 and saw the last
Hebrew word (counting from the right to the left) of 4:24 was brown. It linked
to a `?action=editredlink=1` page.

Then I've created test page Hebrew:ושבעה but the link in questionn hasn't
become blue and remained `?action=editredlink=1`.

This is weird. Why does it work for page Test2 and does not work as it should
for Hebrew:ושבעה? Is the issue with cross-namespace links? Is the issue with
write-protected pages? (http://withoutvowels.org/wiki/Tanakh:Genesis_4:24 is
write-protected.)

Anyway it is weird and I want this to be fixed.

Should I play with configuration variables descried in
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue ?

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from VictorPorton por...@narod.ru ---
Hm, maybe it does not work with Hebrew letters in page title?

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder) 
martinezn...@gmail.com ---
I've purged the page [1] (since I have no permission to edit pages) and the red
link became blue.

It's hard to tell what happened here. Do you have shell access? running
showJobs.php [2] will list the pending jobs, and see when it has been executed
(after reloading the page several times), or by running runJobs.php

Also, seeing the generated HTML code of the page, and looking for the line 
!-- Saved in parser cache with key ** and timestamp *** --, to see if
it changes.



[1] http://withoutvowels.org/w/index.php?title=Tanakh:Genesis_4:24action=purge
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ShowJobs.php

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from VictorPorton por...@narod.ru ---
http://withoutvowels.org/wiki/Tanakh:Genesis_4:25
!-- Saved in parser cache with key
withoutvowels:pcache:idhash:10795-0!*!0!*!*!*!* and timestamp 20140413205045
 --
I create http://withoutvowels.org/wiki/Hebrew:%D7%94%D7%A8%D7%92%D7%95 for
testing.
Ctrl+F5 at http://withoutvowels.org/wiki/Tanakh:Genesis_4:25
It remains brown.
!-- Saved in parser cache with key
withoutvowels:pcache:idhash:10795-0!*!0!*!*!*!* and timestamp 20140413205045
 --
(not changed)
$ php ./maintenance/showJobs.php 
0
Ctrl+F5 at http://withoutvowels.org/wiki/Tanakh:Genesis_4:25
$ php ./maintenance/showJobs.php 
0
$ php ./maintenance/runJobs.php 
$ php ./maintenance/showJobs.php 
0
Ctrl+F5 at http://withoutvowels.org/wiki/Tanakh:Genesis_4:25
It remained brown.

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2014-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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VictorPorton por...@narod.ru changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|1.20.x  |1.22.5

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2013-06-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from VictorPorton por...@narod.ru ---
Editing a page with a redlink does not help.

There are no squid, I don't know what is varnish. It is installed on my own
virtual private server and I know that there no levels above Apache.

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2013-06-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Aaron Schulz aschulz4...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Aaron Schulz aschulz4...@gmail.com ---
Does editing a page *with* a redlink help? Also, is there any squid or varnish
or other such caching layer in use?

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2013-04-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

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   Priority|Unprioritized   |Low

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[Bug 47199] Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay

2013-04-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

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Summary|Links become blue after a   |Links to newly created
   |too big delay   |pages become blue only
   ||after a too big delay
 Whiteboard||aklapper-moreinfo

--- Comment #1 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
Hi VictorPorton, 
unfortunately this report is not very useful because it does not describe the
problem well. If you have time and can still reproduce the problem, please read
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug and add a more useful
description to this report.
What does too big delay mean exactly? How long does it take?
Also, this might be a question for
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk - Could ask there and paste
the link here? Thanks!

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